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Why are Europeans whining over Erdogan and Turkish referendum results like this?

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French professor calls to "assassinate" Erdogan

Philippe Moreau Defarges says killing Turkey's president in the context of a civil war would be a legitimate way to remove him from power.

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A French political scientist has caused outrage in Turkey after calling for the assassination of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on live television.

Professor Philippe Moreau Defarges, a researcher at the French Institute of International Relations (IFRI), suggested the method after Erdogan-backed constitutional reforms were approved by the the Turkish public in a referendum last week.

The referendum paved the way for Turkey to transform its parliamentary system to a presidential system, having gained 51.4 percent of the votes.

Defarges said on French broadcaster BFM on Saturday that Erdogan's strengthened powers would lead "only to catastrophe".

"There will either be a civil war or another scenario... his assassination," he said.

Speaking on French broadcaster BFM, Defarges also insisted that the assassination of Erdogan in the context of a civil war would be a legitimate move.


Following his comments, many Turkish citizens living in France tweeted that they were going to launch complaints to the relevant authorities.

Defarges was criticised by Feiza Ben Mohamed, the ex-spokesman of the Federation of Muslims of the South of France, who tweeted that the former French diplomat’s call was “an incitement to a terrorist attack, no more and no less.”

International law professor Masut Hakki Casin told TRT that Defarges’ comments were “a crime” against both UN and EU legal agreements.

He also called on the French authorities to launch an investigation, pointing out that Germany also started legal proceedings for a similar incident last year when a German satirist insulted the Turkish president on a state broadcaster.

“If the French state does not act on this professor, in the future whenever there are attacks targeting President Erdogan, the French state will be held accountable under international law,” Casin said.

Casin asked if Defarges would use the same language if French far-right politician Marine Le Pen won the French presidential elections, or if the same solution would be proposed to prevent the Brexit.

“Calling for the assassination of a president who was democratically elected is very dangerous,” he added.

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NOTE- Defarges later apologized on Sunday after several complaints were also made on social media and to the French Radio and Television Supreme Council.

"On Saturday, April 22, I was invited to '7 Days in the World' [BFM Business] to discuss my views on the situation in Turkey. Some of my statements were inappropriate and misunderstood," Defarges tweeted in his message in French.

"I want to express my deepest sadness and sincerely apology to the people and groups I might have hurt. My words are not binding to IFRI in any way and are completely personal," his tweet read

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I'm going to say "none of the above" with regard to your poll question.

It's business as usual as far as Europe and Turkey are concerned.

Money talks and economics trumps everything else.

Turkey's economy depends on the West.

Nothing has really changed.
 
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Killing Erdoğan, civil war is solution for Turkey, French professor says
DAILY SABAH
ISTANBUL
Published April 23, 2017
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One of Turkey's options to get rid of President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is to get him assassinated, Philippe Moreau Defarges, a professor and former diplomat, said during a TV program after Turkey's presidential referendum that resulted in a 'Yes' vote.

The scandalous remarks of the Defarges, aired on French broadcaster BFM, also suggested that a civil war would be another option to assassinating Turkey's president.

When the host of the program said an assassination can not be legitimized due to a political 'crisis', Defarges tried to justify his argument, claiming that similar situations have been observed history.

Defarges also said Turkey would not become an EU member even if it signed an accession deal since each EU member state would need to approve it.

Turkish people have called for a formal apology after Philippe Moreau Defarges made the controversial speech.

A large number of Turks living in France asked for an apology from the French Institute of International Relations and the TV channel that hosted Defarges.

Several complaints were also made on social media and to the French Radio and Television Supreme Council.

https://www.dailysabah.com/europe/2...-is-solution-for-turkey-french-professor-says

Unbelievable. I hope this isn't the opinion of the majority in France.
 
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Killing Erdoğan, civil war is solution for Turkey, French professor says
DAILY SABAH
ISTANBUL
Published April 23, 2017
363

One of Turkey's options to get rid of President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is to get him assassinated, Philippe Moreau Defarges, a professor and former diplomat, said during a TV program after Turkey's presidential referendum that resulted in a 'Yes' vote.

The scandalous remarks of the Defarges, aired on French broadcaster BFM, also suggested that a civil war would be another option to assassinating Turkey's president.

