Gen Zia's awesome reply to American journalist regarding nuclear weapons

[LeGenD]

bhai soviets 150k ki army ke sath torkham border per bijli ke meter check krne nhe aye thay
Pakistan was next target after Afghanistan

This was a popular narrative back then to justify so-called Jihad in Afghanistan (CIA-led of-course) but it lacks credibility.

USSR was not doing well in economic terms during 1980s and 'occupation of other states' was not a sound policy to address its economic woes. Secondly, Soviet intervention in Afghanistan was more to do with preventing the collapse of communist forces in the country then to project power into neighboring states. Read the book titled "My Life with the Taliban" from Abdul Salam Zaeef to understand the state of affairs in Afghanistan prior to Soviet invasion.

And if warm waters was the ultimate objective then why through Pakistan? Why not through Iran? Think about it.

 

[MultaniGuy]

This was a popular narrative back then to justify so-called Jihad in Afghanistan (CIA-led of-course) but it lacks credibility.

USSR was not doing well in economic terms during 1980s and occupations are very expensive ventures in modern times. Secondly, Soviet intervention in Afghanistan was more to do with preventing the collapse of communist forces in the country then to project power into neighboring states.

And if warm waters was the objective then why through Pakistan? Why not through Iran? Think about it.

Now the Soviet Union is gone.

 

[jamal18]

This was a popular narrative back then to justify so-called Jihad in Afghanistan (CIA-led of-course) but it lacks credibility.

USSR was not doing well in economic terms during 1980s and occupations are very expensive ventures in modern times. Secondly, Soviet intervention in Afghanistan was more to do with preventing the collapse of communist forces in the country then to project power into neighboring states.

And if warm waters was the objective then why through Pakistan? Why not through Iran? Think about it.

Yes. The truth was the Russians didn't want to get involved, they came to stop their allies from collapsing. The Russians wanted to slow down the level of 'socialism', the Afghan Communist wanted to accelerate it. In reality there was no threat to Pakistan, nor was it a drive to the sea.

Oh yes, Zia. Greatest leader Pakistan ever had.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Yes. The truth was the Russians didn't want to get involved, they came to stop their allies from collapsing. The Russians wanted to slow down the level of 'socialism', the Afghan Communist wanted to accelerate it. In raelity there was no threat to Pakistan, nor was it a drive to the sea.

Oh yes, Zia. Greatest leader Pakistan ever had.

Yes Zia was the greatest leader Pakistan ever had.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Strange isn't it even after all the destruction that he's responsible for people are showing love to him!
awesome slogan

he was mard-e-momin for many here
i remember watching a Major Amir Interview with Shahid masood, in which he claims that he told Zia about his assasination plot many month before his crash, and since than he took American Ambassador to every where even bathroom hahaha so much for mard-e-momin

 

[LeGenD]

Now the Soviet Union is gone.

Bro,

It is has little to do with Afghanistan.

My contention is that while Zia regime intervened in Afghanistan to push Soviets back, it had no "EXIT STRATEGY" for this conflict and this came back to haunt us after 9/11. Though you may say in defense that Zia-ul-Haq was assassinated before he could do much. However, we can only speculate about Zia's plans for Pakistan in the aftermath of Soviet-Afghan War. I hear that he decided to redeploy Mujahideen to Kashmir.

 

[The Sandman]

he was mard-e-momin for many here
i remember watching a Major Amir Interview with Shahid masood, in which he claims that he told Zia about his assasination plot many month before his crash, and since than he took American Ambassador to every where even bathroom hahaha so much for mard-e-momin

 

[El Sidd]

Let it go guys. He is dead. Lol

But if you have to do it for the sake of fashion then i can understand.

Respect to the guy that he takes the blame and responsibility even when dead.

Usko to zameen kha gayi tumhe zindagi khane wali hai.. prepare for that lol

 

[Reichsmarschall]

he was mard-e-momin for many here
i remember watching a Major Amir Interview with Shahid masood, in which he claims that he told Zia about his assasination plot many month before his crash, and since than he took American Ambassador to every where even bathroom hahaha so much for mard-e-momin

he also told many other things in his interview regarding Israel US and Soviets looks like you ignored those things

 

[Zhukov]

Too much love for Zia here
@The Sandman What da hell, What da Fuk , Zia ul Haq Zia ul haq

Personality cult created by Mullahs amoung less educated masses is not easy to go.

 

[Falcon26]

whatever they come there for , It wasn't the Russian that blow 70K+ Pakistani to bits and pieces , it was the Seed of Zia ul Na-Haq , that we reap and sow .. Today they Extremist and Terrorism you see is directly and indirectly connected to Zia , I am glad that he died in Plane crash , and i won't be surprised if he was eliminated by our Agencies , he was more of a threat to Pakistan existence than India , Soviets or Americans

The guy is dead. Just show some class and move on.

Bro,

It is has little to do with Afghanistan.

My contention is that while Zia regime intervened in Afghanistan to push Soviets back, it had no "EXIT STRATEGY" for this conflict and this came back to haunt us after 9/11. Though you may say in defense that Zia-ul-Haq was assassinated before he could do much. However, we can only speculate about Zia's plans for Pakistan in the aftermath of Soviet-Afghan War. I hear that he decided to redeploy Mujahideen to Kashmir.

The blowback came to haunt everyone. The Pakistanis, the Americans, the Saudis and the West. But your country was facing an existential threat. The soviets wanted the warm waters of the Arabian Sea. Pakistan was the next logical target and at best would have been sandwiched between India and Soviet Union. Zia was a bold man, accelerated the nuclear program, modernized his military and called soviet union's bluff and brought the evil empire to a close. Of course, it came with a price but as he said, freedom has no price. He was a bold strong man. Your country would have been much different if subsequent leaders were as bold as him.

There's a reason why there's a remnant of the Berlin Wall at the ISI HQ sent by the German intel chief that reads "TO THE ONE THAT STUCK THE FIRST BLOW"

 

[Malik Alpha]

To those who are hating on General Zia Ul Haq. Gandi aulad na maza na swad

 

[Lagay Raho]

he also told many other things in his interview regarding Israel US and Soviets looks like you ignored those things

but but..'Yahoodi Sazish' is a myth,no?

 

[Reichsmarschall]

but but..'Yahoodi Sazish' is a myth,no?

regarding israeli attack on kahutta and planting their agent in PAF

 

[Lagay Raho]

regarding israeli attack on kahutta and planting their agent in PAF

and the list goes on but i will just blame everything on mullahs and Zia it helps me sleep at night