France not to allow women to wear abayas in schools: Minister

[Bilal9]

Schools should be place of learning and not something else, make uniform compulsory and no religious symbols inside school for everyone.

Let's start by banning sindoor and tika on forehead in Indian schools.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

So...you're going to regulate the dress of one group in order to 'protect' the rights of another group. Sounds like picking winners and losers, not freedom. Drop the freedom mantra and just accept that you're crapping on a specific group because they're brown and foreign. It's fine.

Just be honest about your society's xenophobia and racism. Don't be a coward.

The law regulates the dress of all groups, and blocks groups from infringing the rights of other groups. That is neither discriminatory, nor racist.
When did You last complain about Muslim countries enforcing veils on women?

 

[Rollno21]

Let's start by banning sindoor and tika on forehead in Indian schools.

Sure why not, now please don't come up with cold creams or sunscreen creams too. When I wrote everyone it means everyone.

 

[Foinikas]

You got to understand it's connected,, they want Muslims to be like Christians of today, ie in name only

No faith, no values, no moral strength just wine drinking, lgbt accepting drones adrift in a sea of debauchery

So they want to put pressure on muslim communities and stop them from practicing their faith or raising children with values

Then live in Muslim countries and stop complaining!

Are abayas and burqas allowed in British schools and universities?

Foinikas is like the Godless who has an assumption religion is a man-made 'project'.

What exactly is your religion?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

The law regulates the dress of all groups, and blocks groups from infringing the rights of other groups. That is neither discriminatory, nor racist.
When did You last complain about Muslim countries enforcing veils on women?

1. Your laws aren't hard-coded. They're legislated by your politicians who, repeatedly, have shown that they pick winners and losers based on their personal interests. You're just deluded enough to think there's principle behind the policy, but there isn't. Your societies say they're free and liberal for the benefits, but when it pays off, they abandon their principles for profit. I imagine if Islamists had funneled enough money into your political systems, we wouldn't be talking about hijab or abaya bans.

2. Muslim countries are a joke. We're run by dictators and dynastic families who shuttle the public's wealth to the West and, as a result of their reliance on the West (to launder money, keep properties, etc.) serve Western interests. But like some Western countries, the Muslim countries have a habit of saying they're one thing (e.g., Islam), but turn around and do the opposite (e.g., support Western invasions into other Muslim lands, engage in corruption, enforce nationalistic policies that restrict the mobility of different racial and ethnic groups, etc).

Unlike you, I and most others here condemn such things, repeatedly. You're not listening because you're not about principles, you're just masking your racism and xenophobia behind freedom, secularism, liberalism, etc. Every Pakistani here is ready to overhaul Pakistan, from top-to-bottom.

 

[arslank03]

Simple solution:

Stay in Muslim countries?

Lots of Arabs wear abayas as it is their cultural clothing, what happens then? What is the difference between an abaya and a really loose dress? (hint, there is none) French policy is just retarded straight up really, its kinda perverted how badly the French wants little girls to be running around in skimpy clothes. Is there something you guys want to tell us?

Then live in Muslim countries and stop complaining!

Are abayas and burqas allowed in British schools and universities?


What exactly is your religion?

Stop plundering, pillaging, exploiting, and manipulating Muslim countries for your own interests and people won't leave? Have you ever considered that? BTW, where do those "white europeans" who are converting to Islam go? Cant kick them out because they're not brown. Many people are leaving Christianity because their brain cells kicked in, what happens with them?

The use of dressing to show your religion intrudes on the freedom of others of that religion, since they are pushed to wear religious dressings and pays a price if they do not.


Maybe the Arabs should not have started the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria then…

So instead you intrude on the freedom of EVERYONE to prevent the freedoms of a minority from being allegedly revoked? Do you see how dumb you sound?

Which Arabs started those wars lol because as far as i remember... it wasn't arabs invading Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria...

Do women wear Abaya and Burqa in British schools and universities?

Fortunately, in the UK, people are free to dress however they want, whether they want to show up in an Abaya, Burqa, Niqab and on the contrary, whether they want to show up half naked. All goes.

 

[arslank03]

Oh because a moderately dressed Muslimah with hijab and long clothes that are not abaya,is bad? It makes her show skin?