When the host of the program said an assassination can not be legitimized due to a political 'crisis', Defarges tried to justify his argument, claiming that similar situations have been observed history.

Defarges also said Turkey would not become an EU member even if it signed an accession deal since each EU member state would need to approve it.

Turkish people have called for a formal apology after Philippe Moreau Defarges made the controversial speech.

A large number of Turks living in France asked for an apology from the French Institute of International Relations and the TV channel that hosted Defarges.

Several complaints were also made on social media and to the French Radio and Television Supreme Council.

https://www.dailysabah.com/europe/2...-is-solution-for-turkey-french-professor-says

Unbelievable. I hope this isn't the opinion of the majority in France.

A case was open against him...

And no it is not the opinion of the majority of French ppl.. tbh the "killing" thing come to almost no one when speaking about Erdogan.
 
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No most people don't like Erdogan but they don't want to kill him.


liberty.....the French way. no wonder france hasn't won a war since Napoleon.

You are right we haven't won ONE we have won many ...


1823 Battle of Trocadero
The French defeat the Spanish.

1827 Battle of Navarino - October 20th
A coalition force of French, British, Irish, Italian, Belgium, United States, Dutch and Russian forces defeat the Ottoman Empire and Egypt in this large-scale sea battle.

1830 Invasion of Algeria
French forces invade and conquer the North African country of Algeria.

1854 Battle of Balaclava - October 25th
A coalition of French, British and Turkish troops defeat Russia during this Crimean War engagement

1855 Battle of Malakoff
French forces help in overtaking the Russians.

1859 Battle of Solferino
The French are victorious over the Austrians.

1863 Battle of Camaron - April 30th
The French Foreign Legion become legendary as 62 soldiers stave off complete elimination against a Mexican Army force of some 2,000 strong. After their showing, the two remaining French survivors are granted safe passage by the Mexican commander in respect to their battlefield conduct.

1884 Battle of Foochow
French navy forces destroy the Chinese navy.

1914 Togoland - August 26th
A Franco-British force successfully invades the German West African protectorate of Togoland.

1914 First Battle of the Marne - September 5th-10th
A Franco-British (largely French) force led by Joseph Joffre and John French defeat Germany led by Helmuth von Moltke and Karl von Bulow.

1914 First Battle of the Aisne - September 12th-15th
French and British troop actions end in a draw with the Germans.

1914 Battle of Ypres - October 19th-November 22nd
French and British forces gain a victory against Germany.

1914 Battle of Champagne
France earn a draw against Germany.

1915 Third Battle of Artois - September 15th-November 4th
France and Britain earn a draw against Germany and Crown Prince Rupprecht.

1916 Battle of Verdun
Casualties mount on both sides but French forces ultimately push back the German tide.

1916 Battle of the Somme - July 1st-November 18th
The battle, like many others in World War I, results in a draw between French and German forces.

1918 Second Battle of the Marne
A French-led force beats back the German advance with help from British, Italian and American forces.

1918 Third Battle of the Aisne - May 27th-June 6th
French, British and American forces halt the German advance.

1918 Battle of Belleau Wood - June 1st-26th
France, Britain and the United States led by John J. Pershing and James Harbord are victorious over the German Empire and Crown Prince Wilhelm.

1918 Battle of Chateau-Thierry - July 18th
The combined French and American force (largely American) succeeds in taking the Germans by surprise.

1918 Battle of Amiens - August 8th-11th
French, British, Canadian and Australian forces are victorious over Germany.

1922 Battle of Maysalun
French forces rout the Syrian army.

2002 Mission Unicorn (Operation Licorne)
A French peace-keeping force is sent to the Ivory Coast under the flag of the UN during the Ivorian Civil War. A short-lived "peace" is established.

2003 Cote d'Ivoire - January
French peace-keeping forces of the United Nations succeed in stabilization of lawless western border.

2011 Libyan Intervention - Operation Harmattan
French aircraft, as part of a NATO contingent, fly strike missions against the Army of al-Gaddafi in enforcement of a "No-Fly Zone" designed to protect Libyan civilians.

