General Atomics debuts at DefExpo - sell (EMALS) ????

[SpArK]

General Atomics debuts at DefExpo

General Atomics was present at DefExpo for the first time. But it wasn't about the Predator or Reaper drones. Hint: It's to do with aircraft carriers.

The manufacturer of the Predator and Reaper Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) was present at DefExpo 2014 for the first time. General Atomics’ Scott Forney spoke about their interest in India and what discussions they’ve had with the defense ministry.

But it has nothing to with UAVs.

General Atomics is trying to interest the Indian Navy in their Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch Systems (EMALS) for India’s indigenous aircraft carriers.

This system is still under development for the US Navy’s Gerald Ford-class aircraft carriers.

Video: General Atomics debuts at DefExpo | StratPost

 

[Nova2]

kinda hard to belive. But great news

 

[PARIKRAMA]

whoa... is it the baby steps towards the massive IAC and many folks forecasting of F35 donning indian colors?? IF that happens, that could push Navy to a whole new level..

But there is always a BIG IF

 

[Abingdonboy]

whoa... is it the baby steps towards the massive IAC and many folks forecasting of F35 donning indian colors?? IF that happens, that could push Navy to a whole new level..

But there is always a BIG IF

If the IN goes for EMALS (which is looking ever more likely) then the F-35Cs are an almost certainty for the IAC-2 and beyond.

Eh @sancho?

 

[Abingdonboy]

Key points from above video-

-GD has briefed the IN and specifically the IN's Naval design bureau Carrier design team on the EMALS/arrestor gear tech
- Mentions E-2(D) numerous times which would suggest this was a key requirement for the IN and is validated by the fact the IN has already shown interest in the E-2(D) and the USG has even cleared the E-2D's sale to India.
-Mentions the IAC-2 and 3 are likely to be CATOBAR configured, validates the thinking the next 2 ACCs (2 and 3) will be sister ships and of the same design which makes sense as the Viky, IAC-1 and IAC-2 will all be of different sizes and classes so having a fixed base is a good idea. The fact he mentions IAC-3 indicates this is planned for and he got this info from the IN itself.
- Export licence needs to be issued by the USG and EMALS and other such tech will be sold under a FMS agreement, all this points to a package deal that could see the entire aviation package for both IAC-2 and -3 be of US origin (S-70B, F-35C, E-2D, maybe some US/GD UAVs, both fixed wing and rotary wing?).

-As mentioned GD have significant expertise in the Nuclear field specifically on USN ACCs- could this also indicate the IAC-2/3 will be CVNs? This last point is pure speculation from me.


@Dillinger @sancho @Capt.Popeye @Penguin thoughts?

 

[Penguin]

NO way US will assist development of nuclear propulsed carriers for India (why give up that advantage)

 

[Skull and Bones]

If the IN goes for EMALS (which is looking ever more likely) then the F-35Cs are an almost certainty for the IAC-2 and beyond.

Eh @sancho?

I told that years ago, but no one believed.

 

[madooxno9]

NO way US will assist development of nuclear propulsed carriers for India (why give up that advantage)

Just a noob question my lord , is it totally different then Nuke sub ? I mean the nuclear propulsion plant or as they say miniature of nuke plant.

 

[Skull and Bones]

Just a noob question my lord , is it totally different then Nuke sub ? I mean the nuclear propulsion plant or as they say miniature of nuke plant.

Designing nuke sub power plant is a very critical job.

 

[madooxno9]

Designing nuke sub power plant is a very critical job.

Bhai tho apun log jab nuke sub ka Plant set kar sakta hai tho Air craft carrier ka kyu nahi ?

Different hoega thabi na ?

 

[Penguin]

Just a noob question my lord , is it totally different then Nuke sub ? I mean the nuclear propulsion plant or as they say miniature of nuke plant.

In the US, clearly no.

