France starts ban on full-face veil

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Seriously? You from Israel???

Has Israel baned that silly thing yet???

jewish women also wear tht silly thing.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Well, in my opinion, she definitely looks like a weirdo in secular world. I do not think even Turkey allows that in public places.

in real world ur a racist bigot who hates muslim.......

 

[ARSENAL6]

Seriously? You from Israel???

Has Israel baned that silly thing yet???

Whatever Country I'm from is irrelevant. Behind this Flag is more than just a simple silly Israeli Flag. Behind this Flag there is an idea:

- An idea where people live in peace and harmony.
- An idea where people respects others regardless of their race, origin, sex, religion, creed, culture, age and disability.
- An idea where people of this world are not afraid of its Government and Government official act like servants to the public.
- An idea where people are united against a common cause to rid themselves from evil that other greedy men take for granted (Ie the US govt., Free mason, Roth Child, Zionist, Illuminaty, knights templar society)
- An idea where no children around the world are orphans or left for dead or being disadvantage anywhere ...ever !
- An idea where every Muslim land has ridden-off from terrorist, dictators, criminals alike created by the west to control.
- An idea where US govt apologies to Native Americans, White Americans, Chinese, Afro-Americans, Japaneses, Vietnam, Arab and Muslim alike of all the atrocities that took place ever since the existence of the US.
- An idea where Palisteins and Naitive AMericans have given their land back or any confilct around the world including Kashmire.
- An idea when the real truths of JFK and 9/11 are told.
- An idea where the truth is known that the white house was built by black slavery.
- An idea where Muslim walk the lands free from abuse from racist Islmaphobes, are not question about their faith
and free to practice it whenever and wherever he/she pleases.
- An idea where the West especially the US and Israelis are free from their stooge Zionist control-freak govt.
- An idea where every Muslim women choose to wear whatever she wants and not be told by the STATE EVER !
- An idea where Israel stop its genocide against the Arab and Muslim people.
- An idea where Zionism ceased to exists and end its hate against Muslims around the world.
- An idea where the west stop enslaving women as sex slave by brain-washing them to wear sexy clothes and such.
- An idea where the west -propaganda poison media has met its ugly and satisfying end and truthfulness prevails and run across like gushing water around the world.
- An idea when whole of mankind together bow down fully - head to the ground, before the Creator of the Worlds the known and the Unknown, the Seen and the Unseen, Master of the Day of Judgement, Rahman, - YHWH(swt) , God(swt) , Allah(swt).


Its those ideas will set mankind free and Mr. "I want to be a white man" wannabe, ideas are bulletproof.

Further to your discussion certain Israeli has baned along side many racist islamophobic such as yourself on the burqa issue.


For those who support those ideas say Ameen to every and each point and pray for the arrival of Prophet Jesus(Pbuh). - God willing - INSHALLAH !

 

[fallstuff]

Seriously? You from Israel???

Has Israel baned that silly thing yet???

Pot calling the kettle black !!

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Seriously? You from Israel???

Has Israel baned that silly thing yet???

Learn how to spell, you illiterate.

 

[below_freezing]

Whatever Country I'm from is irrelevant. Behind this Flag is more than just a simple silly Israeli Flag. Behind this Flag there is an idea:

- An idea where people live in peace and harmony.
- An idea where people respects others regardless of their race, origin, sex, religion, creed, culture, age and disability.
- An idea where people of this world are not afraid of its Government and Government official act like servants to the public.
- An idea where people are united against a common cause to rid themselves from evil that other greedy men take for granted (Ie the US govt., Free mason, Roth Child, Zionist, Illuminaty, knights templar society)
- An idea where no children around the world are orphans or left for dead or being disadvantage anywhere ...ever !
- An idea where every Muslim land has ridden-off from terrorist, dictators, criminals alike created by the west to control.
- An idea where US govt apologies to Native Americans, White Americans, Chinese, Afro-Americans, Japaneses, Vietnam, Arab and Muslim alike of all the atrocities that took place ever since the existence of the US.
- An idea where Palisteins and Naitive AMericans have given their land back or any confilct around the world including Kashmire.
- An idea when the real truths of JFK and 9/11 are told.
- An idea where the truth is known that the white house was built by black slavery.
- An idea where Muslim walk the lands free from abuse from racist Islmaphobes, are not question about their faith
and free to practice it whenever and wherever he/she pleases.
- An idea where the West especially the US and Israelis are free from their stooge Zionist control-freak govt.
- An idea where every Muslim women choose to wear whatever she wants and not be told by the STATE EVER !
- An idea where Israel stop its genocide against the Arab and Muslim people.
- An idea where Zionism ceased to exists and end its hate against Muslims around the world.
- An idea where the west stop enslaving women as sex slave by brain-washing them to wear sexy clothes and such.
- An idea where the west -propaganda poison media has met its ugly and satisfying end and truthfulness prevails and run across like gushing water around the world.
- An idea when whole of mankind together bow down fully - head to the ground, before the Creator of the Worlds the known and the Unknown, the Seen and the Unseen, Master of the Day of Judgement, Rahman, - YHWH(swt) , God(swt) , Allah(swt).


