Gen. Bajwa, save Pakistan by a military takeover

[DJ_Viper]

You dont know what you are talking about, Nawaz's president in the early 90's tried to remove him from power for corruption and Nawaz fought a dirty fight to cling on. In the 2000's he defined ethnic politics by constantly playing the Punjabi card, and now we can see all the drama he is creating while a massive corruption case is happening.

Zardari is just too complicated to condense in a single post, but he possibly assassinated his wife and used her death to get into power. Again, you have NO idea what you are talking about and I dont know why your coming after me American since I never argued that point.

Sure, I have no idea. That's very easy to defy gravity. But the gravity still exists. Did Shriffs really "looted" your country? Have the generals not done so? All other politicians including the cricketer turned billionaire (somehow, magic?).

I know the dirty games played in Pakistan and India. There isn't much difference. The most significant difference that set India towards being a top-end economy was their democratic system. They had and still have some serious issues, including the corruption. But, their people have brains and they use them vs. going violent and pulling legs, which is a by product of having one man rule.

When generations see civilian rule, they understated to follow the system, let it finish its term, and stand by it and make improvements. In your country, there is no room for improvements as the guy who lost, will try to destabilize the entire country and the system, vs. waiting for the next elections. That's what you get when all your life, you've seen one guy, on a fine night, coming in and removing all elected people from the government and running the country to ground. Watching that behavior all your life, will produce the same mindset in politics where defeat means, its so personal that you'd want to damage your country like that one guy who came in at night. So guess what? You start to look for that guy to come in at night again and take over. Sounds familiar? That was Pakistan's 45 years long story sadly.

Your people were ahead of South Korea and KSA back in the 60's, these rail roads, highways, power plants, were in their destiny 50 years ago. But because of lack of a proper civilian leadership, the country was damaged and the system was never developed. And 70 years after, your public is now learning what "real" public transportation is!! How sad? Learn to accept the majority's rule, if you don't, you can further divide your country. Its not too far in the future when people would start to want a better lifestyle as they could've had it 50 years ago. Similarly, when the court says you are guilty, well its done. And if they let someone go 15 or 20 years ago, they were free. Again, learn to respect the system and the institutions.

Pakistan is the only place where people like you believe only you are right. If a decision comes against you, it was wrong and fabricated like the tall claims we saw taking shape after the elections. Now the band and the wagon is on a different stop. No one talks about the "rigged" elections. Whatever happened to that topic as it destroyed two years and billions of dollars? Again, respect the Vote, the Legal System and the Democratic System. Without these, a country is well on its way to become an Afghanistan 2.0!

 

[Flash_Ninja]

All other politicians including the cricketer turned billionaire (somehow, magic?).

His net worth is 50 Million Dollars, he played international cricket for two decades and invested his money in various different places throughout his time. The money trail is all there but if you think you cracked the case, then put on your 'journalist' hat and go run along to Dawn or something.

I know the dirty games played in Pakistan and India. There isn't much difference. The most significant difference that set India towards being a top-end economy was their democratic system. They had and still have some serious issues, including the corruption. But, their people have brains and they use them vs. going violent and pulling legs, which is a by product of having one man rule.

When generations see civilian rule, they understated to follow the system, let it finish its term, and stand by it and make improvements. In your country, there is no room for improvements as the guy who lost, will try to destabilize the entire country and the system, vs. waiting for the next elections. That's what you get when all your life, you've seen one guy, on a fine night, coming in and removing all elected people from the government and running the country to ground. Watching that behavior all your life, will produce the same mindset in politics where defeat means, its so personal that you'd want to damage your country like that one guy who came in at night. So guess what? You start to look for that guy to come in at night again and take over. Sounds familiar? That was Pakistan's 45 years long story sadly.

You clearly dont understand Pakistani history or politics, its like if I said American history is populated by some idiot president who people despise and who runs the country into the ground because of foreign interests. Sound familiar?

Your people were ahead of South Korea and KSA back in the 60's, these rail roads, highways, power plants, were in their destiny 50 years ago. But because of lack of a proper civilian leadership, the country was damaged and the system was never developed. And 70 years after, your public is now learning what "real" public transportation is!! How sad? Learn to accept the majority's rule, if you don't, you can further divide your country. Its not too far in the future when people would start to want a better lifestyle as they could've had it 50 years ago.

A lot of Pakistans vital infrastructure came under military rule, so what you think because we didn't have a metro bus in the 70's its only because we didn't have a civilian government? Dont be stupid, your on a Pakistani forum for god sake go look up the infrastructure in the country and find out when it was built. You will quickly see that a lot of useless projects materialised in the last few years and important projects materialised either decades ago or during Musharrafs time.

and stop arguing with me you moron, I'm not the guy starting this thread nor am I supporting his views.

