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German state media DW:

German navy chief under fire for Putin, Crimea comments​

Ukraine summoned the German ambassador after Germany's navy chief said Crimea was "lost" and Putin "probably" deserved respect. Berlin distanced itself from the remarks.



Vice-admiral Kay-Achim Schönbach pictured in 2017
Vice-admiral Kay-Achim Schönbach said the West could give Vladimir Putin respect
Germany faced a diplomatic incident on Saturday following comments made by Navy chief Kay-Achim Schönbach on Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Ukraine crisis.
During a visit to India, Schönbach gave a talk at the Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses, where he said Putin "probably" deserved respect.
"What he really wants is respect," the vice admiral said, speaking in English in remarks that were posted on a video on YouTube.
"And, my God, giving someone respect is low cost, even no cost. ... It is easy to give him the respect he really demands — and probably also deserves," Schönbach said, calling Russia an old and important country.
Schönbach said Russia's actions in Ukraine needed to be addressed, but added that "the Crimea Peninsula is gone: It will never come back — this is a fact."
The remarks directly contradicted the official view held by the EU and the US. Washington and its allies say that Moscow's 2014 annexation of the peninsula from Ukraine was unacceptable and must be reversed.



Swedish defense minister: 'We must be prepared for all scenarios' when dealing with Russia​

On Saturday, Ukraine's Foreign Ministry said it has summoned German Ambassador Anka Feldhusen to stress "the categorical unacceptability" of Schönbach's comments.

Schönbach apologizes on Twitter​

The navy chief's comments come as Russia has gathered tens of thousand of troops on Ukraine's borders and many worry that an invasion could be in the works. Russia has denied any planned aggression against Ukraine.
The German government made no official statement, although it distanced itself from Schönbach's comments on Saturday.
"The content and choice of words of the statements in no way correspond to the position of the Federal Ministry of Defense," a German Defense Ministry spokesman told public broadcaster ZDF.
Schönbach must now explain himself to his superior, Inspector General Eberhard Zorn, the ministry said. Additionally, Germany's ruling coalition will discuss the navy chief's statements on Monday, ZDF reported.
For his part, Schönbach issued am apology on his Twitter account. "There is no need to quibble: it was clearly a mistake," he tweeted.

"My defense policy remarks during a talk session at a think tank in India reflected my personal opinion in that moment. They in no way reflect the official position of the defense ministry," he wrote.

Ukraine: comments are 'disappointing'​

The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry called on Germany to reject Schönbach's comments regarding Crimea, saying they undermine the efforts to counter Russian aggression.
"Ukraine is grateful to Germany for the support it has already provided since 2014, as well as for the diplomatic efforts to resolve the Russian-Ukrainian armed conflict. But Germany's current statements are disappointing and run counter to that support and effort," Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said in tweet.


Blinken: 'We will continue to stand with Ukraine'​

"The German partners must stop undermining unity with such words and actions and encouraging (Russian President) Vladimir Putin to launch a new attack on Ukraine," Kuleba added.
Kyiv also highlighted its "deep disappointment" at the German government's position "on the failure to provide defense weapons to Ukraine." The lack of weapons support is another point of contention between the two countries.
On Friday, Germany reportedly went as far as block Estonia from sending its German-made weapons to Ukraine.
Berlin has long argued that it does not support sending weapons to active conflict zones and stressed that such deliveries would hinder negotiations and a peaceful resolution to the crisis.


@aziqbal , When I tried to tell you these dynamics, you didn't believe me.
 
The United States needs to create tensions in Ukraine so that European money can flow back to Wall Street. The EU wants to build its own defence system. Russia wants NATO to guarantee that it will not expand eastward.
 
They might get Russia to be neutral if they:

1. cancel all sanctions on Russia
2. kick Baltics out of NATO
3. guarantee no new additions to NATO from any country that was formerly a part of the Soviet Union
4. pay reparations equal to lost economic value to Russia
5. openly apologize to Russia for the misunderstanding

lol I wouldn't hold my breath for this.
 

German state media DW:

German navy chief under fire for Putin, Crimea comments​

Ukraine summoned the German ambassador after Germany's navy chief said Crimea was "lost" and Putin "probably" deserved respect. Berlin distanced itself from the remarks.



