GB should be given province status

[American Pakistani]

Kashmir WOULD have been independent. You can all thank Jinnah for his greed, which forced the Raja to accede to India.I personally thank Jinnah and pakistan's decision makers for their stupidity. And comparing Goa with Kashmir is like comparing apples and oranges.

Your nehra was a greedy man after getting stoned by people in KPK he occupied Kashmir.

 

[Rusty]

So bottom line - Pakstan is justified in invading Kashmir unilaterally but India should not have done so. Wah wah.

Bottom like is that Pakistan should have the same rights as India. After all, India invaded Hyderabad and other states as well as Goa in the 60s. Why do you feel you have the right to invade anyone you feel like?

 

[KS]

Your nehra was a greedy man after getting stoned by people in KPK he occupied Kashmir.

Ashish Nehra ?

Bottom like is that Pakistan should have the same rights as India. After all, India invaded Hyderabad and other states as well as Goa in the 60s. Why do you feel you have the right to invade anyone you feel like?

Good you had that chance and you fvcked that up by conceding 2/3 to India. So stop crying about wanting our Kashmir and live with what you have. This is not to mention that it was Kashmir invasion that happened first before Junagadh or Hyderabad,

 

[Hindustani]

Your nehra was a greedy man after getting stoned by people in KPK he occupied Kashmir.

The cricketer?

 

[Rusty]

Ashish Nehra ?



Good you had that chance and you fvcked that up by conceding 2/3 to India. So stop crying about wanting our Kashmir and live with what you have. This is not to mention that it was Kashmir invasion that happened first before Junagadh or Hyderabad,

lol it's funny how you are bragging about "conquering" Kashmir, you had a veteran force that had fought in WW2 while we had a bunch of farmers in sandles. And yet you still could not take over the whole things.
This is such an Indian mentality, bragging over things that no one people would brag over.
"Oh look at us Indians, we are so great that out veteran force fought to a draw with farmers"

And yes, Kashmir did happen before the others, but that didn't stop India from invading them.

 

[Hindustani]

lol it's funny how you are bragging about "conquering" Kashmir, you had a veteran force that had fought in WW2 while we had a bunch of farmers in sandles. And yet you still could not take over the whole things.
This is such an Indian mentality, bragging over things that no one people would brag over.
"Oh look at us Indians, we are so great that out veteran force fought to a draw with farmers"

And yes, Kashmir did happen before the others, but that didn't stop India from invading them.

Ayub Khan, Tikka Khan, Niazi, Yahya Khan, Zia ul Huq, including most of those whom received the Nishan whatever were all farmers fighting in sandles and chadhis? LOL

 

[A1Kaid]

Forget the subcontinent - that issue was 60 years ago, and the blame lies entirely with Pakistan for the current composition of Kashmir (i.e., split between India/Pakistan). The fact remains that the blood of the innocents -- is the blood of Kashmiris -- our blood.

You must be a Mirpuri in UK, if I am right, unlike you Mirpuris I am a true Kashmiri and we Kashmiris are 100% committed to Pakistan and its development. Many Kashmiri families in Lahore and throughout Punjab and elsewhere in GB, Kashmiris are an integral part of Pakistani society.

 

[Azadkashmir]

mirpuri/pothwari problems with pak mainly punjab people get blame is to do with the flooding n no bijli n water. Control of airports and looting bribes. This is their problem with pak from what i have been told. In honesty their is racism between the two one only needs search the web.

 

[Rusty]

Ayub Khan, Tikka Khan, Niazi, Yahya Khan, Zia ul Huq, including most of those whom received the Nishan whatever were all farmers fighting in sandles and chadhis? LOL

so it was 5 Pakistani military officers and a bunch of farmers vs Veteran Indian forces.
Care to name more names, I will be happy to add their names to the numbers

 

[A1Kaid]

Mods please take action to clean up this thread, Pakistanis only.

 

[Hindustani]

so it was 5 Pakistani military officers and a bunch of farmers vs Veteran Indian forces.
Care to name more names, I will be happy to add their names to the numbers

You guys can keep lying to yourself

Dude most of your regiments had veterans from WWII and other campaigns fought under the British, I agree that India had the upper hand regarding numbers in infantry. But to you call soldiers farmers in sandles and chadhis is hilarious.

 

[rubyjackass]

lol it's funny how you are bragging about "conquering" Kashmir, you had a veteran force that had fought in WW2 while we had a bunch of farmers in sandles. And yet you still could not take over the whole things.
This is such an Indian mentality, bragging over things that no one people would brag over.
"Oh look at us Indians, we are so great that out veteran force fought to a draw with farmers"

And yes, Kashmir did happen before the others, but that didn't stop India from invading them.

