Former RAW chief says Pakistan getting closer to Russia, Israel

[Awesome]

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007\02\01\story_1-2-2007_pg7_32

NEW DELHI: Former Research and Analysing Wing (RAW) chief Vikram Sood has warned that Pakistan is getting closer to Russia and even Israel, and cautioned that these developments are not good omens for New Delhi.

In a research article for the upcoming issue of the journal ‘Indian Defence Review’, Sood also warned the government against pursuing its newly-found friendship with the US at the cost of it relations with Russia. “If India pulls away from Russia in its newly-found friendship with the US, New Delhi would only be pursuing short term and short-sighted strategic policies,” he said.

He asked Pakistan to realise that the “marriage” between Kashmir and India would not be annulled, although both appeared to be caught up in an “unhappy marriage”. “This understanding and the acceptance is a long way away in Pakistan,” said Sood.

He said a booming Indian economy would only lead to “greater integration of regions including Kashmir, drawing the average Kashmiri into the Indian mainstream and lessen the appeal or fear of radical Islamic terrorists wishing to Talibanise Kashmir”.

Describing the Pakistan Army as the “strongest political party” in that country, the former RAW chief said stifling of the mainstream democratic forces and their exclusion from the proposed general elections would lead India’s western neighbour towards Talibanisation. “So long as its rulers keep the mainstream democratic forces stifled and lean heavily on the mullah nexus for their own survival, Pakistan will inevitably slip towards Talibanisation,” said Sood.

He warned that anti-incumbency, being a strong factor, was bound to adversely affect Pakistan. “This is bound to happen in Pakistan one day, and that would affect the entire country where the political systems have been cramped for so long,” he said in the article. Sood said that the spate of assassination attempts, suicide attacks and events in Balochistan, Wazsiristan and Bajaur were “not a happy signal for Pakistan’s armed forces. “The anti-incumbency factor, as we call it here, can afflict the Pakistan Army as well,” he added. iftikhar gilani

 

[Cheetah786]

wow what a surprise pakistan is bad india is good

 

[genmirajborgza786]

Russia may be though the recent attitude of the russian's are dissapointing but israel (?) well this is politic's so many thing's can happen

 

[Adux]

i think this is a bogus article

 

[Awesome]

it's just news and quoting what the foremer RAW chief said. He could be bogus not the article. Yeah there's no clear indication of Pakistan closing the gaps with the Israelis, but Russia definitely.

 

[Adux]

it's just news and quoting what the foremer RAW chief said. He could be bogus not the article. Yeah there's no clear indication of Pakistan closing the gaps with the Israelis, but Russia definitely.

Russians? Slight improvements, courtesy end of cold war. Buck stops there

 

[Awesome]

Russians? Slight improvements, courtesy end of cold war. Buck stops there

naaaaaah

 

[Adux]

naaaaaah

suits you, but unlestil india stops buying everything from Russia, Pakistan's monetary contribution to russian economy will be always low. India might want to stop Russia selling to China but cant, cuz they buy as much as India, wether civilian or military. Pakistan cant match both the countries in the for seeable future

 

[Spring Onion]

suits you, but unlestil india stops buying everything from Russia, Pakistan's monetary contribution to russian economy will be always low. India might want to stop Russia selling to China but cant, cuz they buy as much as India, wether civilian or military. Pakistan cant match both the countries in the for seeable future

Agreed. Russia has not actual power these days and i dont see any strategic importance of India for Russia if any ? do tell me. But its indeed a reality that India is a big market for Russia in terms of weapons which we are not.

 

[Adux]

Agreed. Russia has not actual power these days and i dont see any strategic importance of India for Russia if any ? do tell me. But its indeed a reality that India is a big market for Russia in terms of weapons which we are not.

Do you know the Technological Gap in Military Tech that exists between the Tier 1 and Tier 3 countries

Tier 1

US

Russia (decline, yet front runners in mech tech, propulsion, sats, space, civi nuke tech etc, behind tier 2 in Electronics, Stealth, Avionics etc)

Tier 2

France, UK, Japan etc

Tier 3

China, India


India has direct access to Russian as they have a time tested relationship and has no dispute's unlike China and Russia which still have some border disputes. Russia will arm china,but not the point they themseleves are threatened. Russians are in need of money but they are not ****.

USA wont sell it to India, Russia will, Its like the Saudi Oil field of Miltary tech.

do you know that T-64 were better than T-72, but only T-72 are exported..Russians are very careful about their Technology. KGB's espionage into industries are well known T-144 and the Concorde are pretty good examples for the civi tech.

Indians for the russians are the harmless point of destination for their technology in return for dollars, while for China they have a line they wont cross


Adu

 

[Bull]

Agreed. Russia has not actual power these days and i dont see any strategic importance of India for Russia if any ? do tell me. But its indeed a reality that India is a big market for Russia in terms of weapons which we are not.

Russia could see India as a counter balance against China.

 

[Spring Onion]

Russia could see India as a counter balance against China.

Bull and Adu that is right but China believes in steady economice progress unlike US who believes in expansion so tell me for Russia, US is the biggest rival or threat or China.
as far counter balancing Chian thourgh India, US is more intrested in that as compare to Russia.

 

[Bull]

Bull and Adu that is right but China believes in steady economice progress unlike US who believes in expansion so tell me for Russia, US is the biggest rival or threat or China.
as far counter balancing Chian thourgh India, US is more intrested in that as compare to Russia.

So...???

 

[Adux]

There is no need for US to counter China through Russia, Russia is way beyond China's reach militarly, And I agree India is going to be used to counter China, but unlike Soviet-Pakistan situation, India has a Beef and geniuine military confrontation with China.

For US, China is bigger threat at the current level since Russian Power Projection capability have depleted and stagnent while China's are increasing with a rapid rate.

Bull,

I have never thought about the Russian Angle on India against China,
There is a tech-difference in Indian-Russian deals as against Russo-Chinese deals

 

[Bull]

Bull,

I have never thought about the Russian Angle on India against China,
There is a tech-difference in Indian-Russian deals as against Russo-Chinese deals

Russia did have and does have border issues with China. Even with out those issues Moscow wont be happy to see a monster rising in its neighbourhood, they wpould defiilty likely to have somebody on the other side to distract the dragon.

Russia's current sale of arms to China is out of compulsion, so that their industry is alive, if they had a choice they would have been more choosey at what they gave.