 

[Hamzay]

Its not unheard of for people to send money to their spouse? All the money trail is there for the courts to examine, and all of his other assets are publicly available. Hes probably one of the few tax paying politicians in the entire country, and he has the records to actually prove it.

Every ordinary Pakistani tax 'chor' provides a money trail to relevant agencies, not a big deal. Go and meet advocates in grand offices who will show you ways to steal taxes.

Nawaz Sharif is also providing a money trail, and it's possible he'll get away with this. Imran Khan has also provided the money trail by showing that he didn't own a single vehicle, and the price of his flat in Islamabad's diplomatic enclave is 'ridiculous'. But so what? He's your leader, your Mahatama Hari Chand Imran Kishan Verma!

Sure, I have no idea. That's very easy to defy gravity. But the gravity still exists. Did Shriffs really "looted" your country? Have the generals not done so? All other politicians including the cricketer turned billionaire (somehow, magic?).

I know the dirty games played in Pakistan and India. There isn't much difference. The most significant difference that set India towards being a top-end economy was their democratic system. They had and still have some serious issues, including the corruption. But, their people have brains and they use them vs. going violent and pulling legs, which is a by product of having one man rule.

When generations see civilian rule, they understated to follow the system, let it finish its term, and stand by it and make improvements. In your country, there is no room for improvements as the guy who lost, will try to destabilize the entire country and the system, vs. waiting for the next elections. That's what you get when all your life, you've seen one guy, on a fine night, coming in and removing all elected people from the government and running the country to ground. Watching that behavior all your life, will produce the same mindset in politics where defeat means, its so personal that you'd want to damage your country like that one guy who came in at night. So guess what? You start to look for that guy to come in at night again and take over. Sounds familiar? That was Pakistan's 45 years long story sadly.

Your people were ahead of South Korea and KSA back in the 60's, these rail roads, highways, power plants, were in their destiny 50 years ago. But because of lack of a proper civilian leadership, the country was damaged and the system was never developed. And 70 years after, your public is now learning what "real" public transportation is!! How sad? Learn to accept the majority's rule, if you don't, you can further divide your country. Its not too far in the future when people would start to want a better lifestyle as they could've had it 50 years ago. Similarly, when the court says you are guilty, well its done. And if they let someone go 15 or 20 years ago, they were free. Again, learn to respect the system and the institutions.

Pakistan is the only place where people like you believe only you are right. If a decision comes against you, it was wrong and fabricated like the tall claims we saw taking shape after the elections. Now the band and the wagon is on a different stop. No one talks about the "rigged" elections. Whatever happened to that topic as it destroyed two years and billions of dollars? Again, respect the Vote, the Legal System and the Democratic System. Without these, a country is well on its way to become an Afghanistan 2.0!

DJ, you're an intelligent person. But our voters are not that wise in this country. And you can't compare India with Pakistan. Apart from my hatred for India, I admit their politicians are not as dirty as ours are. At least they are patriotic, they are not agents of China and Pakistan. But here we have Imran Khan, a Zionist agent. Nawaz Sharif, God knows whether he has interests in India or somewhere else.

This country Pakistan was also not created by politicians in this part of the subcontinent. They have been donkeys and monkeys from the beginning, landowners, gangsters, robbers with no character.

This is the reason why democracy will never ever be successful in this country. The only best option is danda rule, military run technocratic government.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Every ordinary Pakistani tax 'chor' provides a money trail to relevant agencies, not a big deal. Go and meet advocates in grand offices who will show you ways to steal taxes.

Nawaz Sharif is also providing a money trail, and it's possible he'll get away with this. Imran Khan has also provided the money trail by showing that he didn't own a single vehicle, and the price of his flat in Islamabad's diplomatic enclave is 'ridiculous'. But so what? He's your leader, your Mahatama Hari Chand Imran Kishan Verma!

Unlike Imran Khan, Nawaz cant show the money trail its why we have the case in the first place.

But im sure proving you wrong will just cause you to cry about how everything is a "jewish conspiracy".

have fun with your delusions, bye

 

[Hamzay]

Most of the development in Pakistan owed the military rule of Ayub, Zia and Musharraf.

Unlike Imran Khan, Nawaz cant show the money trail its why we have the case in the first place.

