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KL News Network Posted on: Saturday, April 15th, 2017

SRINAGAR: The outrage over a young man being tied to a jeep as human shield was shared by a top general of the India army saying the image will haunt his force for a long time now. He infacts sees parallels between Kashmir and Vietnam.

“Image of a ‘stone pelter’ tied in front of a jeep as a ‘human shield’, will 4 ever haunt the Indian Army & the nation,” Lt Gen H S Panag wrote on his twitter. “When the State starts looking like a mirror image of the terrorists, it spells ominous portents!”
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In response, journalist Rahul Singh re-tweeted: “This image will cost us tax payers multiple crore in Army’s image management cost.”

In an earlier tweet, a response to a security analyst Nitin Gokhle, the General had tweeted: “U have covered J&K enough to the ans. I have yet to see a mob stand after a few placed shots on the knees. This image is classic Vietnam.” Gokhle was an editor at NDTV earlier.

The speaking picture and the shot cell phone video clip was initially celebrated by the jingoistic social website activists. However, it has now started a mild wave of self introspection and the costs it entails.

Lieutenant General Harcharanjit Singh Panag retired from army in December 2008 and has led the Northern Command. Father of actress Gul Panag, the general is considered a liberal.
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Earlier General BS Jaswal, former Army commander, Northern Command, was quoted saying that taking a human shield was illegal and a violation of laid down military procedure. The Army officer should have got out of his vehicle when the stone-pelting started, pulled out a weapon and fired a warning shot below the waist, and had the crowd not dispersed, fired again for effect, he was quoted saying.

The haunting image was understood later after the ‘human shield’ came walking home from the army garrison in Arizal where he was beaten before being sent home. He has been identified as Farooq Ahmad Dar, a resident of Chill village. He said he was going to attend mourning in a neighbouring village when he was intercepted by the soldiers, tied to a jeep with ropes and driven to a number of village. He had a paper attached on his chest, the warning of which was not known.

Dar told reporters that in a village if he wished to talk to villagers, he was rebuked and threatened. His brother told reporters that they actually had to lead a delegation to the particular army camp to get him free. Independent lawmaker Hakim Yasin said he was aware of the happening and had talked to the local army commanders that eventually led to his release.

Though army said Dar was a stone pelter, enquiries suggested that he is actually a shawl weaver with no such record. But the larger point is that even if he would have been a stone pelter does the systems and the procedures permit it. Army has said it has launched an enquiry.

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It is propaganda gold for Pakistan!!

Remember we hate Indian's, our goal is to make muslim's within India and occupied Kashmir to see the lght.

This is like a blinding search light in their faces:lol:
 
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Nonsense.

Don't see anything haunting about the image.

Unless it's in the eyes of the guy tied up.

Hope he got the full hospitality of the Indian Army before being released.
 
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P.S. hadn't seen this front on image yet.

Hussain is right. Clear n sharp. Pure gold.
 
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Nonsense.

Don't see anything haunting about the image.

Unless it's in the eyes of the guy tied up.

Hope he got the full hospitality of the Indian Army before being released.

Maybe this will help you understand.

"Indian army joins the exclusive human shield club. The club includes the likes of ISIS, the Viet Cong, the Nazi SS, Saddam's regime during the Persian gulf war, LTTE etc. "
 
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The general is right. The one rule about perception management is that one man's suffering is a tragedy, an international outrage; the death of a hundred is a statistic, a collateral damage.

There wouldn't be any scandal/moral inquisition if the CO had requested strategic area effect bombing and/or massed artillery support and preferably coined the secular sounding name for 'sharp and cutting strike' for the ad-hoc campaign to force open a clear path for his embattled units.

Kashmir is now a zone wherein now life-saving/casualty reducing measures are a meaningless gesture. Every inch of humanity to a radicalized mob is an inch of rope they will use to hang you with. I hope the army learns its lessons.
 
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Maybe this will help you understand.

"Indian army joins the exclusive human shield club. The club includes the likes of ISIS, the Viet Cong, the Nazi SS, Saddam's regime during the Persian gulf war, LTTE etc. "

Let me spell out things for you too.

The insurgency will be crushed.

How brutally, depends on the Kashmiri separatists.

The Kashmiris in the valley could behave. Then we have no problem.

They could decide this is not the country we want to live in. Again we have no problem.

They could pick up stones. Then they get shot with pellets or plastic bullets, get tied to jeeps, and if and when caught, they get pretty decently whacked. Old used engine oil, chilli powder and round tipped batons are popular. As are special fiber sticks which I hear split and rip pretty bad.

Finally, they can pick up the gun. And get killed.

Most Indians currently would prefer no. 2. It's been no. 1 off and on in the past, till each new generation gets radicalised.

No. 3 and 4 are our security forces reacting to maintain the law and keep the peace.

So regardless of which genocidal group you link us to, we will continue to crush the insurgency and drag Kashmir kicking and screaming into the Indian Union.

And there is honestly nothing you or the separatist can do about it.
 
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Let me spell out things for you too.

The insurgency will be crushed.

How brutally, depends on the Kashmiri separatists.

The Kashmiris in the valley could behave. Then we have no problem.

They could decide this is not the country we want to live in. Again we have no problem.

They could pick up stones. Then they get shot with pellets or plastic bullets, get tied to jeeps, and if and when caught, they get pretty decently whacked. Old used engine oil, chilli powder and round tipped batons are popular. As are special fiber sticks which I hear split and rip pretty bad.

Finally, they can pick up the gun. And get killed.

Most Indians currently would prefer no. 2. It's been no. 1 off and on in the past, till each new generation gets radicalised.

No. 3 and 4 are our security forces reacting to maintain the law and keep the peace.

So regardless of which genocidal group you link us to, we will continue to crush the insurgency and drag Kashmir kicking and screaming into the Indian Union.

And there is honestly nothing you or the separatist can do about it.

- You do know using human shields is a war crime right? In fact, the use of human shields was subject to trials after world war II at Lüneberg and Nuremberg.

- Secondly, you can rant all you want about what you (Indian military) will do or won't do, but get this, when a scholar or a researcher of history will write a paper to present at a conference on the issue of Kashmir, whether it is for the Indian stance or against it, it will always have one constant i.e. the Indian military use of a human shield, be it in the form of the text in the paper or in the form of a question in a subsequent question and answer session.

-Thirdly, guess what, with this act, you guys just made RT, NYtimes, presstv, the independent etc. So, while you guys present your case to the world as to how your the fair and just party that simply wants peace, and the "insurgents are doing this and that" you just went out and borrowed a tactic straight from the Nazi SS, ISIS, Saddam's regime, LTTE etc.
Congratulations, you just put up a poster for the rest of the world to see as to what India is doing in Kashmir.
In today's world, perception is key ... especially in a conflict. You had the US who had to literally make up terms such as "enhanced interrogation techniques" to justify waterboarding, and here you are with your professional military using an innocent civilian as a human shield. This is why your own general is saying what he's saying i.e. "It will forever haunt the Indian army and the nation" and I'd take his words over yours in this situation.
 
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They are not soldiers
How many time I said it more? They are zankhe without balls, even Zankhe act more confident when it's about defend themselves.
 
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