First batch of license built T-90 tanks

[agastya]

nope shotra suite is a part of bhisma

 

[beckham]

"especially if Shtora and Arena defensive protection systems are integrated in it"
meaning Shotra is not part of Indian T-90??

Indian T-90S tanks are not equipped with the Shtora-1 counter measures suite , but i with a modernized version of this suite.there is confusion about because it was bought in a separate contract for shipment.

It also has 9K119 Reflex ATGM capability

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Indian T-90S tanks are not equipped with the Shtora-1 counter measures suite , but i with a modernized version of this suite.there is confusion about because it was bought in a separate contract for shipment.

It also has 9K119 Reflex ATGM capability

ohh so thts y some articles were quoting tht Shotra is not part of deal thanks for clearing

 

[TaimiKhan]

ohh so thts y some articles were quoting tht Shotra is not part of deal thanks for clearing

The Indians have already issued proposals for APS systems from other manufacturers, IMI as well as Rafael, BAE Systems, Raytheon, Rosoboronexport, Saab, and Germany’s IBD Deisenroth Engineering are the main contenders. They are looking for a hard kill kind of APS in my opinion.

 

[garibnawaz]

Is that get up supposed to give it a more "Indian" feel? To be honest it looks disgusting in all that flower-vomit.

Its a traditional Indian way. Even when people buy cars they cover the new car with flowers.
Only the first tank is covered with Flowers. Have respect for other cultures.

Anyway, congratulations on duplicating the T-90. Does anyone know how many license built T-90's IA plans to induct?

Nobody has duplicated anything. India has a license to produce T-90's locally just like the T-72's. The tanks are still called as T-90 christened as Bhishma in the Indian Army. Just as T-72 is christened as Ajeya.

Wiki sources claim India plans to build a 1000 of these monsters. That's quite a lot of MBTs. Someone's definitely gearing up for a future offensive.

India has to replace the old T-55's and Vijayanta's and with Arjun project not going as per the plan India has no choice.

India also produced some 1000+ T-72's locally.

GB

 

[beckham]

SHTORA-1 Active Defense System

A typical deployment of IR jammer can be seen on the Russian T-90, which mounts the Shtora-1 Defensive Aids System (DAS) shown on picture, with Kontakt5 ERA modules .

The system protects the tank against guided missiles, using both the semi-active command to line of sight (SACLOS) guidance, by an IR source that mimics the flare on the back of missiles, as well as laser beam riders and laser-homing weapons. It should be effective against missiles such as the TOW, HOT, AT-4, AT-5 and Sagger (Malyutka). The Russian system also has some capability to counter laser-guided munitions and ATGMs (Such as Hellfire, Kornet etc).

Shtora-1 uses a laser warning device operating in the 0.65-1.6 micron range, comprising of an array of coarse and fine resolution sensors, mounted externally on the turret. Each of the rough (coarse) laser sensor covers a sector of 135 degrees, while the fine sensor covers a 45 degrees, with 3.75 degrees angle of arrival resolution, and -5 to 25 deg. elevation coverage. The system can automatically slew the turret and gun at the direction of the threat, to optimize the deployment of a thermal smoke screen or activation of active protection systems. The sensor detects laser illuminating and alerts the crew and defensive systems. The warning display provides the commander and gunner with threat warning cueing, by sector (at a resolution of 5 degrees) and at a resolution of 3.75 degrees at the 90 deg. frontal arc. The display also provides jammer and countermeasures status indication. Countermeasures can employ a 81mm thermal instant smoke grenades, which deploy an instant smoke screen at a range of 50-80 meters from the tank, within 1.5 - 3 seconds. The 20 meter wide, 15 meter high screen blocks visual, thermal and laser (0.4 - 14 micron) wave bands. The system also employs a pair of electro-optical jammer, designated TShU1-7, which "hijacks" the missile's command link by feeding the tracker with modulated signals that cause the missile to deviate from its course, and away from its intended target

 

[TaimiKhan]

T-90 with Shotra APS

 

[beckham]

T-90 with Shotra APS

n2LWsBLj15c[/media] - T90 Russian Tank

 

[garibnawaz]

P.S: 'Flower vomit' - clever characterization Bezerk

As a moderator I expected respect from you for the other cultures. I guess I was wrong and expected too much from you.

GB

 

[vsdoc]

I find something difficult to understand, though admittedly I am not very technical militarily like some of you veterans here.

If India can manufacture a complex piece of equipment like a main battle tank, and a nuclear submarine, why cant we also make something like the Bofors on our own?

Is it something to do with accuracy needed over a much longer range which makes it a more technically sophisticated process?

This is in response to a newspaper article today (or yesterday?) stating that there is HUGE exercise on for purchasing the next generation of guns to replace the ageing Bofors ...... at some humungous cost to our exchequer.

Sorry for going a lil OT, but I'm hoping someone can shed some light on this.

Cheers, Doc

 

[duhastmish]

I HEARD in news that arjun is coming to action too very soon.

t-90 bhishma - does anyboyd have more detailed analysis of this tank???? so we can compare to some of other top tanks?
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as for flower vomit - that was in humor and it does look like flower vomit - but it still look better than constipated shyt green of pakistani tank ???? lool just in humor - take it easy guys .

there are too many things to fight about - let the flower n stuff stay away.

 

[Tango25]

Actually, I'll blame Bezerk here for his "flower vomit" comments and other worthless "trash-talk".

In the absence of any real technical knowledge, "trash-talk" is the only mode of discussion here it seems.

 

[garibnawaz]

If India can manufacture a complex piece of equipment like a main battle tank, and a nuclear submarine, why cant we also make something like the Bofors on our own?

Making something at our own means no foriegn purchase.

No foriegn purchase means killing commission of our babus and politicians.

No commission means no swiss bank accounts.

How will our politicians and appareantly country will function then?

GB

 

[vsdoc]

That would be a pretty obvious though cynical option

But then does it not equally hold true for the tanks then? Or other stuff which we do make?

Are we then speaking of strong versus not so strong foreign lobbies at play here? Coz corruption is not an Indian phenomenon alone.

Cheers, Doc

 

[garibnawaz]

That would be a pretty obvious though cynical option

But then does it not equally hold true for the tanks then? Or other stuff which we do make?

Are we then speaking of strong versus not so strong foreign lobbies at play here? Coz corruption is not an Indian phenomenon alone.

Cheers, Doc

Sir with all do respect. Making a T-90 is not something that you made it at your own. Its made under Transfer of technology. So no big deal and can't be comapred with indegenious stuff or with statement like making something at your own.

Same way we have earlier made T-72's , BMP-1/2'
s, HDW-309 submarines and now making Scorpenes.

Making something at your own means Arjun, LCA, Dhurv, Pinaka, Delhi Class Destroyers, Shivalik Class Frigates, Kolkata Class Destroyers etc.

Naval shipbuilding has a huge success in indegenious shipbuilding which includes the nuke sub.

However things with tanks, aircrafts have not gone with the way we wanted.

The situation is improving with the participation of Pvt companies which was allowed in 2004. ATV, Pinaka, NAMICA are some of the examples of success which involved pvt firms.

GB