Its those ideas will set mankind free and Mr. "I want to be a white man" wannabe, ideas are bulletproof.

Further to your discussion certain Israeli has baned along side many racist islamophobic such as yourself on the burqa issue.


For those who support those ideas say Ameen to every and each point and pray for the arrival of Prophet Jesus(Pbuh). - God willing - INSHALLAH !

So true. People like you give me hope in the Middle East. Hopefully, Israel will continue prospering. There is just so much hatred stirred up by the Wall Street regime, and many who benefit from this hatred are free to say their message, but those who oppose it are silenced.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

France may have banned the full face ban and there is outrage here.

It is good to see the Chinese supporting the same and why not?

However, just as an aside, it maybe interesting to note that in China, Islam is controlled and people below 18 are not allowed to have any religious education or go to the Mosque.

Therefore, it is fishing in troubled waters at best.

Islamism and the State

China maintains an intricate system of control over its Muslim minorities. China’s Islamic educational institutions, which span grades 1 through 12, are closely monitored by the region’s Commission on Religious and Ethnic Affairs (CREA), and its teachers and clergy are thoroughly vetted by the parallel Islamic Association to ensure they do not harbor extremist ideas or tendencies. As a practical matter, this has meant the creation of a series of state‐sponsored and tightly‐controlled religious schools for Chinese Muslims.38

Despite policies that give Uighurs preferential admission to China’s secular universities, there remains a lack of university-level Islamic education. China currently possesses no Islamic universities or upper level curricula in Islamic affairs.39 Those Muslims interested in becoming imams or religious leaders, therefore, must travel to established Islamic universities in the Middle East, such as Egypt’s al‐Azhar University, to complete their theological instruction. These educational institutions, however, have historically served as breeding grounds for Islamic extremism (al‐Azhar was the birthplace of the Muslim Brotherhood in the early 20th century) thus creating the potential for the radicalization of China’s Muslims in the last stage of their theological training.40

Foreign funds flowing to Islamic schools—historically a source of radicalization among Muslim communities in other parts of the world—are tightly controlled in China. Foreign funds for education in Muslim communities are channeled through CREA and the official Islamic Association, and the independent construction of mosques and religious schools is strictly prohibited.41 At the same time, the CPC supplies students’ textbooks, thereby controlling the content of what is taught in Muslim educational institutions. Like all students in China, in order to advance Muslims must reproduce answers that reflect history as described within officially approved texts.

Limits on religious activity likewise abound. Until the unrest of 2008-09 (described below), propaganda and education controls coupled with ample security appeared to have sufficiently mitigated Islamist activity within China’s Muslim communities. After widespread unrest in Xinjiang began, however, authorities sought to rigidly enforce laws and provisions that severely restrict the practice and teaching of Islam. These regulations, which had been on the books for years, were now publicly posted online and on banners throughout Xinjiang.42 Examples of policies that limit Islamic activity include:

Half-hour limits on sermons
Prohibition on prayer in public areas
Prohibitions on the teaching of the Koran in private
Restrictions on worship, with Muslims only permitted to attend their hometown mosques
Restrictions on the studying of Arabic to special government schools
Prohibitions on government workers and CPC members from attending mosque

