Foreign funded NGO's stalling development; causing annual loss of growth of 3% :IB

[he-man]

oh you dickhead.. do you have any fucken idea about government expenditure and waste's ? You illiterate douchebag ?
No one is fucken stopping you from building fucken powerplants ...why can't you fucken keep your citys and rivers clean ... billions are spend billions !!! Mumbai spends 4000 cr of garbage management ... all money goes into corrupt politicians pockets

You you smug... if the Europeans have destroyed their forests so do u ? The law of India's says you have to protect the environment not the Europeans

u are a typical braindead person on this forum,,,there are plenty like u who have no idea about the problems here.

and u are fucking advocating cow dung for generating power??are u serious u moron of epic proportions??
and u want the industry to run on solar power u retard.

now don't tell me u are against nuclear power too,as majority of u environmentalists are really stupid and not worth even talking to.people who haven't seen poverty will make shitty statements like u are doing without fucking realizing that we have to use whats cheaper and available in excess in our country.

we are not well off like west to start using solar power as of yet,,,,we just are not

So you are totally okay with random foreign entities charging leaders like Modi with genocide, in a bid to put guys like Kejriwal/Rahul Gandhi in power? Have you heard of "Get modi policy" by Hilary Clinton? So you think influencing the electorate by using underhanded methods is okay? They even involve themselves in human trafficking of tribals.
Most of them dont even want to disclose their sources, a lot of them dont maintain records of any sort! Do you think random money entering the country is not a security threat? Please answer these questions.

the guy is a typical environmentalist

 

[Yeti]

I agree with Mr Singh we must have a balance between nature and development and to protect our environment and our wildlife and if NGO's can aid in this I will support them but what they tried to do in Orissa will not be permitted.

 

[anonymus]

Dude !!! listen .. India's household garbage is wet (fruits vegetable left over) compared to plastic and paper left over around the world ... we can create more methane gas from this within 2 days of fermentation ... this has been proved to !! its not something hypothetical. Don't compare us to the west ... we have resources but are you smart enough to use it ??

Its called gas powered turbines btw

And the amount of gas produced would be so low that it could not provide enough gas to run a gas powered plant for more than 15 minutes.

Solar power, irrespective of it's production cost, requires large tract of land for any appreciable generation of electricity; land which could be employed for some other purpose.

 

[Mr.S.Singh]

u are a typical braindead person on this forum,,,there are plenty like u who have no idea about the problems here.

Looking at your intellectually level yeah .. u seem retard.

and u are fucking advocating cow dung for generating power??are u serious u moron of epic proportions??
and u want the industry to run on solar power u retard.

your a retard aren't you. Do you understand wet-garbage ?? Vegtable waste, left over food ?? check the data of this in metro cities m8 ... you will be shocked .. THIS IS NOT COWDUNG !! This are vital sources of methane !!! dude before arguing check em ...

now don't tell me u are against nuclear power too,as majority of u environmentalists are really stupid and not worth even talking to.people who haven't seen poverty will make shitty statements like u are doing without fucking realizing that we have to use whats cheaper and available in excess in our country.

Who said i am against nuclear power ?? i am for a balance in environment... infact 2020, we wouldnt need uranium for future plants because thorium plants would have proved its might if all goes by plan

we are not well off like west to start using solar power as of yet,,,,we just are not

By 2020, we will have 20,000MW plus solar power generated by state, this is different from households that are installing solar panels for generating private electricity

And the amount of gas produced would be so low that it could not provide enough gas to run a gas powered plant for more than 15 minutes.

Solar power, irrespective of it's production cost, requires large tract of land for any appreciable generation of electricity; land which could be employed for some other purpose.

Sir... Metro cities like bombay ... do you know the amount of waste produced ?? 7000 tons a day ... 60-70% is wet waste

 

[he-man]

Looking at your intellectually level yeah .. u seem retard.

your a retard aren't you. Do you understand wet-garbage ?? Vegtable waste, left over food ?? check the data of this in metro cities m8 ... you will be shocked .. THIS IS NOT COWDUNG !! This are vital sources of methane !!! dude before arguing check em ...


Who said i am against nuclear power ?? i am for a balance in environment



By 2020, we will have 20,000MW plus solar power generated by state, this is different from households that are installing solar panels for generating private electricity

do u even know whats methane u moron??
how is it produced,any clue??

vital sources of methane

all ur other points are stupid,,,,,maybe rahul gandhi would have listened to them but unfortunately for u

its modi now

And the amount of gas produced would be so low that it could not provide enough gas to run a gas powered plant for more than 15 minutes.

Solar power, irrespective of it's production cost, requires large tract of land for any appreciable generation of electricity; land which could be employed for some other purpose.

exactly,,,,he dosen't know what he is blabbering.
i have seen the cow dung plants work and they generate far more methane than plants and vegetables.

still its shitty and worthless,,,,its a concept that has no takers

 

[Mr.S.Singh]

do u even know whats methane u moron??
how is it produced,any clue??

vital sources of methane

all ur other points are stupid,,,,,maybe rahul gandhi would have listened to them but unfortunately for u

its modi now



exactly,,,,he dosen't know what he is blabbering.
i have seen the cow dung plants work and they generate far more methane than plants and vegetables.

still its shitty and worthless,,,,its a concept that has no takers

don't embarrass your self you prick

Biochemical Methane Potential of Agro Wastes
Comparison of methane production by co-digesting fruit and vegetable waste with first stage and second stage anaerobic digester sludge from a two stage digester. - ResearchGate
http://ethesis.nitrkl.ac.in/2547/1/THESIS_FINAL_REPORT..pdf

Google .. you will get 1000's of more links

 

