Future at stake: UoP stops degrees for Afghan students

[Pandora]

foriegn students constitute a large portion of revenue in western countries be it usa , uk australia or even china . we should treat them as foriegn students and also encourage them to study here and try to win their hearts and minds by dialogue like india is doing . our loss is their gain
I can relate to this as the n difference ieducation system of sind and punjab, in punjab for medical studies there is a centralised system and u are placed according to merit m so students get shuffled a student from khanpur goes to pindi and a lahori goes to multan , they have student hostels where different students bof different backgrounds ie regions air out their differences or have a dialogue . On the other hand medical admission in sind is regional students of karachi will be placed in khi etc so they dont have the benefit of dialogue with interior sind students


totally agree with u


these are reserved quota seats where they only pay pakistani students equivalent fee , we should let more international students entry where they pay imore fees

No they said it is quota for afghan students who have got POR. Article clearly stateS rest of them used fake Pakistani CNIC.

 

[Clutch]

This is a new low even by Pakistani standards..I was about to write a detailed comment but for who...the low IQ people are cheering this as if they have achieved something while this is a defeat...Even USA does not close its doors for even for Russian students...but ...really i have no words...I would ask these kids that don't cry if tomorrow and USA and west close their doors for our students...by the way all the people who declare USA total evil (satan akbar) should not go or send their dears ones for studying in USA.

We are taking about fraud... it would be akin to a Pakistani applying for university in the usa with a fake green card or citizenship ... grasp the issue before declaring "new lows" ...

 

[abdulbarijan]

Like in the opening post there are two dimensions in which we can see this particular issue .. First of all, let's hope that a bias-free investigation is carried out that establishes facts because as of now, we only have the statements of the student and the university.

-Now in the case that the student version of things is correct, they should be awarded the degrees, however repatriated immediately because by admission they don't have any passport or POR. As far as creating a pool of highly educated people and using them to our advantage, well we literally have an education crisis at hand where only 56% of our population is educated. So, I wouldn't mind if the educated individuals who are repatriated come back through the proper channels and assume teaching positions or other jobs. In addition, strict action should be taken against the people who admitted them without any CNIC/passport/POR.

-The second case is that the statement of the university is correct. In that case all of these students should not be awarded degrees under ANY condition. They should be repatriated immediately, and should not be allowed entry in Pakistan, for a specified period of time -- because at the end of the day, what they committed was FRAUD. In addition, they also wasted opportunities for other foreign individuals who were coming through the proper channels. Lastly, much more stringent measures should be taken so that such cases are avoided.

 

[Star Wars]

You are closing down your universities to students who are willing to pay you to get in them ?...... well done......

 

[Hammad Arshad Qureshi]

I disagree with this. A student's education shouldn't be held hostage to politics and bureaucracy. If anything, Pakistan can use this as an excuse to keep educated minds inside Pakistan, and grow its knowledge banks.

I completely agree with you Sir But first right to avail the services of Government and less fee universities is of Pakistani students

You are closing down your universities to students who are willing to pay you to get in them ?...... well done......

Nope the university of Peshawar is a government university. And the fees are close of none or very minimal charges then the other private universities. And as per my opinion the students of Pakistan deserve the first right to obtain and avail such facilities before we start offering to foreign students

 

[GR!FF!N]

Thats a flawed admission policy,right??One should check Passports and other relevant documents during admission,not during issuing of certificates,right?

 

[tarrar]

There is no need to help traitor Afghanis & they should be treated like traitors.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

This won't be an issue of Afghan area was province of Pakistan, the university would be making $$$ by allowed education to increase in region

 

[Super Falcon]

well done UoP other universities should Follow....

Ganja kuch sharam kar kuch haya kar begairat

 

[coffee_cup]

This is a general practice in European countries that those refugees who are not accepted as such are not allowed to attend universities etc.

The article clearly says that foreign students are welcome in the university if they follow rules and regulations.

A fraud was detected and it must be corrected to discourage anyone in the future to do the same.

 

[mikkix]

I dont agree with that. Suppose if US, UK or australia does the same for us.

 

[coffee_cup]

I dont agree with that. Suppose if US, UK or australia does the same for us.

Try to get admission in a Western university on fraudent papers and then once it becomes known to the university, try to get a degree from there.

You'll be lucky if a criminal case is not made against you!

 

[litman]

why they were given admissions without proper documentation in the first place. there could be RAW and NDS agents among them.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Ganja kuch sharam kar kuch haya kar begairat

Kya kehna chahte ho ?? Why quoting me??

 

[maximuswarrior]

This is the result of years of negligence. We allowed an open border where anyone could come in and do as they wish. We are today reaping the rewards. Students with no ID. Inconceivable in any country. Still, a good thing the university at least woke up now.

I agree with UoP. Under no circumstances should an illegal person obtain a degree. This is against the law of the land. Sentiments and emotions need to be put aside. The law takes precedent. These individuals need to be tried in court of law. Instead some folks here are suggesting to reward the wrongdoers. No country on the planet would hand out degrees to students that don't posses legal documents for stay. They would be handed over to police for investigation.

You are closing down your universities to students who are willing to pay you to get in them ?...... well done......

They can go to India. Why do they even come to Pakistan when they hate it? After all, you claim to be their heroes.

I dont agree with that. Suppose if US, UK or australia does the same for us.

If you did the same thing you are also wrong and punishable.

Like in the opening post there are two dimensions in which we can see this particular issue .. First of all, let's hope that a bias-free investigation is carried out that establishes facts because as of now, we only have the statements of the student and the university.

-Now in the case that the student version of things is correct, they should be awarded the degrees, however repatriated immediately because by admission they don't have any passport or POR. As far as creating a pool of highly educated people and using them to our advantage, well we literally have an education crisis at hand where only 56% of our population is educated. So, I wouldn't mind if the educated individuals who are repatriated come back through the proper channels and assume teaching positions or other jobs. In addition, strict action should be taken against the people who admitted them without any CNIC/passport/POR.

-The second case is that the statement of the university is correct. In that case all of these students should not be awarded degrees under ANY condition. They should be repatriated immediately, and should not be allowed entry in Pakistan, for a specified period of time -- because at the end of the day, what they committed was FRAUD. In addition, they also wasted opportunities for other foreign individuals who were coming through the proper channels. Lastly, much more stringent measures should be taken so that such cases are avoided.

You have hit the nail on the head. This is exactly how it is. We cannot make exceptions or change the laws to accommodate these students from Afghanistan. The law is above emotions. It would be criminal to make an exception and set a bad precedent.

I only differ on handing out degrees and sending them back. The degrees shouldn't be awarded because the students aren't toddlers. They knew very well that they were committing an act against the law. They must face justice at all cost.