Two of Islam’s five pillars—the sacred fasting month of Ramadan and the Hajj—are also carefully controlled in China. To reduce exposure to Islamist teachings, authorities use propaganda and control of passports to compel Muslims to join government-run Hajj tours rather than travel illegally to Mecca.43 Yet, policies that compel students and government workers to eat during the holy month of Ramadan have faced the most pushback. In 2007, one university in Kashgar forced students to eat during the day by locking its gates and putting glass shards atop the campus walls to prevent them from returning home after dark to break the daily fast.44

Similarly, China’s Muslims are systematically shut out of national (although not regional) politics. One major reason is that Han Chinese—even those with progressive tendencies toward constitutional democracy—often cannot see the difference between a politically active Uighur and a separatist.45

Until quite recently, China did not have a terrorism problem, at least not one as commonly understood in the West. Although low‐grade insurgent activity did unquestionably exist, regional law enforcement agencies appeared to have effectively neutralized Islamist radicals until 2008-9. While there was, and remains, no indication that radicals in Xinjiang enjoy widespread popularity in other parts of the country, the state’s increasingly tight controls on the practice of Islam and limits on speech and movement have engendered widespread frustration and anger among Muslims, Uighurs in particular. Building resentment of heavy-handed state intervention in religious life—not the insidious intervention of foreign influences, as Beijing claims—has solidified the separatist movement, given it grassroots support, and catalyzed a campaign of Uighur aggression against the state in 2008-9.

Although the details remain unclear, it appears that state repression of Islam was the catalyst for a wave of Uighur unrest including a variety of attacks against the Chinese authorities, military, and the Han citizenry that took place in the spring and summer of 2008. Between May and August 2008, Uighur separatists reportedly attacked police in Wenzhou using an explosive-laden tractor,46 bombed a Guangzhou plastic factory,47 and coordinated a series of deadly bus bombings in Shanghai and Kunming.48 These attacks culminated with two deadly terrorist attacks in early August 2008—the first involving an assault on police officers in Kashgar,49 and the second involving a series of 12 homemade pipe bombs that simultaneously hit a public security station, the industrial and commercial administrative office, a local department store, a post and telecommunications office and a hotel in the city of Kuqa.50

In response, Chinese authorities launched a series of countermeasures. In August 2008, hundreds of Uighurs were detained and thousands of paramilitary forces were deployed throughout Xinjiang. Police patrolled Kashgar’s Uighur neighborhoods, entering houses to check occupants' names against a government list.51 By the end of that month, approximately 200,000 police had been mobilized to “check and register” the transient Uighur population. Police swept hotel rooms, rental apartments, and remote villages for separatists and set up checkpoints between townships and villages.52 These enhanced security efforts reportedly uncovered 12 cells operating in Kashgar, resulting in 66 arrests; five cells in Urumqi, resulting in 82 arrests, and; the destruction of “41 training camps that had been engaged in illegal proselytizing and the training of jihadists.”53 The crackdown culminated in the reinstatement of the "10-household mutually insured system" in Kashgar and Khotan. Under that policy, if one person is found guilty of anti-state activities, the 10 neighboring families will also be held responsible.54

The state’s campaign targeting the “three evil forces” also led to greater emphasis on regulations restricting Islam by local governments within Xinjiang.55 The strict enforcement of laws designed to inhibit the practice and spread of Islam appears to have significantly eroded public support for the state and galvanized public anger and resentment into a force that extremists can manipulate. In this way, increased security measures have served to confirm Islamist claims about state repression. Indeed, almost 1,300 state security-related arrests were carried out in Xinjiang between January-November 2008, and about one-half of all trials in China related to the crime of endangering state security take place in Xinjiang.56

Beijing has long had a policy of encouraging Uighur migration to other parts of China in the hope that economic opportunities and intermarriage will gradually integrate Muslim Uighurs into secular Chinese society. Although the incidents that sparked the large-scale ethnic violence in July 2009 took place thousands of miles away in Shaoguan, Guangdong,57 the massive scale of the Uighur response in Urumqi reflected widespread public hostility towards the state’s tightened restrictions on Islamic activity. Thousands took to the streets on July 5th in an initially peaceful protest that turned violent against the state and ethnic Hans. The Han responded with their own wave of anti-Uighur violence and when the smoke cleared nearly 200 were dead and at least 1,680 injured, most of them Han.58

