First World War - Finding Pakistan's place in history.

[Kompromat]

Sure. I will wait for the next issue of Hilal discussing Pakistan's role in the conquering of India by the Mughals.

hahaha go and kill the Australian author Dr hannibal lecter

 

[FaujHistorian]

Sure. I will wait for the next issue of Hilal discussing Pakistan's role in the conquering of India by the Mughals.

Please do not go Zaid Hamid on us.

There are no more vacancies for lunies like him.

 

[Kompromat]

you didn't give me the proper answer, why making Tipu Sultan as the part of Pakistani history. Unlike Delhi and Lucknow, Lahore came the centre of Urdu literature very late in 19th century during British rule, the medieval literature in Punjab were in Punjabi by Baba Farid Shah, Waris Shah and Baba Bulleh Shah.

No - Tipu Sultan is part of the Muslim heritage. Just like Sikhs and you claim Bhagat Singh as your own but he was from Lahore.

 

[INDIC]

No - Tipu Sultan is part of the Muslim heritage. Just like Sikhs and you claim Bhagat Singh as your own but he was from Lahore.

Our perception of history is based on the territory that constituted historical India which is the land East of Indus. not just confined to Hindus or Sikhs.

 

[FaujHistorian]

However, a lot of these leaders had their roots east of that line. Jinnah was Gujrati.. many senior leaders from UP, Bengal.. etc.
It was a national-"Indian" movement which is why it was the All India Muslim league and not the "Punjab-Sindh-NWFP-Balochistan" Muslim league.

My question was specific to @INDIC

He incorrectly placed Jinnah on the other side of the border.

My answer? Jinnah was born in Karachi.

Not that complicated. Right?


ML had leaders from Muslim dominated areas.

It is important to keep in mind the difference between the history of a State and the history of the land and people it comprises.

you bhai sahib

want to use your own perception and not the reality, in order to downplay the role of modern day Pakistanis and their forefathers.

And
that's sad if not downright dishonest.

 

[VCheng]

See this is why I say, please live in pothohar for a while, study the people and study the history.

If you rely in 5th grade history books of government schools, you will remain unaware.

Okay, please tell us how the Potoharis contributed to the process that led to the formation of Pakistan?

 

[Kompromat]

Our perception of history is based on the territory that constituted historical India which is the land East of Indus. not just confined to Hindus or Sikhs.

Our historic narrative is based on people who shared our way of

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Predecessor states of Pakistan always changed but never the people, races, civilisation and history. No one kicked us out from our country, we always remained the same people (pashtun, baloch, kashmiris, sindhis and punjabis).

Seriously!!!!!

Islam itself is 1700 years old but Indus civilization you quoted is more than 5000 years old and was hindus.. More over Islam came to So called todays Pakistan only in 1200 AD, so what were you or your people were during that time?? You have changed your race, civilization, history and your people too....everything for that matter.

Go and read neutral history from neutral authors from around the world. and Yes history does not start from 1947 or since the start of Islam, History is much much older than that.

 

[VCheng]

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you bhai sahib
want to use your own perception and not the reality, in order to downplay the role of modern day Pakistanis and their forefathers.
And
that's sad if not downright dishonest.

Actually Sir, I am being more honest with reality than you might be willing to admit.

 

[Kompromat]

Seriously!!!!!

Islam itself is 1700 years old but Indus civilization you quoted is more than 5000 years old and was hindus.. More over Islam came to So called todays Pakistan only in 1200 AD, so what were you or your people were during that time?? You have changed your race, civilization, history and your people too....everything for that matter.

Go and read neutral history from neutral authors from around the world. and Yes history does not start from 1947 or since the start of Islam, History is much much older than that.

* Islam is 1400 years old
* IVC was not a Hindu civilization, they followed another extinct form of paganism including Buddhism.
* Doesn't matter - its still OUR heritage, not yours.

 

[Cherokee]

No - Tipu Sultan is part of the Muslim heritage. Just like Sikhs and you claim Bhagat Singh as your own but he was from Lahore.

Muslim heritage . Hahahahahahahahahahah

Pakistanis would be the first country to get something on heritage based on religion . Congratulations !!. .

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Yes, that is a valid point. You can say Pakistanis have lived for centuries but not Pakistan as a State.

They did but not as Pakistanis. More over they have changed from one race to another, from one civilization to another, they have abondoned their history and moved to different religion which was not part of their history.

I seriously fail to understand why Pakistan claim Indus valley civilization as their lineage or legacy when they have abandoned it, its preaching, its teachings, its scriptures, its deities, its way of living etc.

Why will you guys promote it which is against the rule of Islam, glorifying anything other than Islam!!!

 

[Cherokee]

* Islam is 1400 years old
* IVC was not a Hindu civilization, they followed another extinct form of paganism including Buddhism.
* Doesn't matter - its still OUR heritage, not yours.

Islam is very young . 1400 years is nothing .
IVC was and is hindu civilization . Only a bigot oxymoron would call Hinduism and buddhism paganism .
Nothing is your heritage . Either lay claim on your culture or religion . Not on both . Its stupid beyond comprehension .

 

[FaujHistorian]

Sure, if brining peace meant ensuring the victory of the powers who then focused on the unjust process by which Israel was created..

Must we drag Isarel in this?


Winners get the spoils of war.

Losers like Mufti-e-Azam aka minister in the court of Hitler, do what?

--- Well! they loose.

 

[unbiasedopinion]

* IVC was not a Hindu civilization, they followed another extinct form of paganism including Buddhism.

Now you are claiming Buddhism pre-date Hinduism. Anyways glad you agreed you have changed races, civilization. Can you modify your original post then?

Doesn't matter - its still OUR heritage, not yours.

Shouldnt you be shamed of this heritage because thats the reason why you left it and move to some other race, civilization, religion.

 

[Kompromat]

Muslim heritage . Hahahahahahahahahahah

Pakistanis would be the first country to get something on heritage based on religion . Congratulations !!. .

Islam is very young . 1400 years is nothing .
IVC was and is hindu civilization . Only a bigot oxymoron would call Hinduism and buddhism paganism .
Nothing is your heritage . Either lay claim on your culture or religion . Not on both . Its stupid beyond comprehension .

Both of them are ours. Buy yourself some peanuts

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Anyways glad you agreed you have changed races, civilization. Can you modify your original post then?

I wrongly put it against your reply. it was meant for original poster of the quote whom i was replying.