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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

Deliberately targetting a non-military target is a war crime.
Deliberately targetting a military target is in most cases not a war crime
Presence of a civilian in a military target does not make it a non-military target.
The Hamas operation is totally legal under Petraeus Iraq rules.

Unless you have inside information on Israeli target selection, this is just speculation.
No, you are speculating they didn't.

Did the Taliban use any hospitals for military activities?
It doesn't matter. There's no right to bomb a civilian building. You are justifying it contrary to you wanting "inside information" as proof as if it's necessary to disprove a wrong which you are trying to avoid. You are an annoying fuk in other words, contradicting yourself every sentence just for the sake of annoying others.

Hospitals with illegal military activity are legal targets if the activity is not stopped after a warning. We will know the truth about Hamas use of hospitals if/when Israel captures the main hospital.
No they aren't.

Noone sane takes pride in civilian casualties. Hamas as an organisation is collectively insane, and so is anyone supporting Hamas.
There are a number on the Israeli side as well.
It's not about pride. You're just trying to aid criminals.

Hamas operation was legal and they also gave themselves immunity.
 
Deliberately targetting a non-military target is a war crime.
Deliberately targetting a military target is in most cases not a war crime
Presence of a civilian in a military target does not make it a non-military target.
There is no Military Target in Palestine, according to Israel themselves Hamas is hiding under tunnels, and No Israel never shared any information or alleged Targets for Hamas, they are just bombing places and making cheap power point slides with some red or green highlighters to fool the world.

Israel asked people to move out.
And then proceed to bomb those who were fleeing, makes them crazy lunatics.

Unless you have inside information on Israeli target selection, this is just speculation.
I don't, and neither does Israel Govt, they have no information on location of Hamas, the only thing they know is that Hamas is in tunnels under Gaza, and every building they are bombing killed civilians, if there is a " Terrorist " in a building with 100 civilians than bombing that building is a War crime by every definition.

Did the Taliban use any hospitals for military activities?
Hospitals with illegal military activity are legal targets if the activity is not stopped after a warning. We will know the truth about Hamas use of hospitals if/when Israel captures the main hospital.
TTP fighters as I said use villages and caves, they do use civilian building such as mosques, and even have tunnels where they made IED's but again PAF did not drop bombs, Ask anyone who knows about Operations in Wazirstan specially in Mir Ali and close by areas, there was fights in every street and every corner. But you missed my point, If there is a hospital which civilians are using (Actively) then few Terrorists came in for some treatment that does not make that Hospital a legitimate Target, at least not for any decent Human being, Can't say for Israel and their European Allies.
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here is the inside of the same building..
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Here is another look of goodie they found inside the compound or building which in itself is a small market...
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This picture and building in background is a small market area, If you watched the full video, a Officer took Journalist on a tour of inside of this building underneath were IED factory, shells and all sorts of Material for making suicide jackets, it would be so much easier for PAF to just drop a bomb on it and be done with it, but look at the building and its pretty much intact, if you see other pictures the whole road has seen some destruction but houses and buildings were standing, as I said PA fought hard for every street and every house and every corner, because as I mentioned despite PA fault they are not Barbaric Genocidal scums like Zionists.

Noone sane takes pride in civilian casualties. Hamas as an organisation is collectively insane, and so is anyone supporting Hamas.
There are a number on the Israeli side as well.
Israeli's sure does, there are videos in this very thread where Zionists are celebrating, mocking and even asking for more civilian and children deaths.
 

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EU condemns Hamas for using 'hospitals as human shields'


Israel has provided a wealth of evidence documenting Hamas's use the facilities as shields and the tunnels under them as hideouts

The European Union on Sunday condemned Hamas for using "hospitals and civilians as human shields" in Gaza.




We call on Hamas to immediately & unconditional release all hostages.We condemn the use of hospitals and civilians as human shields by Hamas. Civilians must be allowed to leave the combat zone. Hostilities are severely impacting hospitals & taking a horrific toll on civilians.


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There is no Military Target in Palestine,

Hamas and all their weapons and installations including tunnels are military targets.

according to Israel themselves Hamas is hiding under tunnels, and No Israel never shared any information or alleged Targets for Hamas, they are just bombing places and making cheap power point slides with some red or green highlighters to fool the world.
There are plenty of tunnels.
I do not know where they are, and I doubt many here know where they are.
Israel has information about the network of tunnels. Their information may be incomplete or even wrong. They may bomb military targets or non-military targets, but only someone with inside information knows if they intend to bomb non-military targets.

And then proceed to bomb those who were fleeing, makes them crazy lunatics.


I don't, and neither does Israel Govt, they have no information on location of Hamas, the only thing they know is that Hamas is in tunnels under Gaza, and every building they are bombing killed civilians, if there is a " Terrorist " in a building with 100 civilians than bombing that building is a War crime by every definition.
There are no guidelines on proportionality. The worst mass shootings by a single guy with an assault rifle has caused 604 killed and wounded.
If you take out a house with such a guy, 100 civilian casualities being a war crime certainly is debatable.
Leaders planning assaults can cause thousands of casualities.


