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First offical indication of Pakistani armed forces getting involved in Palestine-Israel conflict?

It's truly pathetic how your "go to" statement is trying to guilt-trip Pakistanis. Unfortunately for you, bud, I have lived through the Vietnam War, Cold War, Gulf War l/ll, Balkan War, Lebanon War, Arab-pissraeli War and have studied the Western modus operandi for decades. So I know that tactics you would play out, it has failed.

Uyghurs is a separatist movement, it's got nothing to do with Islam. China is a "civilization" dating back thousands of years. China knows and respects other faiths and countries. Otherwise one of its most important allies wouldn't be a Muslim country. China has also experienced being invaded by imperialist/colonialist dogs like britain, netherlands and Japan. So it knows what it is like to be oppressed and unlike those Zionist-Scum who brutally oppress Palestinians for the last 72 years despite experiencing the so-called holocaust. China doesn't go someone else's land, occupies it, brutally oppresses the indigenous population and then cries wolf over trinket firecrackers popping over its airspace like p!g$.

Go back to school kiddo, you need to come up with something more convincing, not the broken record you sound like right now.

It's not my record, it is what the majority of the civilized world has investigated and found to be factual, including many Islamic countries. BUT BUT we get that they should throw that aside and go with your narrative because, after all... it's you and your findings that say Uyghur Muslims in China are all separatists/terrorists and deserve the Chinese action- genocide.
It is a very nice speech indeed. Very forceful.

The subtly of that post, I'd bet will be missed by most
 
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The duplicity of him ignoring and setting aside the Uyghur genocide makes this a rather odd request.

Btw, why on earth will Pakistan get involved in any operation and invite the wrath of the Israelis to do what they do in Iran frequently inside Pakistan, and then take on the US too?

1. Uyghurs don't resonate with Muslims because nobody really knew of them before the Western Fake News started the whole BS.

2. Most Pakistani don't believe in the Fake News against Chinese Uyghurs... Including me.

3. There is no Holy connection with Uyghur lands like there is with Palestine and Al Aqsa.
 
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The duplicity of him ignoring and setting aside the Uyghur genocide makes this a rather odd request.

Btw, why on earth will Pakistan get involved in any operation and invite the wrath of the Israelis to do what they do in Iran frequently inside Pakistan, and then take on the US too?
Come on dude, stop pretending and following a wrong narrative. There is no genocide despite massive propaganda being spewed out there... stay focused on where the genocide is... nice try,
 
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Let's play along with this idea of a coalition of the willing. Let's talk military tactics and approach

Where are the troops housed? do you imagine Isreal and the US allowing you to ferry troops into Palestine? there is a complete blockade on the sea, even Turkey can't ferry into Palestine without Isreal allowing it.

What happens when the US and Israel attack your country in return. Or did you imagine that they would be no counterattack, or somehow you could attack Isreal and both US and Isreal would keep it to Isreal only?

Whoes asking for US of A and Israel permission? This will be implemented over recognised "Palestinian territory".

If you have not already noticed, I would strongly recommend you paying attention to China's tone on this particular issue. The game as got a lot more complicated then the whims and wishes of USA and Israel. Wont be surprised a bit if this coalition of willing got the blessing for some other powers to be.
 
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Muslims today is because of terrorists propagating their cause as a cause that Islam calls them to do.
Islam has been around for a long time. I certainly did not see "Islamic terrorism" in 1960s, 1970s, 1980s. It only began in 1990s and then took off in the 2000s.

On the other hand lot of terrorismn has been informed by the Palestine issue. We saw that in examples of Munich, George Habash, Entebbe etc but during those decades it had secular bent to it but over time it has become dressed as "Muslim".

However the underlying dynamic has been same and the biggest factor has been Palestine.
 
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It is a very nice speech indeed. Very forceful.


Is it just me or there is a sense that all the talks of Quad, SCS, Uyghur issue, etc is now coming to bite on the arse, where it hurt most, American soft spot, Israel?

I have not heard or experienced such harsh Chinese tone over this current crisis.

SMQ hard hitting speech and his carefree in your face interview on CNN, its kinda all adding up that there is a blanket blessing from powers to be. Interesting days ahead in greater middle east.
 
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Whoes asking for US of A and Israel permission? This will be implemented over recognised "Palestinian territory".

If you have not already noticed, I would strongly recommend you paying attention to China's tone on this particular issue. The game as got a lot more complicated then the whims and wishes of USA and Israel. Wont be surprised a bit if this coalition of willing got the blessing for some other powers to be.

Dude, I don't know who plants these fantastical notions in your head, but in the real world, China (a genocide perpetrator of Muslims, ironically), won't give 2 hoots about any military action in Isreal. China can't even stop us in the S China sea when they claim we infringe on their very OWN sovereign seas, BUT you think they would want to take on military action in Isreal for Palestine? What universe are you living in - bud.

Nobody can get even a single ferry to come across into Palestine, you won't get any troops allowed. Isreal owns the seas surrounding it.

Nobody will do anything, let alone any coalition of the willing. This is a fantastical aspirational idea for some- but will never see the light of day, not now, not ever.
Is it just me or there is a sense that all the talks of Quad, SCS, Uyghur issue, etc is now coming to bite on the arse, where it hurt most, American soft spot, Israel?

I have not heard or experienced such harsh Chinese tone over this current crisis.

SMQ hard hitting speech and his carefree in your face interview on CNN, its kinda all adding up that there is a blanket blessing from powers to be. Interesting days ahead in greater middle east.

I don't think you got the subtly behind vCheng's response.
 
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It's truly pathetic how your "go to" statement is trying to guilt-trip Pakistanis. Unfortunately for you, bud, I have lived through the Vietnam War, Cold War, Gulf War l/ll, Balkan War, Lebanon War, Arab-pissraeli War and have studied the Western modus operandi for decades. So I know that tactics you would play out, it has failed.