[he-man]

don't embarrass your self you prick

Biochemical Methane Potential of Agro Wastes
Comparison of methane production by co-digesting fruit and vegetable waste with first stage and second stage anaerobic digester sludge from a two stage digester. - ResearchGate
http://ethesis.nitrkl.ac.in/2547/1/THESIS_FINAL_REPORT..pdf

Google .. you will get 1000's of more links

who said they don't produce methane u fool.

the only thing laughable was ur way of putting it.
dosen't change a thing its a very costly process and india is not ready for it

don't embarrass your self you prick

Biochemical Methane Potential of Agro Wastes
Comparison of methane production by co-digesting fruit and vegetable waste with first stage and second stage anaerobic digester sludge from a two stage digester. - ResearchGate
http://ethesis.nitrkl.ac.in/2547/1/THESIS_FINAL_REPORT..pdf

Google .. you will get 1000's of more links

who said they don't produce methane u fool.

the only thing laughable was ur way of putting it.
dosen't change a thing its a very costly process and india is not ready for it

 

[Mr.S.Singh]

who said they don't produce methane u fool.

the only thing laughable was ur way of putting it.
dosen't change a thing its a very costly process and india is not ready for it



who said they don't produce methane u fool.

the only thing laughable was ur way of putting it.
dosen't change a thing its a very costly process and india is not ready for it

Costly ?? are you in your right mind ?? its lying outside your cities !!
gas powered generators are not expensive ... every major city can sustain one ... it is a sources of addition energy
India is not ready for it ?? typical dialogue !!!

 

[he-man]

Costly ?? are you in your right mind ?? its lying outside your cities !!
gas powered generators are not expensive ... every major city can sustain one ... it is a sources of addition energy
India is not ready for it ?? typical dialogue !!!

its not a typical dialogue but truth.
it will surely be implemented in phases..........but it will take time.

 

[Indrani]

The irony of these posts ^^^^ to me is that all of the supposed evils being perpetrated by NGO's in India are ALSO being perpetrated in my country, the USA, by both the same NGO's and by the Democratic Party and the administration of Barack Obama. The underlying philosophy is democratic socialism combined with extreme environmentalism. It is not anti-India, it is anti-human economic development. The god of this movement is Nature, and man is the enemy.

There is a difference though. USA is already very very developed, may be even over developed, but India is a mess. No potable drinking water supply, no gas supply, no electricity, etc, etc. Things you take for granted in USA, is a distant dream here.

 

[Mr.S.Singh]

its not a typical dialogue but truth.
it will surely be implemented in phases..........but it will take time.

sir with due respect .. it is one of the easiest way of producing electricity and cleans up the city .. it is a revenue generator ... all it needs is political will ... i remember few entrepreneurs from mumbai had approached BMC (that handles garbage) with this idea ... they wanted to BUY garbage from the city ... but BMC refused. Mind you BMC PAYS rs.2000 per truck to people to take away garbage ... says alot about political will in India

 

[he-man]

sir with due respect .. it is one of the easiest way of producing electricity and cleans up the city .. it is a revenue generator ... all it needs is political will ... i remember few entrepreneurs from mumbai had approached BMC (that handles garbage) with this idea ... they wanted to BUY garbage from the city ... but BMC refused. Mind you BMC PAYS rs.2000 per truck to people to take away garbage ... says alot about political will in India

yes i am with u on this issue completely,,,this will be a good implementation.
cities are far too dirty,,,,something needs to be done asap.

but again as u said,,,political will is the problem

 

[Gibbs]

Sri Lanka continued to have problems for 25 years, a quarter of a century, while Norway and Scandinavian govts "tried" to bring peace to Sri Lanka. The Scandinavian and other Western govts "bring peace" to countries by protracting the conflicts and widening fault lines for decades together.

Remember Boston bombings? The whole city was shut down for 2 days while the police combed the entire city for 2 suspects. Now can we do such a thing in India without being labeled as a human rights violator and a dictatorial state?

It's a pity that even most Indians believe whatever thats coming out of a western source as gospel truth.. They only cry foul when the shoes is on thier foot, INGO's survive on third world misery.. It is in thier interest to have suffering, violence and poverty in the world.. Thier funding and political motives are attained though instability.. The HR organizations is a mega billion dollar industry

As you mentioned my country suffered nearly 3 decades partly due to these leeches, Your acknowledgment is indeed rare but welcome

 

[he-man]

There is a difference though. USA is already very very developed, may be even over developed, but India is a mess. No potable drinking water supply, no gas supply, no electricity, etc, etc. Things you take for granted in USA, is a distant dream here.

exactly.

how can we cut our emissions when we rank just 134 on hdi in the world??
when we have max poor in the world??

we have far more obligation to poor people dying than to environment at the moment.

still,,,we must try to whatever we can for environment

 

[anonymus]

Sir... Metro cities like bombay ... do you know the amount of waste produced ?? 7000 tons a day ... 60-70% is wet waste

And sirjee it requires fermentation for weeks for optimum methane production + You would need to have massive containers to contain that much waste + efficiency of Biogas production is very low.

On 10 day fermentation methane produced by a Kg of wet waste would be 50 litre. 7000 Kg of waste would produce 350000 litres which is 350 cubic meters.So gas produced per day 117 meter cube or 4131.82 cubic feet .

http://pods.dasnr.okstate.edu/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-8544/BAE-1762web.pdf


This amount of gas could generate 4131.82 X127 = 54737 KWh of Power ie 54 MW.

How much coal, natural gas, or petroleum is used to generate a kilowatthour of electricity? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Compare it with a nuclear power plant which could produce 5000MW standalone.

I am not saying that generating power from waste is not important. I am just saying that power from unconventional sources could not replace those with conventional ones and we would require Nuclear and thermal power plants in near future and protests like those against kudamkulum are simply anti development protests.