Soon after state security suppressed the Urumqi riots, authorities in Yining “smashed two violence gangs, and arrested more than 70 suspects,” according to Jiao Baohua, secretary of the Yining city CPC committee.59 In all, the Chinese state has implemented a series of new measures designed to prevent further violence. These steps entailed:

Increased security, including the deployment of thousands of armed police, special police, and public security personnel to patrol the Uighur sections of Xinjiang’s capital city, Urumqi, and carry out numerous raids;60 new city government ordinances calling on all local businesses and residents to register guests with the authorities;61 new traffic restrictions and a city-wide after dark curfew;62 harsh sentences for those involved in the riots;63 and manhunts for suspected Islamists.64
Expanded propaganda, including the initiation of “face-to-face interactions to explain the truth and expose the lies and sinister intentions of the hostile forces both at home and abroad, and preach the importance of nationality solidarity and stability”;65 the creation of Uighur working groups “to conduct intensive propaganda and educational work and to safeguard social stability”;66 and the deployment of some 2,100 more officials and police to communities in Urumqi “to explain government policies and solve disputes.”67
Improved information and financial controls, including the suspension of text-messaging and Internet services in Xinjiang between July 2009 and January 2010;68 and a region-wide effort by law enforcement agencies throughout 2009 to target the finances and properties of extremists and groups agitating for Uighur independence.69
Legal controls, including new restrictions on—and warnings to—lawyers,70 as well as death sentences for some rioters and harsh prison sentences for others.71
Investment: Investment injected from the central government and state-owned enterprises will help Xinjiang “realize fast-paced economic development." The central government has also paired up Chinese municipalities and provinces with different areas of Xinjiang to provide large amounts of capital, technology and talent. (The term “talent” may be a euphemism for “Han Chinese labor immigration,” a major source of irritation within the Uighur minority.)72
A reshuffle of governmental personnel, including the ouster of Urumqi's Communist Party Secretary, Li Zhi, and Xinjiang's regional police chief. Wang Lequan, the hard-line secretary of the CPC Committee of Xinjiang for 15 years and an ally of President Hu Jintao, came under unprecedented pressure but managed to retain his post until April 2010.73 He was finally transferred to Beijing and replaced with Zhang Chunxian, who as Party chief of Hunan province gained the reputation as a soft-liner.

Today Xinjiang remains a difficult place to practice Islam. A vicious cycle of repression and rebellion now exists whereby the state’s suppression of Islam continues to broaden the appeal of extremist Islamist ideologies among Uighurs.
Excerpt from:
China | The World Almanac of Islamism

 

[below_freezing]

Some Uighurs are nothing more than reverse racist skinheads who think they're white and not Chinese. They have both terrorist and Nazi influences, these Uighurs must be suppressed. However, the majority of Uighurs who think of themselves as Chinese citizens and not primarily as white Muslims

In addition, China has not banned Sharia. Sharia, intermixed with local traditions, is still practiced within the Uighur community, but certain cultural excesses are strictly prohibited, such as honor killings.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Some Uighurs are nothing more than reverse racist skinheads who think they're white and not Chinese. They have both terrorist and Nazi influences, these Uighurs must be suppressed. However, the majority of Uighurs who think of themselves as Chinese citizens and not primarily as white Muslims

In addition, China has not banned Sharia. Sharia, intermixed with local traditions, is still practiced within the Uighur community, but certain cultural excesses are strictly prohibited, such as honor killings.

Most Uyghurs look like Central Asian mongoloid, not much white in them.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Some Uighurs are nothing more than reverse racist skinheads who think they're white and not Chinese. They have both terrorist and Nazi influences, these Uighurs must be suppressed. However, the majority of Uighurs who think of themselves as Chinese citizens and not primarily as white Muslims

In addition, China has not banned Sharia. Sharia, intermixed with local traditions, is still practiced within the Uighur community, but certain cultural excesses are strictly prohibited, such as honor killings.

You maybe right.

No quibble on that.

China has not banned Sharia, but has ensured by control that it is in conformity with the State policies and does not upset Chinese way of life.

Just like it is done for Christianity - control.

In Islam, there can be NO local influence that can be intermixed. The Quaran, Hadith, etc are the guide and there can be NO deviation or interpretation.

Read the report I have appended. It is not my idea at all.

