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Frustration over delay in CSF reimbursements

Pakistan loses $400m to ‘enhanced oversight’

ISLAMABAD: Over $400 million in reimbursement claims by Pakistan under Coalition Support Fund (CSF) for 2008 have been rejected by the United States because of new guidelines requiring ‘enhanced oversight and accountability’.

Total claims for 2008 were $1.4 billion, but Pakistan got $997 million in reimbursement, whereas the remaining claims were disallowed on grounds of “inadequate substantiation, over-billing” and other objections, sources told Dawn.

About $548 million were initially paid and the rest was deferred. It took the Pentagon another 18 months to settle the deferred claims. While paying $349 million last week in settlement of all claims from 2008, US officials reportedly tendered a callous excuse for the long delay: accounting problems.

Claims worth over $2 billion under CSF for 2009 are still pending because of intense scrutiny of Pakistan’s claims. After the cuts in payments for 2008, there are renewed fears in Islamabad that demands for last year would meet a similar fate.

The claims pertained to expenditures incurred by Pakistan on food and clothing of troops; fuel; transportation; communication; medical charges; helicopter operations; destroyed paraphernalia; and repair and maintenance of equipment. Under a bilateral agreement between ministries of defence, US repays ‘legitimate expenditures’ incurred in support of its military operations.

Pakistan’s senior military commanders, peeved at the ‘penny-pinching’ CSF reimbursement procedures, say these were distressingly impertinent to Pakistan’s over 30,000 casualties in the war on terror.

The problems in repayment have compelled Islamabad to consume its trivial reserves for continuing its logistic and operational support for American counter-terrorism operations while cutting on its own development needs and compromising its war preparedness, senior government officials and military officers suggested during background interviews.

BITTERNESS IN ISLAMABAD: The inordinate delays in clearing deferred amounts and linking of the issue by the US to issuance of visas to its diplomats and embassy staff have intensified frustration in Pakistan. The release of latest tranche was made possible only after Islamabad issued most of the requested visas.

“It is too cold-hearted of the US to stress on the money it gives to Pakistan, but disregard its sacrifices,” a military commander said. The Americans in every interaction try to make their Pakistani interlocutors realise that ‘they were doing great favour to Pakistan’, he added.

About 2,500 Pakistani soldiers lost their lives in the war on terror while another 8,000 were injured, many of them crippled and maimed for life. Additionally, some 22,000 civilians were killed or injured by militants.

“Pakistan has suffered more casualties than the combined tally for troops from 43 countries fighting in Afghanistan,” another general noted, adding the government had to compensate the families of those killed or injured and look after their welfare.

“In those terms, this huge casualty figure for civilians and military men translates into massive economic burden on government’s treasury.”

Another senior official said Washington was indifferent to these realities and saw CSF only as a generous military support programme and an incentive for keeping Pakistan armed forces out on American counter-terrorism mission.

Additionally, Pakistan’s road infrastructure has begun crumbling because of heavy equipment and supplies for US operations in Afghanistan shipped from Karachi to Chaman and Torkham border. About 58,000 heavy US containers, government figures show, were ferried through Pakistan without any charge.

There had been little acknowledgement of Pakistan’s support for logistics, a senior officer looking after the security of shipments regretted, adding that the focus had been on terrorist attacks on US consignments passing through Pakistani territory.

Sharing statistics on US losses because of those attacks, he said they were as low as 0.1 per cent of the total volume of goods carried through Pakistan.

Feelings of resentment in the army, analysts believe, are serious for US strategists because their success in Afghanistan critically depends on wholehearted support of Pakistan military.

US Ambassador Anne W. Patterson, in a statement, looked forward to working closely with Islamabad for reconciling outstanding CSF claims for 2009. She attributed the delays to inability of the embassy personnel, engaged in processing the payments, to obtain Pakistani visas or get them extended.

US repays ‘legitimate expenditures’ incurred in support of its military operations. Pakistan’s senior military commanders, peeved at the ‘penny-pinching’ CSF reimbursement procedures, say these were distressingly impertinent to Pakistan’s over 30,000 casualties in the war on terror.

The problems in repayment have compelled Islamabad to consume its trivial reserves for continuing its logistic and operational support for American counter-terrorism operations while cutting on its own development needs and compromising its war preparedness, senior government officials and military officers suggested during background interviews.


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:pop:What a shame our army is really serious and there is no support from USA ... same old red tape ...what else is new

If we just get 80 helicopters and some funds to support our army we can crush talibans in their own afghanistan
 
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Wrong time to be holding back Pakistan needs to get full funds and more funding ....

Support is needed ...80 helicopters and funds 4-5 billion to crush taliabans now is wrong time to hold funds back ...

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Wrong time to be holding back Pakistan needs to get full funds and more funding ....

Support is needed ...80 helicopters and funds 4-5 billion to crush taliabans now is wrong time to hold funds back ...