Firstly, Pakistan had forces disproportionate(more than proportional) to its population's size in the Indian army. Punjab and Pathans dominated the British Indian army. In fact, that was one of the concerns on the minds of Indian leaders while negotiating partition. It is always better to be the underdog. Win, and you swam against all odds. Lose, claim heroism and say the other guy is too strong.

 

[genmirajborgza786]

Ashish Nehra ?



Good you had that chance and you fvcked that up by conceding 2/3 to India. So stop crying about wanting our Kashmir and live with what you have. This is not to mention that it was Kashmir invasion that happened first before Junagadh or Hyderabad,

2/3 of Kashmir ! my friend who told you that ? India currently controls jammu, kashmir valley, lah & siachen
which is 40,000 sq mi
Pakistan controls azad kashmir & gilgit baltistan which is close to 32,000 sq mi
while china controls the trans Karakorum track & the larger aksai chin & demchok area close to 16,500 sq mi

in fact India controls only 43 % of Kashmir (which is nowhere even near 2/3 ) while Pakistan controls 37 % & china the rest 20%

India claims the entire state of Jammu and Kashmir and as of 2010, administers approximately 43% of the region, including most of Jammu, the Kashmir Valley, Ladakh, and the Siachen Glacier. India's claims are contested by Pakistan, which controls approximately 37% of Kashmir, namely Azad Kashmir and the northern areas of Gilgit and Baltistan.

Kashmir conflict - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

here is the detailed map

Kashmir_2007

 

[Kambojaric]

1947 Invasion of Kashmir, which was conducted by Pakistani-backed tribal invaders is how the blame lies at Pakistan's door. States were given a date (which, if my memory serves right now, was somewhere in the middle of August), to choose whether they wished to secede to India or Pakistan, Kashmir chose neither and as that time-frame ended, it was de-facto independent.

I do accept the fact that Kashmiris on the Indian Side are treated more like cattle than people, and it's why I care for the well-being of the Pakistani state, but all aside, you cannot justify Pakistan's claim to Kashmir on the basis of atrocities and human rights violations. Political suppression still occurs in AJK/GB, and that is a fact.

Erm you do realize right that the tribals did not enter Kashmir before October right? By this time widespread massacres of Muslims had been committed by the Maharajah? Whilst I am in a hurry right now I will return later to show how the Maharajah had already decided that he would join India whilst keeping up a facade of an independent Kashmir(Prem Nath Bazaz reported this). For now the below links should help.

"There is evidence that from the outset regular troops and police in the State service joined informally and covertly, but enthusiastically, in these atrocities which, some have estimated, eventually resulted in the death of atleast 200,000 Muslims and drove twice as many into exile.

By the beginning of October the Jammu & Kashmir State authorities joined openly in this anti-Muslim policy by setting out to create along the State's border with Pakistan (in the region of Gujarat and Sialkot) a depopulated zone some three miles deep. Hindus here were evacuated. Muslims were either killed or driven across into Pakistan. On a number of occasions Jammu & Kashmir State Forces actually crossed over into Pakistan and destroyed villages there(well documented acts of Jammu & Kashmir State's "aggression" on its territory which Pakistan has signally failed to exploit in its arguments concerning the rights and wrongs of the Kashmir situation). Early in October British observers saw in one such village on the Pakistan side of the border no fewer than 1,700 corpses of slaughtered Muslim men, women and children. Before 22 October, a crucial date on the Kashmir story, the Pakistan authorities reported that at least 100,000 Muslim refugees from Jammu were being cared for in the neighbourhood of Sialkot. The Government in Karachi might talk about negotiations, but there was a growing body of opinion in Pakistan, particularly in the Punjab, which argued forcefully for more direct action to stop the killing."
Alastair Lamb, Incomplete Partition, Roxford 1997, p.128

Restlessness was universal. In Punch, where thousands of demobilized Muslim veterans live, an open armed rebellion broke out against the Maharaja and his administration. The rebellion spread rapidly to the adjoining area of Mirpur, where was veterans also lived in large numbers. Instead of realizing what he had done, the Maharaja egged on by Congress leaders and his new counsellors, dispatched the whole of the Dogra Army to quell the disturbances, or as one colonel put it, to reconquer the area. The army perpetrated unheard of atrocities on the people of Punch. Whole villages were burned down and innocent people were massacred. Reports reaching Srinagar were not allowed to be published in the Press. No official reports were issued to allay the fears of the public. This happened in September and the tribesmen did not enter the State before 23 October 1947.
Official Records of the United Nations Security Council, Meeting No:534, 6 March 1951, pp.3-4: (statements of Prem Nath Bazaz, a Hindu Kashmiri journalist)

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

Your nehra was a greedy man after getting stoned by people in KPK he occupied Kashmir.

If i give some sweets and few rupees to pashtun kids and youngsters, they would stone any one including figures like jinnah.