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For Pakistan, Ties With Israel Are the Way Forward Islamabad needs bold decisions to compete in a changing world.

I can see traitors and sold put media putting this issue to the fore to test waters.

Once people get numb, there will be more movement, test waters again and then repeat.

I mean WTF. This is least of Pakistan’s troubles at the moment.

This has to be the quickest capitulation to US by any country.
 
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Yaar, let it go.

In a mere months will be rid of him.

Lets just hope we get Gen. Raheel Sharif 2.0 .

As far as Mr. Saad Hafiz (whoever the f#*k) is concerned - I hope he gets a nice property in Jew Land.

There is NO Pakistan/!srael ties (period).
Considering the country of your residence has not only done so but in one way or the other due to it you are contributing or collecting from Israel - do you not think it warranted to express support for your disdain for Israel by leaving the UAE?
 
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Considering the country of your residence has not only done so but in one way or the other due to it you are contributing or collecting from Israel - do you not think it warranted to express support for your disdain for Israel by leaving the UAE?
I am not a Citizen of the UAE. My opinion would of been the same had I of been living in Norway, Canada or any other Nation.

Just because this Country has recently recognized !srael, doesn't really change my views as a Citizen of Pakistan.

Or am I being singled out...

Perhaps we should get a broader view of Overseas Pakistanis [on PDF] & see if they outta leave the Countries where they reside based on your respective assessment.
 
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Considering the fact that we not only recognized Pagan india but atheist China as sovereign political entities way back ------ why not accept a state littered with Caucasian refugees who claims to be Israelites ?


I mean that region still have a considerable amount of Semites , both Arab and Israelites .
 
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For Pakistan, Ties With Israel Are the Way Forward​

Islamabad needs bold decisions to compete in a changing world.​

SAAD HAFIZ JUNE 10, 2022
3 MINUTES READ


Activists protest Israeli air strikes in Gaza in Lahore, Pakistan
Activists protest Israeli air strikes in Gaza in Lahore, Pakistan, on May 22, 2021. Photo: AFP
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A visit by an interfaith delegation of Pakistanis to Israel revived the speculation of normalizing relations between the two countries.
The visit received added attention because the group met with Israel’s President Isaac Herzog, who described the meeting as “an amazing experience.” He even linked it to the Abraham Accords.
The visit offers an opportunity to take a realistic view of Pakistan’s limited foreign policy options. Despite severe domestic constraints, diplomatic ties with Israel are in the national interests of Pakistan.

Pakistan’s Economic Crisis

Pakistan is facing the worst economic crisis since its inception, with potential sovereign default on the horizon. It needs the urgent support of the United States for continued IMF-led funding and removal from the anti-money laundering watchdog’s grey list.
The US leadership, Congress, and the powerful pro-Israel lobby could support the resumption of financial assistance to Pakistan as an incentive if it agrees to normalize ties with Israel. US aid to Pakistan has taken a severe hit with the deterioration of the long-standing bilateral relationship.
Diplomatic relations between Pakistan and Israel are a chance to establish a mutually beneficial economic and trading relationship. For example, Pakistan can benefit from Israel’s high-tech water conservation program.
Furthermore, if rumors are true, Pakistan’s primary backer Saudi Arabia is in the final stage of negotiations to establish diplomatic ties with Israel. It is waiting for President Joe Biden’s upcoming trip to the region to sign on the dotted line.
Pakistan’s other key international partners, China and Turkey, already have growing trade relationships with Israel.

Change of Policy Orientation

Additionally, Pakistan and Israel can benefit from a change of policy orientation — promoting soft power at the expense of hard power and interfaith dialogue instead of enduring violence.
For too long, both countries have exercised military solutions to political problems. The image is not pretty: ethnic killings in Pakistan and systematic violence against Palestinians in Israel.
Israeli security forces keep position during clashes with Palestine.
Israeli security forces keep position during clashes with Palestine. Photo: AFP
While Pakistan and Israel are not natural partners, both emerged as ideological Muslim and Jewish states around the same time — Pakistan in 1947 and Israel in 1948 — because of a bloody partition of the territory of the British empire.
Both countries became US allies because of a shared concern for survival and security. It also led to the building of a powerful military-security establishment and the development of nuclear weapons.
However, Israel and Pakistan have followed divergent paths. While Israel shed its international pariah status and became a leading economic and military power in the Middle East, Pakistan has lost significant ground to competitors in South Asia.