2013 Malian Intervention - Operation Serval (Ongoing)
A French military operation involving combined air and ground elements in support of the Mali government against Islamic militant forces attempting to gain control of the country.
 
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No most people don't like Erdogan but they don't want to kill him.




You are right we haven't won ONE we have won many ...


1823 Battle of Trocadero
The French defeat the Spanish.

1827 Battle of Navarino - October 20th
A coalition force of French, British, Irish, Italian, Belgium, United States, Dutch and Russian forces defeat the Ottoman Empire and Egypt in this large-scale sea battle.

1830 Invasion of Algeria
French forces invade and conquer the North African country of Algeria.

1854 Battle of Balaclava - October 25th
A coalition of French, British and Turkish troops defeat Russia during this Crimean War engagement

1855 Battle of Malakoff
French forces help in overtaking the Russians.

1859 Battle of Solferino
The French are victorious over the Austrians.

1863 Battle of Camaron - April 30th
The French Foreign Legion become legendary as 62 soldiers stave off complete elimination against a Mexican Army force of some 2,000 strong. After their showing, the two remaining French survivors are granted safe passage by the Mexican commander in respect to their battlefield conduct.

1884 Battle of Foochow
French navy forces destroy the Chinese navy.

1914 Togoland - August 26th
A Franco-British force successfully invades the German West African protectorate of Togoland.

1914 First Battle of the Marne - September 5th-10th
A Franco-British (largely French) force led by Joseph Joffre and John French defeat Germany led by Helmuth von Moltke and Karl von Bulow.

1914 First Battle of the Aisne - September 12th-15th
French and British troop actions end in a draw with the Germans.

1914 Battle of Ypres - October 19th-November 22nd
French and British forces gain a victory against Germany.

1914 Battle of Champagne
France earn a draw against Germany.

1915 Third Battle of Artois - September 15th-November 4th
France and Britain earn a draw against Germany and Crown Prince Rupprecht.

1916 Battle of Verdun
Casualties mount on both sides but French forces ultimately push back the German tide.

1916 Battle of the Somme - July 1st-November 18th
The battle, like many others in World War I, results in a draw between French and German forces.

1918 Second Battle of the Marne
A French-led force beats back the German advance with help from British, Italian and American forces.

1918 Third Battle of the Aisne - May 27th-June 6th
French, British and American forces halt the German advance.

1918 Battle of Belleau Wood - June 1st-26th
France, Britain and the United States led by John J. Pershing and James Harbord are victorious over the German Empire and Crown Prince Wilhelm.

1918 Battle of Chateau-Thierry - July 18th
The combined French and American force (largely American) succeeds in taking the Germans by surprise.

1918 Battle of Amiens - August 8th-11th
French, British, Canadian and Australian forces are victorious over Germany.

1922 Battle of Maysalun
French forces rout the Syrian army.

2002 Mission Unicorn (Operation Licorne)
A French peace-keeping force is sent to the Ivory Coast under the flag of the UN during the Ivorian Civil War. A short-lived "peace" is established.

2003 Cote d'Ivoire - January
French peace-keeping forces of the United Nations succeed in stabilization of lawless western border.

2011 Libyan Intervention - Operation Harmattan
French aircraft, as part of a NATO contingent, fly strike missions against the Army of al-Gaddafi in enforcement of a "No-Fly Zone" designed to protect Libyan civilians.

2013 Malian Intervention - Operation Serval (Ongoing)
A French military operation involving combined air and ground elements in support of the Mali government against Islamic militant forces attempting to gain control of the country.

All with strong allies fighting alongside or fighting backward poor colonies.

France has the tech and history, they need the spirit
 
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:cray: A muslim cleric would be administered for similar comment of inciting hate and killing

However in this case this is a very proper debate because it just happens to mention killing of a popular , Turkish Muslim Leader
 
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2002 Mission Unicorn (Operation Licorne)
A French peace-keeping force is sent to the Ivory Coast under the flag of the UN during the Ivorian Civil War. A short-lived "peace" is established.

2003 Cote d'Ivoire - January
French peace-keeping forces of the United Nations succeed in stabilization of lawless western border.