Abaya vs dress

Its pretty clear the issue was never about abaya vs dress but something far deeper. You morons are just digging yourselves a hole

 

[lightning F57]

Too many people eat the media and bent politician narratives to think coherently.

 

[Foinikas]

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Its pretty clear the issue was never about abaya vs dress but something far deeper. You morons are just digging yourselves a hole

Then have them wear a dress and go. And stop nagging.

 

[arslank03]

Then have them wear a dress and go. And stop nagging.

and why should we do that? Who the **** is someone else to decide what my family members wear?

 

[Foinikas]

and why should we do that? Who the **** is someone else to decide what my family members wear?

Well go wear it in a country that allows you to wear it then! And stop nagging!

You wanna wear a burqa? Go to a country that allows burqas. You wanna wear a bikini to the city hall? Go to a country that allows bikinis to public buildings.

 

[Redbeanpaste]

My guess is that this law Is in part to protect Muslim girls who do not want to wear the abaya and are forced to by their family to dress as they prefer.

I am also guessing the French are hoping that by not wearing religious identity in clothes, migrants eventually, integrate better into French society.

What might happen though is that some parents may send their daughters to their home countries thus denying them a good education.

The French have to try something to integrate north Africans better into French society.

 

[arslank03]

Well go wear it in a country that allows you to wear it then! And stop nagging!

You wanna wear a burqa? Go to a country that allows burqas. You wanna wear a bikini to the city hall? Go to a country that allows bikinis to public buildings.

If i have paid tax, been an upstanding citizen, and contributed to society and economy, then no, i will feel free to do whatever the **** i please, whether you like it or not. If YOU have a problem with what I wear, then deal with it, because i can assure you now, if someone told my sister, wife, daughter, mother etc what they need to wear, i will be more than happy to defend my family and more importantly send you on your way. Who the **** gives you the right over the bodies of other people? Freedom is freedom, whether it is modesty or promiscuity, if you guys want to walk around with your tits out, go for it, nobodys stopping you, if my wife does not want to whore herself out like you guys, then she is free to do so. Regardless whether the state allows it or doesnt.

 

[Indos]

Clever and extraordinary Muslim are welcomed to be Indonesian citizens. We have made new program where getting our citizenship will be easy for them. Even nomad workers are also welcomed.

Better live in the place where Islam is respected where our daughters and wifes can also exercise our religion freely.

There are even many Ukrainians and Russians who live here now, escaping the war. For them, they prefer Bali though, but maybe some live in Jakarta.

It is now easier to buy houses as well in Indonesia despite being foreigners for house or apartment between 2 billion Rupiah and above.

 

[FourMikeEcho]

If i have paid tax, been an upstanding citizen, and contributed to society and economy, then no, i will feel free to do whatever the **** i please, whether you like it or not. If YOU have a problem with what I wear, then deal with it, because i can assure you now, if someone told my sister, wife, daughter, mother etc what they need to wear, i will be more than happy to defend my family and more importantly send you on your way. Who the **** gives you the right over the bodies of other people? Freedom is freedom, whether it is modesty or promiscuity, if you guys want to walk around with your tits out, go for it, nobodys stopping you, if my wife does not want to whore herself out like you guys, then she is free to do so. Regardless whether the state allows it or doesnt.

You are absolutely right. As long as you obey the laws of the country you live in. If you lived in UAE, how you can take a picture of somebody and post on social media or what you post is regulated.

This is the French law. They have no business telling you where you live what to do. But if you (speaking generally, not meaning you) choose to live in a country, get citizenship, and benefits then it has to be their laws and rules.

The French virtue of freedom has allowed over immigration to take place and now they are concerned about their identify. I am neither French or European, but I have lived in Dubai where people feel the same way that their Arab/Muslim identity overtaken by western culture. So it goes both ways and this is the French attempt to protect their identity.

They should have started earlier and limited the number of Muslims they let in to begin with but that would have been draconian. They didn’t figure that those arriving will choose to not assimilate.

It’s understandable that most are holding the French to a higher standard than rich GCC countries. You can be a third generation south Asian and never get citizenship. But the French are giving their new arrivals citizenship. That is generosity to an extent