USS Enterprise (CVN-65), was the world's first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier and the eighth United States naval vessel to bear the name.Enterprise is also the only aircraft carrier to house more than two nuclear reactors,[4] having an eight-reactor propulsion design, with each A2W reactortaking the place of one of the conventional boilers in earlier constructions.[25]She is the only carrier with four rudders, two more than other classes, and features a more cruiser-like hull

The A2W reactor is a naval reactor used by the United States Navy to provide electricity generation and propulsion on warships. The A2W designation stands for:

• A = Aircraft carrier platform
• 2 = Second generation core designed by the contractor
• W = Westinghouse was the contracted designer

This nuclear reactor was used in the world's first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise (CVN-65).
Power: 120 MWth or 35,000 SHP

The S2W reactor is a naval reactor used by the United States Navy to provide electricity generation and propulsion on warships. The S2W designation stands for:

• S = Submarine platform
• 2 = Second generation core designed by the contractor
• W = Westinghouse was the contracted designer

This nuclear reactor is the shipboard equivalent of the prototype S1W reactor, with minor design changes, that was installed on theUSS Nautilus (SSN-571). As installed in Nautilus it generated 13,400 horsepower (10.0 MW). It was originally designated STR
Power: 13,400 SHP

U.S. Naval Reactors

In France clearly yes.

CHarles de Gaulle carrier
2 × K15 pressurised water reactors (PWR), 150 MW each

Triomphant submarine
K15 pressurised water reactor (150 MW),
turboreductor system,
Pump-jet
two diesel-powered generators SEMT Pielstick 8PA4V200 SM (700 kW) auxiliaries.
30,500 kW

 

[madooxno9]

In the US, clearly no.

USS Enterprise (CVN-65), was the world's first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier and the eighth United States naval vessel to bear the name.Enterprise is also the only aircraft carrier to house more than two nuclear reactors,[4] having an eight-reactor propulsion design, with each A2W reactortaking the place of one of the conventional boilers in earlier constructions.[25]She is the only carrier with four rudders, two more than other classes, and features a more cruiser-like hull

The A2W reactor is a naval reactor used by the United States Navy to provide electricity generation and propulsion on warships. The A2W designation stands for:

• A = Aircraft carrier platform
• 2 = Second generation core designed by the contractor
• W = Westinghouse was the contracted designer

This nuclear reactor was used in the world's first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise (CVN-65).
Power: 120 MWth or 35,000 SHP

The S2W reactor is a naval reactor used by the United States Navy to provide electricity generation and propulsion on warships. The S2W designation stands for:

• S = Submarine platform
• 2 = Second generation core designed by the contractor
• W = Westinghouse was the contracted designer

This nuclear reactor is the shipboard equivalent of the prototype S1W reactor, with minor design changes, that was installed on theUSS Nautilus (SSN-571). As installed in Nautilus it generated 13,400 horsepower (10.0 MW). It was originally designated STR
Power: 13,400 SHP

U.S. Naval Reactors

In France clearly yes.

CHarles de Gaulle carrier
2 × K15 pressurised water reactors (PWR), 150 MW each

Triomphant submarine
K15 pressurised water reactor (150 MW),
turboreductor system,
Pump-jet
two diesel-powered generators SEMT Pielstick 8PA4V200 SM (700 kW) auxiliaries.
30,500 kW

So as we have calibrated nuke plant in Sub , is it possible that we can do that in ACs?

 

[Skull and Bones]

Bhai tho apun log jab nuke sub ka Plant set kar sakta hai tho Air craft carrier ka kyu nahi ?

Different hoega thabi na ?

You can put in multiple reactors to satisfy the power requirement in a ACC.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Just a noob question my lord , is it totally different then Nuke sub ? I mean the nuclear propulsion plant or as they say miniature of nuke plant.

Well in a very simplistic sense it is based on the same principals- a miniaturised reactor is a miniaturised reactor, both reactors on a CVN and SSBN/SSN are meant to do the same thing the only thing that will differ is the power requirements. The fact that India has its own reactor on the Arihant means it has the capability to design and build one for a CVN.

 

[Penguin]

So as we have calibrated nuke plant in Sub , is it possible that we can do that in ACs?

In France clearly yes.

CHarles de Gaulle carrier
2 × K15 pressurised water reactors (PWR), 150 MW each

Triomphant submarine
K15 pressurised water reactor (150 MW),
turboreductor system,
Pump-jet
two diesel-powered generators SEMT Pielstick 8PA4V200 SM (700 kW) auxiliaries.
30,500 kW