Uyghurs is a separatist movement, it's got nothing to do with Islam. China is a "civilization" dating back thousands of years. China knows and respects other faiths and countries. Otherwise one of its most important allies wouldn't be a Muslim country. China has also experienced being invaded by imperialist/colonialist dogs like britain, netherlands and Japan. So it knows what it is like to be oppressed and unlike those Zionist-Scum who brutally oppress Palestinians for the last 72 years despite experiencing the so-called holocaust. China doesn't go someone else's land, occupies it, brutally oppresses the indigenous population and then cries wolf over trinket firecrackers popping over its airspace like p!g$.

Go back to school kiddo, you need to come up with something more convincing, not the broken record you sound like right now.

Asalaamualaykum brother, you should not write "pissrael" because Israel is a name of Yaqub (as).
 
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Dude, I don't know who plants these fantastical notions in your head, but in the real world, China (a genocide perpetrator of Muslims, ironically), won't give 2 hoots about any military action in Isreal. China can't even stop us in the S China sea when they claim we infringe on their very OWN sovereign seas, BUT you think they would want to take on military action in Isreal for Palestine? What universe are you living in - bud.

Nobody can get even a single ferry to come across into Palestine, you won't get any troops allowed. Isreal owns the seas surrounding it.

Nobody will do anything, let alone any coalition of the willing. This is a fantastical aspirational idea for some- but will never see the light of day, not now, not ever.


I don't think you got the subtly behind vCheng's response.
Regarding your sea blockade point.

Don't you think the Israeli navys blockade of gaza and the surrounding area can be easily broken considering the small size of the fleet?

Regarding your uyghyur genocide point

At this moment in time you can't believe anyone. You can't believe the west nor can you believe the Chinese. If you want to believe something, then go to affected area and form your own opinion. Until then no one is to be trusted. Simple as.

Also nice derailment of the thread. Serving your master proud I see :)
 
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At this point, with practically a majority of the world, including the UN speaking out against the way Uyghurs are being persecuted, being that Pakistani who wants to be a part-time Muslim conveniently because economically China supports you, is an argument trying to convince the select few.

By pretending to be purposefully blind to the Muslim genocide in China, you don't hurt the rest of us. Rather it just confirms what we have suspected about your true values.

I agree China is trying to decimate the uighurs.

However you are not highlighting their plight because your government cares. It is purely being done because the US is an enemy of China and painting China as a cruel nation helps in the PR war against them. And no doubt America wants China to have a falling out with Muslim countries around central asia and highlighting the genocide of uighurs is one way to do it. You have no moral highground here.

Most pakistanis who believe China is doing nothing simply just think it's western propaganda. You will find very few Pakistan who believe uighurs are being mistreated + they still support China.
 
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The duplicity of him ignoring and setting aside the Uyghur genocide makes this a rather odd request.

Btw, why on earth will Pakistan get involved in any operation and invite the wrath of the Israelis to do what they do in Iran frequently inside Pakistan, and then take on the US too?
Yes its duplicity
But isnt the west also showing duplicity with respect to isreal???
 
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Dude, I don't know who plants these fantastical notions in your head, but in the real world, China (a genocide perpetrator of Muslims, ironically), won't give 2 hoots about any military action in Isreal. China can't even stop us in the S China sea when they claim we infringe on their very OWN sovereign seas, BUT you think they would want to take on military action in Isreal for Palestine? What universe are you living in - bud.

Nobody can't get even a ferry to come across into Palestine, you won't get any troops allowed. Isreal owns the seas surrounding it.

Nobody will do anything, let alone any coalition of the willing. This is a fantastical aspirational idea for some- but will never see the light of day, not now, not ever.


I don't think you got the subtly behind vCheng's response.

Sunshine, this particular point I raised, is not just in my head but has been discussed in media. Your ignorance is no excuse.

Where is Chinese genocide? I am Muslim, Pakistani, no one in my 220 million strong nation gives two hoot or pay attention to this so called genocide? But everyone can see that American supported and supplied lunatic nations like Israel and India are worst criminals when it comes to genocide of Muslims. America own record in waging wars on Muslims soil is for everyone to see.

Again, you stupidity got no bounds. Pay attention to events happening around you. It was China which raised this issue in security council and Palestinians thanked China for the support. Chinese tone has been very harsh against Israel and America on this current situation. Chinese have already got a lot of good will among the Muslim world for their stance against Israel.

America wants to play Uyghur issue, SCS, and what not, China knows American soft spots. There are consequences on their way, mark my words. Israel will be the punching bag to humiliate America.

Just look around, China's biggest ally Pakistan humbled American in Afghanistan so much so that American end up negotiating with Pakistan own proxy, the Taliban. China then forcefully annexed 1200 sq km of Indian claimed territory, another American side kick state, and not a whimper was heard from America.

You are living in cuckooland, maybe stuck in unipolar world of the begone era.
 
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The duplicity of him ignoring and setting aside the Uyghur genocide makes this a rather odd request.

Btw, why on earth will Pakistan get involved in any operation and invite the wrath of the Israelis to do what they do in Iran frequently inside Pakistan, and then take on the US too?

Uyghur genocide happens in underground concentration camps. That's why if you go to Xinjiang as tourist and fly your DJI quad copter around you cannot find concentration camp above ground.
 
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The duplicity of him ignoring and setting aside the Uyghur genocide makes this a rather odd request.

Btw, why on earth will Pakistan get involved in any operation and invite the wrath of the Israelis to do what they do in Iran frequently inside Pakistan, and then take on the US too?
A fucking troll alert a Hindutva asshole is her
 
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