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Gen Raheel Sharif thwarted coup attempt in 2014 : The Battle for Pakistan

For the folks who wanted LT Gen Tariq Khan as COAS. He was a good general and an officer but if he was COAS then this supposed coup would have had happened. However, not out of love for LT Gen Zaheer.

Ask anyone having family in 55 LC (or a few courses senior/junior) about his days in infantry school.

What is special about Gen Tariq ? Can you please elaborate on this point.

There's a reason why Shuja Nawaz's book events were cancelled by the Army. He is one of the most authentic sources on Pakistan Army, his earlier book is a testimony of that.

going by your logic ... Why did Army even gave interviews to him in the first place ?

Anything described by Azaz Syed and the News is only worthy of selling pakoras. Sounds BS to me tbh.

How would you rate Shuja Nawaz on credibility scale from 1( being least credible) to 10( most credible ) ?
 
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Anything described by Azaz Syed and the News is only worthy of selling pakoras. Sounds BS to me tbh.
i think this will be the first time i am reading something good on Lt.Gen Pasha, that too from Pakistani print media.
He was one of the best SpyMaster we ever had after Gen.Akhtar who led the Afghan war.
 
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i think this will be the first time i am reading something good on Lt.Gen Pasha, that too from Pakistani print media.
He was one of the best SpyMaster we ever had after Gen.Akhtar who led the Afghan war.

I think the turning point in Gen Pasha's modus operandi happened after OBL incident.. He wanted to make sure America suffered in Afghanistan.
 
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I think the turning point in Gen Pasha's modus operandi happened after OBL incident.. He wanted to make sure America suffered in Afghanistan.
as mentioned in above article and in the books authored by Americans and British, Gen.Pasha was a nationalist, all he cared was for Pakistan.He was aggressive and passionate about it, it was for this reason all his children studied in Pakistani institutions, even when he could have got them into ivy League institutes.
he wanted Americans to talk to Taliban and end the wat, as he did not want the fallout of this war in Pakistan, nor he wanted an Indian influenced Govt in Afghanistan. So the assumption that Pasha sb wanted Americans to suffer in Afghanistan is wrong.
 
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What is special about Gen Tariq ? Can you please elaborate on this point.

I was referring to another thread where some members wished that he be the COAS instead of Gen RS (who was a good general as well. Anyone who can cut it to become a 2-3 star has what it takes to be a good general).

LT Gen Tariq was a good officer/general and my father who served with him would have liked it if he had become the COAS then. However, things do not happen as one hopes or plans.

As for his early days career. I would let other members add in before mentioning what I was told. Lets see if anyone knows about him here.
 
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going by your logic ... Why did Army even gave interviews to him in the first place ?

There's no logic here, it's the truth, you can confirm with the event managers in all three cities, everybody knows GHQ had the ceremonies cancelled. General JK was one of the speakers.
 
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Gen Pasha didn't come from the spook club. He just understood the capability of the ruthlessly efficient machine he had at his disposal and put his leadership skills to the mix.

Career spies are mostly too wise for their own good. They only use the hammer as a last resort.


i think this will be the first time i am reading something good on Lt.Gen Pasha, that too from Pakistani print media.
He was one of the best SpyMaster we ever had after Gen.Akhtar who led the Afghan war.
 
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In a country with history of 4 successful coups, i wont take this as a propaganda.
 
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Let me Answer this BS with quote from good Gen Pasha "U.S. arrogance knew no limits” and accused the Americans of waging “psychological warfare.” this Book is nothing more then Part of " psychological warfare ".
 
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Chances of coup was almost there and It was a good move by General RS to block any such attempt. Also Karachi would not have cleaned up without Lt Gen Rizwan as he was hands down on it when it comes to Karachi. Appointing Lt. General Zaheer as ISI head was not a good choice from the start as well while Lt Gen. Pasha was a very ruthless and result oriented spy head.
 
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Honestly speaking, we need a Nationalist DG ISI , its about time .. US will leave Afghanistan sooner or later and it will be us once again who will have to do the clean up , its high time we look after our own interest . For those who are confused over the rumor of a possible coup, you need to understand in any Internal Political turmoil such rumors are very common, I remember a lot of article and youtubers follow up BS rumors of such , Brigade 111 was moved to protect the national Institution but was seen as a Possible preparation of a take over. NS was dangerous as he put MI against the ISI by intercepting calls, as for ISI they indeed keep a sharp eye on all aspects and prevent anarchy , even if it means intervention . I am amazed how they talked about Rizwan akhter, that guy break the back bone of Karachi unrest ,and took down MQM . I doubt he was a bad DG, he might be disliked by US because covertly US has put active assets in Karachi to keep it destabilize it .
 
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It was IB listening in on the DG I, I believe.

Which makes me wonder what kind of op-sec DGs use and how easy it is for sophisticated Western intel to listen in...

Oh sorry my bad... ya IB not FIA
 
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Anything described by Azaz Syed and the News is only worthy of selling pakoras. Sounds BS to me tbh.
They are not pakoras anymore LHR High Court took them as evidence in Rana Sana case

NS called off RS and shared the communication of DG ISI (audio communications). That scene further enhances the clash btw the big players... RS wasn't expecting that nor MI knows that NS using IB against the mil officers. NS did that intentionally. He equipped IB for that purpose...
Sheikh rasheed said on record those days NS and SS brought sophistication on tapping. Theior plan was to rule for good 25 yrs but Panama changed the things. Media cell that maryam ran is on same ledder BJP media cell runs

In a country with history of 4 successful coups, i wont take this as a propaganda.
Coup won't happen by lower ranks not in Pak look at history also all the time political parties also involve in game. A coup always done by whole institution not by a DG ISI who has no corp under him.
 
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Thats why i don't like Army officers getting trained in USA. It brings more harm then good
Too true. When will this ever end? So many countries pay the highest penalty for this blindness.
 
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