Vice-admiral Kay-Achim Schönbach pictured in 2017
Vice-admiral Kay-Achim Schönbach said the West could give Vladimir Putin respect
Germany faced a diplomatic incident on Saturday following comments made by Navy chief Kay-Achim Schönbach on Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Ukraine crisis.
During a visit to India, Schönbach gave a talk at the Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses, where he said Putin "probably" deserved respect.
"What he really wants is respect," the vice admiral said, speaking in English in remarks that were posted on a video on YouTube.
"And, my God, giving someone respect is low cost, even no cost. ... It is easy to give him the respect he really demands — and probably also deserves," Schönbach said, calling Russia an old and important country.
Schönbach said Russia's actions in Ukraine needed to be addressed, but added that "the Crimea Peninsula is gone: It will never come back — this is a fact."
The remarks directly contradicted the official view held by the EU and the US. Washington and its allies say that Moscow's 2014 annexation of the peninsula from Ukraine was unacceptable and must be reversed.



Swedish defense minister: 'We must be prepared for all scenarios' when dealing with Russia​

On Saturday, Ukraine's Foreign Ministry said it has summoned German Ambassador Anka Feldhusen to stress "the categorical unacceptability" of Schönbach's comments.

Schönbach apologizes on Twitter​

The navy chief's comments come as Russia has gathered tens of thousand of troops on Ukraine's borders and many worry that an invasion could be in the works. Russia has denied any planned aggression against Ukraine.
The German government made no official statement, although it distanced itself from Schönbach's comments on Saturday.
"The content and choice of words of the statements in no way correspond to the position of the Federal Ministry of Defense," a German Defense Ministry spokesman told public broadcaster ZDF.
Schönbach must now explain himself to his superior, Inspector General Eberhard Zorn, the ministry said. Additionally, Germany's ruling coalition will discuss the navy chief's statements on Monday, ZDF reported.
For his part, Schönbach issued am apology on his Twitter account. "There is no need to quibble: it was clearly a mistake," he tweeted.

"My defense policy remarks during a talk session at a think tank in India reflected my personal opinion in that moment. They in no way reflect the official position of the defense ministry," he wrote.

Ukraine: comments are 'disappointing'​

The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry called on Germany to reject Schönbach's comments regarding Crimea, saying they undermine the efforts to counter Russian aggression.
"Ukraine is grateful to Germany for the support it has already provided since 2014, as well as for the diplomatic efforts to resolve the Russian-Ukrainian armed conflict. But Germany's current statements are disappointing and run counter to that support and effort," Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said in tweet.


Blinken: 'We will continue to stand with Ukraine'​

"The German partners must stop undermining unity with such words and actions and encouraging (Russian President) Vladimir Putin to launch a new attack on Ukraine," Kuleba added.
Kyiv also highlighted its "deep disappointment" at the German government's position "on the failure to provide defense weapons to Ukraine." The lack of weapons support is another point of contention between the two countries.
On Friday, Germany reportedly went as far as block Estonia from sending its German-made weapons to Ukraine.
Berlin has long argued that it does not support sending weapons to active conflict zones and stressed that such deliveries would hinder negotiations and a peaceful resolution to the crisis.


@aziqbal , When I tried to tell you these dynamics, you didn't believe me.
2 times got brutally beaten by Russia. And world thinks that Germany will go against Russia? No sir.
 
Why are Poland and Romania part of NATO and members of the EU? Nobody brought them forcly into this union, on the contrary, the Romanian people in particular made extraordinary efforts to join these unions. Today, Russia says that even Bulgaria should leave NATO, or to put it more diplomatically, the entire NATO presence should leave this country. No one asks the opinion of the Bulgarian people? Does anyone question the historical facts that created the conditions for Bulgaria to take these steps?

Why did the Baltic countries want to be a part of the EU and consolidate it with a military alliance? Who forced the Baltic peoples?

Why even independent Sweden now openly supports NATO air operations?

The hegemonic war of the USA and Russia is one side of the coin. Why doesn't anyone want to see the other side?
 
Actually Europe knows America will use Europe to confront Russia whilst staying at a safe distance. Notice no American boots on the ground in Ukraine
 
An interesting aspect of this is the playing to the Indians ego, vis a vi forming a coalition to counter China. As long as a foreign power entices India with a strategy to counter China, they can convince them to follow along.