TTP fighters as I said use villages and caves, they do use civilian building such as mosques, and even have tunnels where they made IED's but again PAF did not drop bombs,
According to the article, the civilians were bombed by fighter jets.

Ask anyone who knows about Operations in Wazirstan specially in Mir Ali and close by areas, there was fights in every street and every corner. But you missed my point, If there is a hospital which civilians are using (Actively) then few Terrorists came in for some treatment that does not make that Hospital a legitimate Target,
Getting treatment for wounds, is not considered ”military activity”, and wounded soldiers and soldiers helping out transporting wounded are still OK.
Setting up a mortar and firing it, or a military headquarters would make the hospital legal game.


at least not for any decent Human being, Can't say for Israel and their European Allies.
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here is the inside of the same building..
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Here is another look of goodie they found inside the compound or building which in itself is a small market...
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This picture and building in background is a small market area, If you watched the full video, a Officer took Journalist on a tour of inside of this building underneath were IED factory, shells and all sorts of Material for making suicide jackets, it would be so much easier for PAF to just drop a bomb on it and be done with it, but look at the building and its pretty much intact, if you see other pictures the whole road has seen some destruction but houses and buildings were standing, as I said PA fought hard for every street and every house and every corner, because as I mentioned despite PA fault they are not Barbaric Genocidal scums like Zionists.
Pictures of a non-bombed area is not evidence that other areas were not bombed.

”Military officials said fighter jets were targeting only militant positions North Waziristan” in the article is evidence that Pakistan bombed.

Israeli's sure does, there are videos in this very thread where Zionists are celebrating, mocking and even asking for more civilian and children deaths.
Yes, and I consider them to be as insane as those in this thread that defends Hamas.
 
Al Qassam brigades, announced that they captured some high ranking nazi officer along his rats escort and took them to the tunnels safely, hope they will release video of it for confirmation as if it occurs as true that would be another huge blow to the attacking jew nazis forces.
 
Hamas and all their weapons and installations including tunnels are military targets.
And how many of them are Identified by IDF ? and how many of them were verified by independent sources ? Cause Israeli's are liars and everyone has seen it in past month.

There are plenty of tunnels.
I do not know where they are, and I doubt many here know where they are.
Israel has information about the network of tunnels. Their information may be incomplete or even wrong. They may bomb military targets or non-military targets, but only someone with inside information knows if they intend to bomb non-military targets.
Again, nothing but speculation, IDF has provided no evidence which are from neutral sources which can be verified about their claims. You Don't need inside information, their politicians and Military on ground are very vocal about their intentions.

There are no guidelines on proportionality. The worst mass shootings by a single guy with an assault rifle has caused 604 killed and wounded.
If you take out a house with such a guy, 100 civilian casualities being a war crime certainly is debatable.
Leaders planning assaults can cause thousands of casualities.
Again, its debatable for you or maybe for Israel but for any human being its not debatable, no civilized people will bomb a building full of civilians and kids and women just because a Terrorists/Mass shooter runs and hide in that building, nobody will send in fighter jets to drop bombs they will send Special forces, and even before that a time will be given to people to leave, a safe passage would be negotiated for kids women and elderly, Israel done none of that, you are just trying hard to justify their actions of bombing kids which is not surprising for me TBH.

Getting treatment for wounds, is not considered ”military activity”, and wounded soldiers and soldiers helping out transporting wounded are still OK.
Setting up a mortar and firing it, or a military headquarters would make the hospital legal game.
No, as I said no civilized society will allow bombing of a Hospital full of wounded civilians and kids, just because few Terrorists went in for some treatment, as for Setting up mortar, if that is related to Hamas, show me evidence of when Hamas has setup mortar inside any hospital compound which is been bombed by IDF almost everyday.

Pictures of a non-bombed area is not evidence that other areas were not bombed.

”Military officials said fighter jets were targeting only militant positions North Waziristan” in the article is evidence that Pakistan bombed.
Dude, Pakistan Military told local population to leave, that is why we had the highest IDP's in modern history, and those who were left or stayed behind were not indiscriminately bombed, as I said there are members here that will tell you how PA took every street, every corner , every village, every valley with intense fighting. If you want to discuss Pakistan's operations and bombing campaigns in Waziristan and other Tribal belt, open another thread and then will tag some of the members who have knowledge on this subject. But one thing I do know and its very clear that PAF did not bomb civilians to the same Magnitude as Israel is doing, Pakistan even if they wanted could not have done it because those people are Pakistani's, Israel's bombing of Gaza and Palestinians with no mercy is because they don't consider Palestinians as humans that's why its easy for them to just drop bombs on kids or women.
Yes, and I consider them to be as insane as those in this thread that defends Hamas.
Which include Bibi, Israel Defense minister and many more, so basically Israel govt is run by Insane people, that's what Palestinians and everyone who is sane is saying for a whole month.
 

"You Arab leaders, stay silent or I am gonna share the world with the dirt I have on you 😡" -- Courtesy of the child-killing, war criminal Bitchjamin Satanyahu.
The ONLY way out of this mess is people of arab/muslim countries topple their colonial era cronies from govts and make sure they stay under the pile of dirt forever. I don’t see any other way out of this.
Arab spring just made people fool.
 

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