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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023


Once Israel completes its "operation" in the Gaza strip, it will for sure turn its eye to Hezbollah. That is guaranteed for sure - the logic that they will use to occupy the Gaza strip be what they will use to attack and potentially occupy Lebanon aswell. The question for Hezbollah is do they enter the fray now and keep Israels forces divided, or do they wait to get the "full attention" of Israel ?
 
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What was the problem with the UN mandated area? Palestinians and Arabs caused trouble without reason.
Israel offered coexistence, initially.
Another Pajeet offering his service to Israel. So strange.

Lets talk about the UN 1947 Partition Plan:
  1. Virtually all the Jews in Palestine had been included within the area designated for the Jewish state, whereas hundreds of thousands of Arabs had been left outside "their" state
  2. Palestinians outnumbered Jews 2 to 1 at the time, despite the large war and post-war influx of Jewish refugees from Europe.
  3. Arabs made up at least 45% of the population of the proposed Jewish state (by contrast, Jews made up just 1% of the proposed Arab state) and indeed, a UN sub-committee considering the proposals argued that UNSCOP had used outdated population statistics, and that Arabs actually formed a slight majority in the proposed Jewish state.
  4. Furthermore, Zionist leaders made it clear that they saw their "acceptance" of the plan as merely temporary, until they could later expand - indeed, they had little faith the plan would actually come to pass, and already expected war.
  5. Arab leaders accepted the plan proposed by the 1939 White Paper, while the Zionists rejected it.
  6. Israel deliberately chose not to include a designation of its borders in the Declaration of Independence, believing it would block them from expanding to other areas, most notably Jerusalem.
In addition, the narrative that the Palestinians went to war with newly created Israel is false:

First, there was already a civil war raging in Palestine, and it had been for several months. Second, Israel's existence had been declared a matter of hours earlier, to the surprise of the Arab states, who had already made the decision to intervene.

In addition, Israel, at the time, lacked many of the criteria that define a state. For obvious reasons, it lacked international recognition, but more importantly, it had no defined territory (Israel's Declaration of Independence made no reference to the UNSCOP-proposed borders, or any others), which renders the idea of an "invasion" conceptually problematic at best, and meaningless or impossible at worst.

Lastly, IDF troops outnumbered Arab troops in the war.
 
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For those who supports occupiers and claiming moral high ground

These Jews are actually the modern day descendants of the Crusaders of 1000 years ago.

The European crusaders were such barbarians that when they captured Jerusalem in 1099 they slaughtered all the Muslims, Christians and Jews in the city. They were known for cannibalism, boasting of eating Muslims they killed.

These Jews of today are descendants of Ukrainians who converted to Judaism. They’re more closely related to the Crusaders of Europe than to the original Jews of Palestine. No wonder their morality is also similar.

They held Jerusalem for 88 years before being expelled. This occupation may not last much longer than that.
 
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What was the problem with the UN mandated area? Palestinians and Arabs caused trouble without reason.
Israel offered coexistence, initially.

Europe already persecuted them, and can't be trusted.

If Muslims manage to oust Israel from that region, no one will trust a Muslim with coexistence ever again.
Why in the first place israhell occupied Palestinian lands?
And israhell daily bombs Palestinian civilians in the world's largest open air prison. Nothing new
If you have so much sympathy with terrorist Zios give them land in your own backyard.
 
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People who are on both sides, its time to finally sit and bring some possible solutions to the table,
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which doesn't involved one party annihilating's the other.
okay
Lets hear some serious possible solutions to this problem.
why are you saying this rubbish only when Hamas started beating up Israel the same way Israel has been attacking Palestinians for decades? your timing is sketchy- its time for battlefield activities because Israel never listens to Palestinians or negotiates in good faith with them.

US and Israeli mistakes and policies in the past few years have led to a HUGE increase in Iranian influence and power in the region and world.
 
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Once Israel completes its "operation" in the Gaza strip, it will for sure turn its eye to Hezbollah. That is guaranteed for sure - the logic that they will use to occupy the Gaza strip be what they will use to attack and potentially occupy Lebanon aswell.
If Israel does attempt to occupy Gaza, it will hardly have enough resources and manpower to uphold their apartheid regime in the occupied West Bank and then to invade and attempt to occupy Lebanon.

They tried that in 2006 already, and we saw how that went.
 
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My only point is... What hamas is doing, people are here celebrating.

Do they believe that hamas can win against israel?

Or proxies of iran?

People are here celebrating as innocent people are being rape or killed by hamas.

They don't understand and realise that they can't win. So who will be paying the cost?

Now israel will go flush flesh against those people including Palestinian. I can see many casualties are coming and no one will physically gonna to help Palestinian.

All those are celebrating, will be crying the name of humanity.

If israel kills any Palestinian, that is terrorism for me , the same way, hamas kills any innocent israel, they are also terrorism for me.

This is a very sad incident...

whoever calls Hamas terrorists, let their own mama, papa, sisters and kids be incarcerated in the very same degraded conditions as Palestinians are now for at least couple of decades then ask these so called humanity peace preachers if they wanna be in same conditions or fight back! ?????
 
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No, it doesn't. And to whatever extent it does, its not something new--you can go back to the 1970s if you want to.
But the world knows better and that's why in UNGA votes, a large majority of countries vote for the Palestinians and thats why the non-compromised foreign policies of the Scandinavian countries show strong support for the Palestinians.
For the Palestinians,not for Hamas and Jihad.
 
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If Israel does attempt to occupy Gaza, it will hardly have enough resources and manpower to uphold their apartheid regime in the occupied West Bank and then to invade and attempt to occupy Lebanon.

They tried that in 2006 already, and we saw how that went.
They have started Ground invasion of Gaza
Armored Divisions are moving towards Gaza
 
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Imagine, who trained these boys ..they failed the whole Israeli intelligence network. The level of sophistication is increasing day by day. Isreal who sells software and hardware to spy on.. eavesdropping equipment to everyone....
 
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Also there is a lot of waste in how money is spend by all levels of government in the US. As long as the US dollar is the reserve currency of the world, it basically has a free pass to spend approx. $800 billion a year at the world’s expense (like an investor that own’s a share of everyone else’s economy). By comparison look at the UK. The pound was once the global reserve currency and now that they don’t have it, they are vulnerable to economic trends like any other nation.
Yes, that works until the Dollar is the only real trade current used. But after BRICS agreement many users are passing to other curriencies and even payment system (currently in development). Everybody see this, oh well, just China, India, Russia, Brazil and South Africa... (and after it Iran and many other countries).

US Economy won´t live forever with a credit card. Time will show.
 
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