For my fellow Pakistani members.

[krakatoa]

Wait ..they will be released at appropriate time

it would have been better if you had made the claim at appropriate time as well. you guys are giving too much time to Pakistan to cover things up if you claims are true. you guys are losing credibility of your claims by delaying and becoming a reason for people to have laugh at the claims.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Very well said bro, These past 15 years were very crucial for Pakistan because it was facing heat from both sides of the border and internally. According to the 'powers that be' Pakistan was supposed to end up like Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya, but fortunately we got out it in one piece(literally). Operation Zarb-e-Azb is one the main reason why we are still here, so India has lost all hope and now its going for a face to face confrontation. Other reasons for Pakistan's security are the unbreakable bonds that Pakistan has with brotherly nations, especailly Turkey and China.

Indian establishment's behavior reminds me a story from Nasrettin Hoja. One day the village folks found Hoja at the village center sitting with a basket full of jumbo sized red hot peppers in front of him. Hoja was taking one pepper after another. His face had got red hot with tears coming out from the eyes and nose and smoke from the ears. What's going on Hoja? Are you gonna kill yourself?", the folks wanted to know. Hoja's reply: "At least one of them will turn out to be sweet".

IMHO, the Indian policy makers believe in conjectures, based on their own analysis off course, and then go for the move. In 1971 they were highly successful. Siachen was another success. However, conjectures and ground realities don't always necessarily converge. For some time, since operation Basstacks, it's been diverging specially for the humongous stand-offs. This time it showed the widest angle so far. Insha'Allah it'll get wider and wider...

 

[scionoftheindus]

it would have been better if you had made the claim at appropriate time as well. you guys are giving too much time to Pakistan to cover things up if you claims are true. you guys are losing credibility of your claims by delaying and becoming a reason for people to have laugh at the claims.

No.. actually there is a design here..I feel for govt it's more important to distract the attention from stone pelters in kashmir than to prove the claim of surgical strikes...let us suppose govt released the video the same day when surgical strikes announcement was made, what would we be discussing now?The matter would have been slowly faded from our memory and kashmir would have come to the forefront.
I think modi will allow these speculations to continue for a few more days until complete normalcy restores in kashmir. After the release of those videos both pak and india will be discussing this matter for a month or two more by which time kashmir will be forgotten totally.
Modi is a shrewd politician..never underestimate him..I am perfectly sure that video will be released soon as kashmir is partially back to normal.

 

[Shot-Caller]

No.. actually there is a design here..I feel for govt it's more important to distract the attention from stone pelters in kashmir than to prove the claim of surgical strikes...let us suppose govt released the video the same day when surgical strikes announcement was made, what would we be discussing now?The matter would have been slowly faded from our memory and kashmir would have come to the forefront.
I think modi will allow these speculations to continue for a few more days until complete normalcy restores in kashmir. After the release of those videos both pak and india will be discussing this matter for a month or two more by which time kashmir will be forgotten totally.
Modi is a shrewd politician..never underestimate him..I am perfectly sure that video will be released soon as kashmir is partially back to normal.

You have exposed it all in your own post. This whole drama was created for the attention to be diverted from Kashmir issue. Its alright to respect your army and consider their word credible but what about the credible sources that have visited Pakistani side of Kashmir? They have not seen a single place which has signs of a surgical strike. Pakistani officials took them to the places India claimed. There is nothing to be seen.

So no matter what you say the fact is that Pakistan along with international media have denied a strike and since your government and army both claimed it, both have their reputation on the line. Unless they actually prove it,which I highly doubt since there are no sign of strike to be found, they won't be taken seriously. This will prove to be a huge blow to your army's reputation for playing in the hands of the politicians.

 

[scionoftheindus]

You have exposed it all in your own post. This whole drama was created for the attention to be diverted from Kashmir issue. Its alright to respect your army and consider their word credible but what about the credible sources that have visited Pakistani side of Kashmir? They have not seen a single place which has signs of a surgical strike. Pakistani officials took them to the places India claimed. There is nothing to be seen.

So no matter what you say the fact is that Pakistan along with international media have denied a strike and since your government and army both claimed it, both have their reputation on the line. Unless they actually prove it,which I highly doubt since there are no sign of strike to be found, they won't be taken seriously. This will prove to be a huge blow to your army's reputation for playing in the hands of the politicians.

Indian army has not disclosed places it struck..you can hear the dgmo press conference again on YouTube..all he said was they struck a few launch pads and inflicted considerable damage...rest is all media speculation..p0k is stretched over 250 kms and it is highly impossible for anyone to search that much area in an hour(so no use of taking journalistsmthere ..even locals would not dare talk against army anyway ..why 3 days time to take journalistsmthere?)
Pakistan had destroyed the entire evidence..you could read indian express or watch CNN news 18 (be open minded).. everything is out..pakistani army to save it's face is lying blatantly..even khaleej times today carried the news how your SP ghulam Akbar told the details.
Be rational..don't let your patriotism blind your rational thinking..I assure you ,india will come up with more evidence very soon.