Formal Offer for J-31 and also presention on J20

[The enlightened]

2020 based on recent plan, but as Lockheed Martin joins the program as well this year, so it will be faster in my opinion, so thats why I project that its maiden flight can be in 2019.

And what about Indonesia? When do you get it?

 

[Zarvan]

@Tipu7 @Donatello

Regarding the Numbers of Rafales ; my ADVISE to you is to find out the EXACT size of IAF
and the number of Mig 29s and Mirage 2000s in IAF

What is NOT disclosed ; it does not mean that it does not exist

Mr you are going for only 36 Rafales and as Tejas has pretty much failed so you may go for Grippen now.

 

[danger007]

Yea....how did your MMRCA tender go? Have you received any aircraft yet?
How was the Bofors experience....or the French Scorpene one?
How about the over priced Russian aircraft carrier.....or the fact that HAL still doesn't know why the Sukhois crashed....meanwhile the Russians blame Indians.

Never heard Chinese or Americans blaming Pakistan for crashes.........

INS vicky works fine it is not any floating casino. HAL doing fine.. we aren't at war to worry about.. we have enough arsenal to take care of you guys... the thread is about J 31 formal offer... but you guys jumping around... criticising Russians and Americans tech??? all the thing china fid is reverse engineering Russian tech.. talking like that chinese can finish off j 31 without any problems in it???how is it possible? ?? wven if you 80%access of the F 35... can you make an jet within 4-5years time frame??

 

[Indos]

And what about Indonesia? When do you get it?

Once again, based on recent agreement, there will be 2 prototypes built in Indonesia (PT Dirgantara), another 4 will be built in South Korea. Of course first and maybe until forth planes will be built in South Korea and then tested as all of the R & D process is in South Korea ( we have sent around 30 engineers there), and I believe we just built the final prototype (right before mass producing phase). South Korea will be the first to produce it, and maybe if anything goes well, Indonesia will get it around 2023-2024.

South Korea will be responsible in producing the plane for most part of the world market (like Middle East), Indonesia has the responsibility to produce it for South East Asia region, but I still dont know about South Asia market.

 

[sadiqqs]

j31 good

 

[A2Z]

Does China have technology to build advanced jet engine to power 5th generation aircraft?

China is working on the powerplant, if everything goes as per their plan soon we'll see WS-13 powering both JF-17 and J-31.

j 31 is really a stealth high tech fighter. ..then china won't export it to other countries for next 6-7 years of induction in their AF

well every 5th gen tech is high tech.. you come with specifications and at least with 2 or 3 proto types.. most of members here argue without valid data.. or based some X sources.. speculated news.. unless pak is willing to buy whatever china made in the name of J 31... 5th gen jet by 2020-22 time frame is not possible. . china is not fool.. to give whatever pakistan wants .. chinese are good businessmen. ..

If you think so then you should read about Sino-Pak relations, there is a reason why people call Pakistan China's Israel.

they are not reverse engineering any jet.. they supposed to break difficulties come up with a whole new generation jet.. an 5th gen jet in 4-5years??? you must be kidding. ... or you are over hyping chinese capabilities. ..

Keeping in mind that Pakistanis allowed the Chinese to inspect the tail left from the black hawk in Abbotabad. Chinese woul dbe reverse engineering to some extent.

India will definitely get 126 Rafales ; your wish to see 126 Rafales will come true

36 is just a start ; we ALWAYS do follow on orders

How we get it is another matter

Its not the start its most probably the end, you defence minister or who ever it was said Rafale is expensive for us.

 

[IND151]

Hogwash. A brief study of the Pakistan-China military relations would allow you to realize that China has always offered Pakistan the best of what they have. Many a times that "best" has not been found enough by Pakistan which has then lead to further improvements of the product before being bought. The J-10 is the prime example, for when the Chinese didn't even allow the bird to be known by the rest of the world it had already been offered to Pakistan. Then are the Z-10s which have just been 'gifted'...

Did they offer you J 20?

 

[Zarvan]

Did they offer you J 20?

No right now they offered J-31 but I am pretty sure if we insist we would get J-20 also when time comes.

 

[Tipu7]

Right! This J-31 is a super bird of prey straight out of the Star Wars movie! The greatest fighter ever built with probable alien technology!

And..........One J31 took out numerous SU30s.........in simulated combat on a computer!!!! LOL!

I think you guys need to get real and stop crapping around like kids. Jeez! This is starting to get silly.

Since T50 and FGFA are in trouble so let's make fun of J31 ........ Indian logic.......humph jealous people

Mr you are going for only 36 Rafales and as Tejas has pretty much failed so you may go for Grippen now.

Just remember my words....... For India, Tejas is all about preserving great India's honor and dignity. If they fail to develop it then it will be a "doob marne ka muqaam" for them since they r over acting and jumping too high on order to glorify their projects......

 

[Path-Finder]

Since T50 and FGFA are in trouble so let's make fun of J31 ........ Indian logic.......humph jealous people


Just remember my words....... For India, Tejas is all about preserving great India's honor and dignity. If they fail to develop it then it will be a "doob marne ka muqaam" for them since they r over acting and jumping too high on order to glorify their projects......

I believe the correct term is Punching Above Your Weight!!

 

[danger007]

China is working on the powerplant, if everything goes as per their plan soon we'll see WS-13 powering both JF-17 and J-31.


If you think so then you should read about Sino-Pak relations, there is a reason why people call Pakistan China's Israel.

Keeping in mind that Pakistanis allowed the Chinese to inspect the tail left from the black hawk in Abbotabad. Chinese woul dbe reverse engineering to some extent.

Its not the start its most probably the end, you defence minister or who ever it was said Rafale is expensive for us.

common we are talking about fighter jet program... not hawk tail and composites....

 

[Zhukov]

Yes. The Chinese version has a better radar and better pilots.

Troll in the forum!!!!!!!!

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

Here is the insider information. Paf is not ready to sign the deal on the J 31 yet---it is still up in the air.

 

[Tipu7]

Hi,

Here is the insider information. Paf is not ready to sign the deal on the J 31 yet---it is still up in the air.

And reason of in willingness???

 

[MastanKhan]

And reason of in willingness???

The focus is on the JF 17 BLK 3 with aesa and the 2 seater version----. Paf believes that aesa equipped JF 17 will level the field quite a bit.