But im sure proving you wrong will just cause you to cry about how everything is a "jewish conspiracy".

have fun with your delusions, bye

Fool someone else who is a dehati villager, not an educated Pakistani like me. Don't I know how Imran Khan kept changing statements about Banigala? First that he purchased the land and had construction from the money he got out of selling his flat in London, and then a U-turn, no no sorry, I didn't have money (because I'm a gambler) so my Jewish wife 'donated' money to buy this piece of 'Jungle' (Banigala)...contacted the ex wife. She said, sorry darling the bank through which I sent money has doomed (merged with Lloyds)..okey babe do something or else this Ganja League will get me undressed. Ok no worries my Israeli Prince. Is it a big deal for her to get fake papers for a bank transaction? Here in Pakistan people like you or I can get any fake paper for a transaction lol. And so the 'money trail' arrived from Lady Goldsmith, Wannabe First Israeli Lady of Pakistan.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Don't I know how Imran Khan kept changing statements about Banigala? First that he purchased the land and had construction from the money he got out of selling his flat in London, and then a U-turn, no no sorry, I didn't have money (because I'm a gambler) so my Jewish wife 'donated' money to buy this piece of 'Jungle' (Banigala)...contacted the ex wife. She said, sorry darling the bank through which I sent money has doomed (merged with Lloyds)..okey babe do something or else this Ganja League will get me undressed. Ok now worries my Israeli Prince. Is it a big deal for her to get fake papers for a bank transaction? Here in Pakistan people like you or I can get any fake paper for a transaction lol. And so the 'money trail' arrived from Lady Goldsmith, Wannabe First Israeli Lady of Pakistan.

You need to stop reading fake news, and filling in the gaps with this flawed logic. He was with his wife at the time, and is still very close with her. But of course, everything must be the fault of those 'evil yahoodis' that are hell bent with providing such a transparent trail of money for the public to follow; How dare they!?!?!? Dont they know the Pakistani way is to launder it with as many relatives and shell companies as possible!?!?!

IMPROVING PAKISTANI GOVERNANCE MUST BE A ZIONIST CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!

Fool someone else who is a dehati villager, not an educated Pakistani like me.

Calling people who disagree with you 'a villager' shows what kind of character you have. If anything is wrong in Pakistan its because of bigoted know-it-all classist morons like you, who cant apply a little logic and thinking to basic things.

 

[Boomin' Bomber I.J.]

Don't expect Gen. Bajwa to take over. He was chosen well by NS. He's a Scorpio, and scorpions hardly ever turn dictators. Previous military dictators in Pakistan, all belonging to fixed signs (Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, Aquarius)

1. Gen. Ayub Khan: Taurus
2. Gen. Yahya Khan: Aquarius
3. Gen. Zia-ul-Haq: Leo
4. Gen. Parvez Musharraf: Leo

Some other 'infamous' dictators around the world:
1. Adolf Hitler: Taurus
2. Joseph Stalin: Sagittarius
3. Mao Zedong: Capricorn
4. Benito Mussolini: Leo
5. Pol Pot: Taurus
6. Kim Jong-il: Aquarius
7. Saddam Hussein: Taurus
8. Robert Mugabe: Aquarius
9. Fidel Castro: Leo
10. Col. Gaddafi: Gemini
11. Idi Amin: Leo
12. Kaiser Wilhelm II: Aquarius
13. Ho Chi Minh: Taurus
14. Leopold II: Aries

 

[turbofan7a]

What!! I am Taurus as per western astrology and Aquarius as per hindu astrology...so the time has come to take over the world.

 

[Dark-Destroyer]

Why don't you have mercy on the people of Pakistan?



Ayub Khan to Musharraf, none of them plundered the wealth of this nation. Their children did not build empires like Bhuttos, Zardaris and Sharifs.

And Imran Khan, the shame of Pakistan, is the richest cricketer of Pakistan.. the Zionist Parasite retired from cricket in early 1990s when cricket didn't give as much money as it gives now, but he's the richest cricketer in Pakistan beating all including Wasim, Waqar, Misbah, Afridi etc.

Why so personal on Imran khan is he related to you...

What!! I am Taurus as per western astrology and Aquarius as per hindu astrology...so the time has come to take over the world.

its best you just take over india for the time being.

 

[Maxpane]

we cant get progress under military .

 

[Imad.Khan]

You need to stop reading fake news, and filling in the gaps with this flawed logic. He was with his wife at the time, and is still very close with her. But of course, everything must be the fault of those 'evil yahoodis' that are hell bent with providing such a transparent trail of money for the public to follow; How dare they!?!?!? Dont they know the Pakistani way is to launder it with as many relatives and shell companies as possible!?!?!

IMPROVING PAKISTANI GOVERNANCE MUST BE A ZIONIST CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!



Calling people who disagree with you 'a villager' shows what kind of character you have. If anything is wrong in Pakistan its because of bigoted know-it-all classist morons like you, who cant apply a little logic and thinking to basic things.