China has to ensure that foreign religions do not upset the Chinese way of life or the culture that has been developed over the ages.

One may not agree with it, but that is how China does it and that is what ensures that China's stability is not upset by foreign ideas!!

In many countries, religious divide is the cause of misery.

Clinically analysed, it is a quite good a reason, for China to be so and ensure that foreign influences do not upset the Chinese way of life.

 

[ephone]

Jewish women wear burqa covering their whole face???

Why don't you show the source???

jewish women also wear tht silly thing.

 

[ephone]

Learn how to spell, you illiterate.

There are tons of mis-spelling in your posts. If I were illiterate, you are for sure the retarded one.

 

[ephone]

China has much tighter control over muslims over what they called "muslim rights" than France has ever dreamed of.

As far as Uighurs self-recognition as Chinese or what, to be honest, I really cannot say majority of the Uighurs think of themselves as Chinese since I am not one of them. That sentence must come from government article.

However, as my classmates there told me, the Uighurs hostility towards Han Chinese there is wild-spread.

Of course, we try to help them integrate China's main culture and let them become the fabric of the whole picture. However, if they choose not to, they can go whatever they want to. In that part of land, China will enforce the secular law for the best interest of China.

France may have banned the full face ban and there is outrage here.

It is good to see the Chinese supporting the same and why not?

However, just as an aside, it maybe interesting to note that in China, Islam is controlled and people below 18 are not allowed to have any religious education or go to the Mosque.

Therefore, it is fishing in troubled waters at best.

 

[oceanx]

About infiltrate into, I give you the following link for you to learn:

infiltrate into - Idioms - by the Free Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

If you are going to quote me the "free dictionary" courtesy of professor Google, at least quote me the whole shabam, which is here. We'll be the judge as to which usage is less awkward.

How about googling a little harder and find me a construct similar to your "infiltrate into various of networks"?

There is no shame in admitting that you don't know how to use prepositions. Put aside the preaching and learn something. We are all trying to do that around here.

About target towards, this one is for you to learn:

Target CEO apologizes, Common Cause pushes Target towards clean elections | Minnesota Independent: News. Politics. Media.

Lol ... glad you like comedy. Do you need a course on googling? C'mon, even 工农兵大学 cannot be that bad ... did you buy a diploma to come to the USA?

In your example, it says "Common Cause pushes Target towards clean elections". Here "Target" is not only a noun, it's the name of a friggin' retail company all over your home of the brave!

And you are using "Target" the department store to justify your illiterate construct as in "targeting towards Muslims"?

It just goes to show that Amrika's main problems are not terrorists, or foreclosures ... and not even drug dealers, but the H1-B visa holders with fake credential papers.

Now humour me, tell me you put up the example above as a joke ... so we can both "save face". Actually don't do it for me. Do it for brotha Speeda. Now how is it gonna go down when he sells to everybody that Chinese people are the most intelligent?

 

[Capt.Popeye]

If you are going to quote me the "free dictionary" courtesy of professor Google, at least quote me the whole shabam, which is here. We'll be the judge as to which usage is less awkward.

How about googling a little harder and find me a construct similar to your "infiltrate into various of networks"?

There is no shame in admitting that you don't know how to use prepositions. Put aside the preaching and learn something. We are all trying to do that around here.




Lol ... glad you like comedy. Do you need a course on googling? C'mon, even 工农兵大学 cannot be that bad ... did you buy a diploma to come to the USA?

In your example, it says "Common Cause pushes Target towards clean elections". Here "Target" is not only a noun, it's the name of a friggin' retail company all over your home of the brave!

And you are using "Target" the department store to justify your illiterate construct as in "targeting towards Muslims"?

It just goes to show that Amrika's main problems are not terrorists, or foreclosures ... and not even drug dealers, but the H1-B visa holders with fake credential papers.

Now humour me, tell me you put up the example above as a joke ... so we can both "save face". Actually don't do it for me. Do it for brotha Speeda. Now how is it gonna go down when he sells to everybody that Chinese people are the most intelligent?

Was'nt this thread about " France starts ban on full-face veil"??
And to talk about English language writing and comprehension skills is "bit too much", don't you think ? Takes off-topic trolling and derailing to some "unusual heights" or should I say "depths".