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From Russia With Love? China vs. India Carrier Showdown

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Difference is India got a rusty, obsolete carrier...

if you want to talk about rust....you should see what the chinese got :cheesy:

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well we r also building this, if u like it plss do tell us, coz we need ur permission before induction.
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Can you share with us the recently delay with the construction of this ACC? Is it 18months or 2 years?
 
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if you want to talk about rust....you should see what the chinese got :cheesy:

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yea, we got this at price of 20million$ as scrap metal, how much India got from Russia??
 
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Have you ever wondered why your country is militarily isolated , no country want to sell military hardware for you guys ??? have you ever pondered ???

Its because you steal their technology , reverse engineer it , pirate it and sell it as your own ..... ask the Russians and Israelis what they got for trusting you ...

WHere as country like India legally buys the license pays the royalties and manufactures it in our facilities unlike you !!!

Now you play the Victim card ... LMAO :hitwall:
kid, international affair isnt like kintergarden relationships like simpleton Indian can imagine``China faces western embargo since day 1 (1949,Oct,10), I dont think west were worried about we 'copy' their carrier, jets or tanks when couldnt even make a reliable rifle (much like current India's capability)``

and it is even funnier to say India 'respect' IP laws`lol``how clueless you sound, you are no better than China in this field```but because your tech capability is so primitive and dont pose any threat to western's high tech dominance so they dont give any fuss about you```

your Arjun, INSAS, LCA and many others are well proves of failed western copies

yea, we got this at price of 20million$ as scrap metal, how much India got from Russia??
raped cluelessly by Russia as usual
 
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kid, international affair isnt like kintergarden relationships like simpleton Indian can imagine``China faces western embargo since day 1 (1949,Oct,10), I dont think west were worried about we 'copy' their carrier, jets or tanks when couldnt even make a reliable rifle (much like current India's capability)``

and it is even funnier to say India 'respect' IP laws`lol``how clueless you sound, you are no better than China in this field```but because your tech capability is so primitive and dont pose any threat to western's high tech dominance so they dont give any fuss about you```

your Arjun, INSAS, LCA and many others are well proves of failed western copies


raped cluelessly by Russia as usual
Well said... KinderGarten Kid!!:lol:
We all know what capabilities you are talking of. Its like saying I got good marks coz I can cheat better,:)
 
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What show down? The Chinese carrier is much larger, and the new ones will be equipped with catapult. The J-15 is not perfect but its range and weapon load beat the mig-29k by miles.
 
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What show down? The Chinese carrier is much larger, and the new ones will be equipped with catapult. The J-15 is not perfect but its range and weapon load beat the mig-29k by miles.
*Sigh* Why are we comparing carriers of different class, of which Shi Lang wouldn't even have any fighters. heck the J 15 isn't even developed yet!!!
let the situation mature, then we can have a good discussion................
 
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What show down? The Chinese carrier is much larger, and the new ones will be equipped with catapult. The J-15 is not perfect but its range and weapon load beat the mig-29k by miles.
Can you support the Catapult claim ???
 
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What show down? The Chinese carrier is much larger, and the new ones will be equipped with catapult. The J-15 is not perfect but its range and weapon load beat the mig-29k by miles.

S China with NO experience whatsoever of carrier ops/design and NO freinds willing to share such info is going to be able to produce a catapult system for its carrier which is INCREDIBLY complex and took the US close to a decade to perfect (and even then the system they produced in the early days was very rudimentary, the systems they have no are the product of decades of refinement). And similarly with 0 experience in designing carrier-borne fighters China is going to jump in at the deep-end and design a CATOBAR fighter which involves incredible amounts of experiences and know-how to do and with no freinds and no experience to draw on I can't see how they can do it anytime soon.


If what you say is true then the PLA(N) shouldn't expect their ACC before 2025 and the fighter much later. Carrier aviation/design is incredibly complex and one of the most complicated and arduous tasks a nation can undertake and I doubt even the "omnipotent" Chinese will be able to master this anytime soon.
 
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Varyag is actually a militarized casino meant for the CPC elites.. I bet PLAN won't even place it in scs .. and much farther than vietnamese waters coz they got PJ-10s now ;)
 
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What show down? The Chinese carrier is much larger, and the new ones will be equipped with catapult. The J-15 is not perfect but its range and weapon load beat the mig-29k by miles.

Seriosly have you even bothered to read the article???? Its not only about the tonnage of the ship! expl:if the Vikramaditya is attacked in the South China sea, she is going to be hacked. If Shi Lang is attacked in the Bay of Bengal, its the other way round.
Other factors are training, tactics and experience, in which India is leading since we used carriers for over 60 yrs
 
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