Just ignore him, he is a jewish agent who wants to derail Pakistan into anarchy.

 

[Tom M]

When politicians take over Pakistan under a democratic set up; they try to assert their authority bypassing military establishment, forgetting that they are to share power and not to exercise it absolutely. Zardari learnt it quickly though he did try to take over ISI, but Nawaz Sharif has germs of acting like a daddie. He wanted to punish Musharraf and he wanted to tell the army that it has to accept Prime Minister's office as chief executive of Pakistan.



Are you not tired of this monkey show in Pakistan which has been on since 2013? And add 5 years of Zardari rule to it. Did you see any miracles under them?

Are you serious mate ???

To be frank, Military of any nation looks good only inside barracks or near the border's.

 

[DJ_Viper]

His net worth is 50 Million Dollars, he played international cricket for two decades and invested his money in various different places throughout his time. The money trail is all there but if you think you cracked the case, then put on your 'journalist' hat and go run along to Dawn or something.

Right......cricketer in Pakistani cricket, goes to UK, makes a few hundred thousand pounds and turns them into $ 50 million dollars. And that's investments. He should write a book on how to turn half a million pounds into $ 50 million dollars. I can assure you there is no legal way of doing it to this degree. Sooner or later, he'll need to be audited, it always happens.

You clearly dont understand Pakistani history or politics, its like if I said American history is populated by some idiot president who people despise and who runs the country into the ground because of foreign interests. Sound familiar?

You don't know American history because you never studied it. I know Pakistan's history as I've researched and written and have watched it for over 15 years! If you didn't get that from my post that I know your internal bullsh!t just as much as you do (and more), you have clear judgement issues.

A lot of Pakistans vital infrastructure came under military rule, so what you think because we didn't have a metro bus in the 70's its only because we didn't have a civilian government? Dont be stupid, your on a Pakistani forum for god sake go look up the infrastructure in the country and find out when it was built. You will quickly see that a lot of useless projects materialised in the last few years and important projects materialised either decades ago or during Musharrafs time.

and stop arguing with me you moron, I'm not the guy starting this thread nor am I supporting his views.

So I am going to humiliate you here as I know more about your infrastructure then you do! The only one rail line that goes through the country, was built back by the British! The ONLY main highway that went throughout the country was also built by the Brits! till Shariffs built the new highway system.

In the last few years, the world has come to known a different Pakistan than the past 70 years. I told you I invest in Pakistani stocks. Four years ago, someone would ask me, I would probably get pissed at them for suggesting me to spend my money in wasteland. But in the past 4 years, there is a massive economic turnaround and the globe knows about it. Somehow, you and the dictator loving members or the "other parties", will close your eyes standing in front of these game changing developments inside Pakistan. That is the difference between you and the Indians. People with this mentality are shameless and for your political reasons, you put your country's growth in danger. People on here aren't the real poor Pakistanis, the real poor Pakistanis can't probably afford to be in English schools. You come back and tell me when you have a list of projects that were created for public welfare in the entire military history of Pakistan. Its only the civilians who can create and deliver on a growth based agenda.

Like I said, its useless to argue with people with your mindset. You guys have no care for your nation or its people. This is just power greed.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

 

[Zibago]

Here we go, I was waiting on these kind of threads to start popping up like a month ago due to the political turmoil you people have created. I lost money in your stocks!! . It seems like we are more caring and friendly to Pakistan than the Pakistanis.

Always remember, there is not ONE country on this planet who is success economically and can say " we grew to be a big economy because our we had dictators running us". There is not one example of an economically strong country, period.

Your system needs to mature, stupid politicians who make stuff personal, vs. try to act mature for the nation, and not create a divide need to go. Democracy is to sit down, negotiate and make a deal among all political parties so that the system can complete its term and a growth agenda is supported. You people haven't learned a cent from the Indian system and what it can bring to the table in terms of growth. No military can ever grow or save a country, eventually it would become like Libya or Afghanistan 2.0!

Respect the system, vote for mature politicians who can follow an agenda that helps the entire nation to grow economically. Anyone who does corruption, the system will clean him out.

Mr Aurengzeb if you dont consider yourself a Pakistani its best if you stay out of our internal affairs

 

[DJ_Viper]

Mr Aurengzeb if you dont consider yourself a Pakistani its best if you stay out of our internal affairs

LOL, one dude calls me "Arsalaan", another one calls me a different name. Tomorrow, someone will call me with a different name. I am a member of the forum, I have the right to write my opinion about a topic of my choosing. You don't have to agree with me or include me in your post. Thanks!