Again, your venting on is "this a joke" is your own frustration in trying to get people to convert to your view based on just your word for it.
How about we just agree to disagree, I made my points, you disputed them, but at same time won't allow to respond as you're threatening to remove my posts if I do respond. And now that you allowed to me put forth some sources, from a mainstream site(which I chose thinking that will be all you accept), you now dismiss the site and the sources. And express dismay with 'copy paste' the evidence, as if there is any other way to reference the Hadith or Quran verses.
Lets start with Surah Ar-raaf, which briefly talks of the lustful desires of the people of Sodom. The condemnation is for lust and seeking it. It is also Lust which drives such acts in many gay communities.. and also in certain truck stops and madressas as well.
God destroyed the tribe of Lot and his community for the 'lustful desires' or the gay ones. I'm not sure what's confusing about the story.
Yet, the penance for this is being given by god and Lut is being asked to leave the place where this is happening. I dont see any proof in whatever you copy pasted based on the Quran that Muslims are supposed to kill gays.
No that is not what happened, Lot was commanded by God to give his people an ultimatum. He warned them and what not, then they threatened to drive him out, but didn't, and rather mocked him. So God destroyed them:
“Bring God’s torment upon us if you are one of the truthful.” (Quran 29:29)
“And when Our messengers [i.e., angels] came to Abraham with the good tidings, they said, “Indeed, we will destroy the people of that [i.e., Lot’s] city. Indeed, its people have been wrongdoers.” (Quran 29:31)
Lets go with the Hadiath then, first.. all of them are based on weak or poorly referenced hadiath and in my view the statement in red HAS no backing except whoever wrote islamqa and I have no trust on them. That leaves the green bit referring to a hadiath which has not been reported in Sahih Bukhari which is taken as the most authoritative source for Hadiath. Then the source of the supporting of the Hadiath is also plainly glazed over as Sahih by a scholar with whom islamqa gives little reference to..
Tirmidi is not weak or poorly based Hadith, it is actually one of six 'Saheeh' books Sunni's use. Sunan Abu Dawood is also one of those six, authentic hadith, and here is that ruling:
Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: If you find anyone doing as Lot’s people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done.
Sunan of Abu-Dawood – Book 38 Hadith 4447
Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death.
Sunan of Abu-Dawood – Book 38 Hadith 4448
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Take hadith out, Islam no longer becomes a way of life and just becomes a collection of stories to ponder upon. So your approach makes no sense if you genuinely believe there is more to your supposedly divine religion than just some stories. If you believe religion is man made and should have no influence on state, lifestyle, personal choices, etc....then I don't get the point of pretending to be a Muslim.
So while you may have luck with convincing non-muslims or those muslims that dont research their religion, but I am not buying any of your supposed rhetoric regarding any religious commandment given ..ESPECIALLY by the Quran and via the Prophet to kill Homosexuals.
You would not know anything about the lifestyle of the Prophet had it not been for Hadith. So I'm dismissing your Quran only approach. Hadith is very essential to Islam, without it, 50% if not more of the religion would be missing.
And I'm not trying to convince non-Muslims of anything. My initial argument was actually intended to defend Muslims from attacks on their religion by people adhering to other Abrahamic faiths, that attacks Islam for 'backwards' lifestyle, 'barbaric laws', etc....When their own religions actually command putting to death gays for one example.
Now I'm just proving the hypocrisy of Muslims, Jews and Christians, all that use the same scripture, that are in denial about their religions. And they do a lot of cutting/pasting, to form new books, to give them moral high ground against other people(in this case Islam), to claim Islam is a Satanic religion and the rest are the true religions brought down by God. Like I said, 90% of you don't even know your religions, the ones that do don't bother following them. It's hypocrisy at it's best. Nobody like that impresses me, they can reap token points all they want, I'm straightforward and honest, which is why I don't use religion for personal benefit, and thereby declared myself agnostic-atheist.