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Pakistan is going after only Pakistan Taliban which is danger to pakistan.
But Pakistan has not shown full hearted willingness against Afghan Taliban.

Pakistan is fighting war for its servival...............America is doing as much it can....................USA killed Baitullah and Hakimullah..............and have took down many TTP leaders.

TTP is not headache of USA its of Pakistan.
 
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Have you checked this board before posting this article? There's a thread with this article attached as a post and already an additional thread started in PAKISTAN'S WAR.

You make the third thread on the same topic and the third time this article has now been posted. Please be responsible in generating new threads needlessly unless you personally need the attention.

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:pop:What a shame our army is really serious and there is no support from USA ... same old red tape ...what else is new

If we just get 80 helicopters and some funds to support our army we can crush talibans in their own afghanistan

There are some issues coming from US law makers.


The new requirements have made it difficult.

Lets see
 
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USA killed Baitullah and Hakimullah..............and have took down many TTP leaders.
But Sir, Pakistan has already done its part by arresting the 2nd commander of Taliban,and many other leaders. is'nt that something too?

Pakistan is going after only Pakistan Taliban which is danger to pakistan.
But Pakistan has not shown full hearted willingness against Afghan Taliban.

Pakistan's hands are full, because of the Afghan war, many Taliban have translocated themselves to the mountains of Pakistan, and its unfair to say Pakistan is not doing its job, because its already trying to eliminate the Taliban from its soil using the mountains as a safe heaven.

You also have to understand Pakistan's battered economy. We were happily on our own as the 2nd fastest growing economy, until all this happened, and resulted in loss of35 billion USD in economy.

So even this 2 Billion USD claim is nothing than our higher losses, and even if you can pay this 35 Billion USD, it is still unable to compensate the lives of the civilians, our most precious resource.,Pakistan alone has sacrificed more people on this WoT than NATO and USA compared together.

So sir, I suggest, you try to look this in Pakistan point of view.

For example, If your house, and your very good neighbor's house was on fire, who house would you put out the fire first?I am sure you know the answer to this.

Another example is that, if a baby and her Mother was drowning, in Human psychology, a mother would always try to save herself first then attend to her baby. This is what Pakistan is doing. So to conclude this, to say Pakistan is not helping USA enough, is totally unfair and bias.

PS: I am not complaining that USA have not helped us much, but I am particularly defending that Pakistan has done its best to eliminate this Taliban
 
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Well its 400 million dollar it deserves 400 million threads , thats unpaid dues , (need to call collectors to chase down ppl)

We would take t(40) A-10 that are sitting on boneyards , for 400 million dollar which is left unpaid amount etc or F16 , but if that is not possible we need the cash kindly as we used that up to fight the war on madness

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Fair trade
 
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Follow the rules until you get a clarification. Until then, you only make matters worse.

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But Sir, Pakistan has already done its part by arresting the 2nd commander of Taliban,and many other leaders. is'nt that something too?

wasnt that a joint operation??



Pakistan's hands are full, because of the Afghan war, many Taliban have translocated themselves to the mountains of Pakistan, and its unfair to say Pakistan is not doing its job, because its already trying to eliminate the Taliban from its soil using the mountains as a safe heaven.

well Jordon is also fighting with Al aeada at its land.
They are not making such demands for money etc.
Also it is responsiblity of country to prevent its area to be used for unlawful terror activities.
So whats new Pakistan is doing.................Trying to gain back its lost area .......................Pakistan is helping herself

You also have to understand Pakistan's battered economy. We were happily on our own as the 2nd fastest growing economy, until all this happened, and resulted in loss of35 billion USD in economy.

Whoes fault is this???
There was a Interview of General Musharraf in which he said army used money of US to build arsenal against neighbouring country
 
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If pakistan is fighting its own war then they should stop calling the others to do more. if the gov of pak and army is fighting the americans' war then i am amazed to see why pakistanis dont call for a jihad against their gov.
 
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wasnt that a joint operation??

Joint or not, at least Pakistan cooperated with USA right?Furthermore if that is not enough for you, there are many threads especially on Pakistan war, in which Pakistan captured other military commanders.
Whoes fault is this???
There was a Interview of General Musharraf in which he said army used money of US to build arsenal against neighbouring country

Think again, do you think the money we recieved during the Musharraf regime was more or equivalent to 35B USD?NO! It wasn't.And even so, it is still not related to the fact that WoT has caused major damage to Pakistan economy



well Jordon is also fighting with Al aeada at its land.
They are not making such demands for money etc.


How many suicide attacks do you see in Jordan than in Pakistan. Who suffered the most?How badly affected was Jordan economy because of Al Qaeda?
Also it is responsiblity of country to prevent its area to be used for unlawful terror activities.
So whats new Pakistan is doing.................Trying to gain back its lost area .......................Pakistan is helping herself

True, Pakistan is helping herself, and helping USA at the same time, by preventing the use of the Mountain areas as safe havens, so please, if you think Pakistan hasn't done enough think again.
 
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