Coming from a high ranking German military official, this is not an isolated mindset. It wouldn’t surprise me if this now former Admiral becomes an arm dealer to India on behalf of German companies before the end of the year.
 
The United States needs to create tensions in Ukraine so that European money can flow back to Wall Street. The EU wants to build its own defence system. Russia wants NATO to guarantee that it will not expand eastward.

The only next East left is Moscow.
 

German state media DW:

German navy chief under fire for Putin, Crimea comments​

Ukraine summoned the German ambassador after Germany's navy chief said Crimea was "lost" and Putin "probably" deserved respect. Berlin distanced itself from the remarks.



Vice-admiral Kay-Achim Schönbach pictured in 2017
Vice-admiral Kay-Achim Schönbach said the West could give Vladimir Putin respect
Germany faced a diplomatic incident on Saturday following comments made by Navy chief Kay-Achim Schönbach on Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Ukraine crisis.
During a visit to India, Schönbach gave a talk at the Manohar Parrikar Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses, where he said Putin "probably" deserved respect.
"What he really wants is respect," the vice admiral said, speaking in English in remarks that were posted on a video on YouTube.
"And, my God, giving someone respect is low cost, even no cost. ... It is easy to give him the respect he really demands — and probably also deserves," Schönbach said, calling Russia an old and important country.
Schönbach said Russia's actions in Ukraine needed to be addressed, but added that "the Crimea Peninsula is gone: It will never come back — this is a fact."
The remarks directly contradicted the official view held by the EU and the US. Washington and its allies say that Moscow's 2014 annexation of the peninsula from Ukraine was unacceptable and must be reversed.



Swedish defense minister: 'We must be prepared for all scenarios' when dealing with Russia​

On Saturday, Ukraine's Foreign Ministry said it has summoned German Ambassador Anka Feldhusen to stress "the categorical unacceptability" of Schönbach's comments.

Schönbach apologizes on Twitter​

The navy chief's comments come as Russia has gathered tens of thousand of troops on Ukraine's borders and many worry that an invasion could be in the works. Russia has denied any planned aggression against Ukraine.
The German government made no official statement, although it distanced itself from Schönbach's comments on Saturday.
"The content and choice of words of the statements in no way correspond to the position of the Federal Ministry of Defense," a German Defense Ministry spokesman told public broadcaster ZDF.
Schönbach must now explain himself to his superior, Inspector General Eberhard Zorn, the ministry said. Additionally, Germany's ruling coalition will discuss the navy chief's statements on Monday, ZDF reported.
For his part, Schönbach issued am apology on his Twitter account. "There is no need to quibble: it was clearly a mistake," he tweeted.

"My defense policy remarks during a talk session at a think tank in India reflected my personal opinion in that moment. They in no way reflect the official position of the defense ministry," he wrote.

Ukraine: comments are 'disappointing'​

The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry called on Germany to reject Schönbach's comments regarding Crimea, saying they undermine the efforts to counter Russian aggression.
"Ukraine is grateful to Germany for the support it has already provided since 2014, as well as for the diplomatic efforts to resolve the Russian-Ukrainian armed conflict. But Germany's current statements are disappointing and run counter to that support and effort," Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said in tweet.


Blinken: 'We will continue to stand with Ukraine'​

"The German partners must stop undermining unity with such words and actions and encouraging (Russian President) Vladimir Putin to launch a new attack on Ukraine," Kuleba added.
Kyiv also highlighted its "deep disappointment" at the German government's position "on the failure to provide defense weapons to Ukraine." The lack of weapons support is another point of contention between the two countries.
On Friday, Germany reportedly went as far as block Estonia from sending its German-made weapons to Ukraine.
Berlin has long argued that it does not support sending weapons to active conflict zones and stressed that such deliveries would hinder negotiations and a peaceful resolution to the crisis.


@aziqbal , When I tried to tell you these dynamics, you didn't believe me.
People like Putin don't settle for mere "respect". The first thing Putin does every morning is look at the eastern european map. He aims to dominate europe, not merely get respect from europe. he has no beef with China which is also one of Russia's greatest trading partners. don't expect Putin to simply turn against Russia's greatest and most trusted ally China simply because europe decides to give him "respect"! one of the most laughable things I've heard coming outta europe to date. :lol:
 

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