2011 Libyan Intervention - Operation Harmattan
French aircraft, as part of a NATO contingent, fly strike missions against the Army of al-Gaddafi in enforcement of a "No-Fly Zone" designed to protect Libyan civilians.

@Louiq XIV
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That's cute.. France is working hard for the humanity.
 
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A good example shows that education can't cure ignominy :)
The guy has instruction up to a University professor level, but he is not educated in life, so his education is almost nil.. he also contradicts himself when he talks about a regime change by violent means or even peaceful ones and also states that Turkey will never be part of the EU anyhow..I think he is not clear in his own mind.. he certainly thinks about the last referendum in Turkey, but what about these close %'s of votes in the French elections, would he be stupid enough to call for the assassination of the winner or a revolution to topple him if the results are too close..

No most people don't like Erdogan but they don't want to kill him.




You are right we haven't won ONE we have won many ...


1823 Battle of Trocadero
The French defeat the Spanish.

1827 Battle of Navarino - October 20th
A coalition force of French, British, Irish, Italian, Belgium, United States, Dutch and Russian forces defeat the Ottoman Empire and Egypt in this large-scale sea battle.

1830 Invasion of Algeria
French forces invade and conquer the North African country of Algeria.

1854 Battle of Balaclava - October 25th
A coalition of French, British and Turkish troops defeat Russia during this Crimean War engagement

1855 Battle of Malakoff
French forces help in overtaking the Russians.

1859 Battle of Solferino
The French are victorious over the Austrians.

1863 Battle of Camaron - April 30th
The French Foreign Legion become legendary as 62 soldiers stave off complete elimination against a Mexican Army force of some 2,000 strong. After their showing, the two remaining French survivors are granted safe passage by the Mexican commander in respect to their battlefield conduct.

1884 Battle of Foochow
French navy forces destroy the Chinese navy.

1914 Togoland - August 26th
A Franco-British force successfully invades the German West African protectorate of Togoland.

1914 First Battle of the Marne - September 5th-10th
A Franco-British (largely French) force led by Joseph Joffre and John French defeat Germany led by Helmuth von Moltke and Karl von Bulow.

1914 First Battle of the Aisne - September 12th-15th
French and British troop actions end in a draw with the Germans.

1914 Battle of Ypres - October 19th-November 22nd
French and British forces gain a victory against Germany.

1914 Battle of Champagne
France earn a draw against Germany.

1915 Third Battle of Artois - September 15th-November 4th
France and Britain earn a draw against Germany and Crown Prince Rupprecht.

1916 Battle of Verdun
Casualties mount on both sides but French forces ultimately push back the German tide.

1916 Battle of the Somme - July 1st-November 18th
The battle, like many others in World War I, results in a draw between French and German forces.

1918 Second Battle of the Marne
A French-led force beats back the German advance with help from British, Italian and American forces.

1918 Third Battle of the Aisne - May 27th-June 6th
French, British and American forces halt the German advance.

1918 Battle of Belleau Wood - June 1st-26th
France, Britain and the United States led by John J. Pershing and James Harbord are victorious over the German Empire and Crown Prince Wilhelm.

1918 Battle of Chateau-Thierry - July 18th
The combined French and American force (largely American) succeeds in taking the Germans by surprise.

1918 Battle of Amiens - August 8th-11th
French, British, Canadian and Australian forces are victorious over Germany.

1922 Battle of Maysalun
French forces rout the Syrian army.

2002 Mission Unicorn (Operation Licorne)
A French peace-keeping force is sent to the Ivory Coast under the flag of the UN during the Ivorian Civil War. A short-lived "peace" is established.

2003 Cote d'Ivoire - January
French peace-keeping forces of the United Nations succeed in stabilization of lawless western border.

2011 Libyan Intervention - Operation Harmattan
French aircraft, as part of a NATO contingent, fly strike missions against the Army of al-Gaddafi in enforcement of a "No-Fly Zone" designed to protect Libyan civilians.

2013 Malian Intervention - Operation Serval (Ongoing)
A French military operation involving combined air and ground elements in support of the Mali government against Islamic militant forces attempting to gain control of the country.

This is so very comical, it can not come from anyone else but a French.. in the list of battles you have provided, France fought against every one of its allies in other battles.. something to be proud of !!!?
 
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