Pakistan and the Abraham Accords

As we know, the Trump administration brokered the Abraham Accords in 2020 amid much fanfare. The primary intent was to encourage the normalization of ties between Israel and the Arab world through business and security alliances.
It is slow going as only the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Morocco, and Sudan have so far joined. The idea of increasing the list for normalization to include other Muslim-majority countries like Pakistan seems overly optimistic.
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Bahrain Foreign Minister Abdullatif al-Zayani, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, US President Donald Trump, and UAE Foreign Minister Abdullah bin Zayed Al-Nahyan sign the Abraham Accords. Photo: AFP
Advancing ties with Israel needs fortitude and strength not shown by previous Pakistani governments. Regrettably, past contact between Islamabad and Jerusalem never got beyond the back-channel stage because of political opposition in Pakistan.
As expected, the visit to Israel drew widespread condemnation in Pakistan, including among the government and opposition. Leaders across the aisle saw it as a betrayal of the Palestinian cause.
Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan stirred the furor. He described the visit as part of an official, secret, and nefarious government plan to recognize the Jewish state against the wishes of the Pakistani people.
Khan’s political strategy these days includes an unending tirade, blaming his removal on the unsubstantiated US, Indian, and Zionist conspiracies.
It is unlikely that Pakistan’s fragile coalition government has the credibility and time to take the politically risky decision to open dialogue with Israel, especially with Khan snipping at its heels.
Yet, bold decisions are needed for Pakistan to compete in a changing world. On its part, Israel does not have the same compulsions. It can wait for Pakistan to come around indefinitely.
Loool delusional author and dani
 
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Saudi - Israeli me toh full bhai-chara chal raha hai aaj kal, who would've thunk ? :o

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The issue is Israel has no defined border, however the biggest issue is that Palestinians are stateless. This is equivalent to modern day slavery. Palestinians who are Israeli citizens have inferior status and citizenship. Israeli passports have 6 levels of citizenship, discriminating people by religion and the worst is Muslim. Israel should not and must not be held as an example for the future of humanity. If the world practises what Israel is doing, it would be the end of peace and humanity.
 
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I’m telling you now the recognition of Israel is heavy on the cards.
ABSOLUTELY NOT, Sir.
Pakistan already melting away ideologically, politically, financially, and spiritually.
If a country can't stand up on its own then no number of compromises and bending backwards can save it.
 
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few more letters needed in order to shake our neutral's legs
- Letter to recognize Israel or else
- Letter to give up nuke or else

bus kanpain tang jaye gye
 
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I am not a Citizen of the UAE. My opinion would of been the same had I of been living in Norway, Canada or any other Nation.

Just because this Country has recently recognized !srael, doesn't really change my views as a Citizen of Pakistan.

Or am I being singled out...

Perhaps we should get a broader view of Overseas Pakistanis [on PDF] & see if they outta leave the Countries where they reside based on your respective assessment.
No, but I am singling out the idea that what is good for the goose must be good for the gander.

If the idea that Pakistan shouldn’t recognize Israel on the basis that its a muslim majority country that sympathizes with the plight of the Palestinians - Then other than principle Pakistan is about to be left alone on the field.

If the same principle is what guides all those who otherwise live in countries that trade with Israel or have military alliances with it - then that principle should be abhorrent enough to talk of “Jew Land” to not want to associate with wherever they are living in.

It seems rather hypocritical to suggest that Pakistan should not recognize Israel even IF(and that is a very debatable IF) there may be short term advantages to it when your own environment is now fully in bed with the Israeli state.

I apply it to myself as well - I live in Israel’s closest ally - my opinion isn’t a majority on what the US should do to solve the crisis but that is the idea of a democracy. If Pakistanis do wish that they don’t want to recognize Israel even if it is or is not the right move for now then my input is not the relevant one especially if I don’t equally criticize or object to the US-Israel nexus in the middle east.

So unless you are as vociferous about the UAE ‘s recognition of Israel since it in some way or the other now connects you to it - it seems spurious and personal rather than actually beneficial advice to the overall polity of Pakistanis

ABSOLUTELY NOT, Sir.
Pakistan already melting away ideologically, politically, financially, and spiritually.
If a country can't stand up on its own then no number of compromises and bending backwards can save it.
Look at the signs around you, there’s not much else left to sell out.
But do we as residents of countries outside of Pakistan - living lives outside of Pakistan in general with the majority of stakes there have the right to suggest these actions when more likely than not some part of our financial and technological interactions include inputs/outputs from Israel?
Have any of us written and object to the US or UK relationship with Israel and how that needs to be reevaluated?
 
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