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Finally, The Economist speaks!

It is nice to know that India is capable of achieving such a coup!

Maybe this time they will fund Khaleda to keep the balance of fondness!

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This must have shaken up the posters here.

Two threads on the same issue is running concurrently!

The same confusion is here as it is in BD politics?
 
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Two threads on the same issue is running concurrently!

The same confusion is here as it is in BD politics?

Goes to show how shallow most of your posts are. Did you not notice that the new thread on this topic was started by a fellow indian? Now who's confused?:cheesy:
 
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So what happens if AL comes back to power again in 2013? Are we going to have to endure 5 more years of whining from Bangladeshis or will you guys just give up?

dont worry they will come if not another friendly leader of opposition will be pm...making things easy for us
 
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Goes to show how shallow most of your posts are. Did you not notice that the new thread on this topic was started by a fellow indian? Now who's confused?:cheesy:

OK friend, the Economist says that you all are dumb and stupid. That must be true, right?

Here it goes

The Economist on Iraq

The Alex Jones Channel Infowars store

Political Theatrics
September 2, 2010

The Economist is always an interesting newspaper to read. For myself, I’m especially fascinated with the uniquely Western perspective that it portrays as neutral and balanced. In their recent issue they ponder over Iraq’s uncertain future and in one part of the article they say:

For their part, the people of Iraq never learned to trust, let alone like, the Americans. Yet public opinion has shifted remarkably in recent weeks. After countless American warnings of their imminent departure, all met with stubborn Iraqi insistence that the “occupiers” would never leave, the penny has suddenly dropped. [Emphasis added]

This is a nice paragraph. In one fell swoop it addresses that Arab mind and its love of conspiracies, it affirms the importance of America’s invasion and occupation of Iraq and it continues the enduring myth that the natives cannot go it alone without Western arms and brains.

What does The Economist mean when it says “the penny has suddenly dropped”. It means that these pesky natives were always suspicious of the well-meaning White Man’s intentions. These suspicions were fuelling insecurity but now the clever American has called this bluff and really done it – the newspaper is saying “let us see these children sort themselves out now”, because the Arab will never be able to do anything on their own. It’s the Arab mind you see…

Also interesting to note is that the public opinion which has “shifted remarkably” for The Economist is expressed in the piece by a ‘Wesam’ who, it is claimed, is a junior army officer. Well yes, it is true that the fledgling Iraqi ‘army’ that the Americans have created will fear the loss of American troops, but where is the public opinion? Does that mean that the entire Iraqi people were mistaken in opposing America’s invasion and occupation of their country? Apparently that’s what The Economist thinks. Fair enough. But wait, the “positive side” to the American invasion and occupation of Iraq, an occupation which the Economist always seems to put in quotation marks, is that the “tyrannical rule of Saddam Hussein” was ended. Yes, he was a thug, but for some reason the public opinion that remarkably shifted to viewing his rule with sympathy compared with the American occupation is not something The Economist is interested in. No, it is far more important to read the musings of a junior officer in an Iraqi “Vichy” army as the public opinion of Iraq.



Far more serious than the above is what The Economist views as progress in the country. Only the “tyrannical” Saddam’s deputy, Izzat al Douri, has eluded capture. So that’s a good thing, the ancient regime is extinct. Also, American soldiers were “flexible enough to change tactics”, by this The Economist means it “recruited local allies”, meaning the Sahwa groups. The Sahwa groups were paid money to fight for the Americans, if somebody paid them more then they would go fight for the otherside. Therefore these are not allies. The Americans effectively hired local mercenaries to do the dirty work for them. Also, apparently this is a good alternative to the “unadulterated fire power” that the American troops favoured at first. Well I suppose that must be a good thing. The rest of the article bashes the new Iraqi “straw-man” for being incompetent and not sorting out his security and politics fast enough for America’s liking.
» The Economist on Iraq Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!


It is the shallow people who have no time to research and instead like to ride their favourite hobby horses and come out real silly in their posts and then when rebutted look idiotic!
 
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Apocalypse,

Iraqis and the Arabs, to whom some claim as descendants, are stupid?

The Economist, which all are hailing as pure as the Gospel, are stating the truth, right?

Shallow are the people who are blind and believe the FIRST written word and never use their brains since they a plumb lazy!
 
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All claims indians were making Awami regime being elected by people are exposed wide open. Predicted indian defense is discredit Economist or any other news that exposes subservient indian activities and their stooges in Bangladesh. People should should just turn off indian whining channel and look into what else awami regime is doing to undermine Bangladesh sovereignty. For example after giving away 264 acres of land Awami contemplating giving more land in Jakiganj border.

Ever since 2008, when the Awami League, helped by bags of Indian cash and advice, triumphed in general elections in Bangladesh, relations with India have blossomed.

India and Bangladesh: Embraceable you | The Economist
 
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All claims indians were making Awami regime being elected by people are exposed wide open. Predicted indian defense is discredit Economist or any other news that exposes subservient indian activities and their stooges in Bangladesh. People should should just turn off indian whining channel and look into what else awami regime is doing to undermine Bangladesh sovereignty. For example after giving away 264 acres of land Awami contemplating giving more land in Jakiganj border.

The answer is in:

» The Economist on Iraq Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

I’m especially fascinated with the uniquely Western perspective that it portrays as neutral and balanced.

The person is not an Indian who wrote this.
 
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LOL, Alex Jones, hardcore ultra leftist? He is no Indian but likewise he has no credibility.

Something wrong in being a leftist?

Capitalism knows only one color: that color is green; all else is necessarily subservient to it, hence, race, gender and ethnicity cannot be considered within it.

One sage stated that.

Anybody who says anything that is not suitable to the US and the WASP sentiments is a liberal or a leftist!

What's new?

The Economist justified the Iraq War.

So, the Iraq war is totally moral! Since the Economist backed it, you must be amongst those who feel that the US and UK are justified to spread their ideas of Freedom and Democracy.


Bangaldesh would love if some Freedom and Democracy visits them?!

I am sure the Economist will run a report to suggest that it was just what was required, as in Iraq, because of the 'tyrannical rule of Sk Hasina' as they mentioned of Saddam Hussein.
 
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Something wrong in being a leftist?

Capitalism knows only one color: that color is green; all else is necessarily subservient to it, hence, race, gender and ethnicity cannot be considered within it.

One sage stated that.

Anybody who says anything that is not suitable to the US and the WASP sentiments is a liberal or a leftist!

What's new?

The Economist justified the Iraq War.

So, the Iraq war is totally moral! Since the Economist backed it, you must be amongst those who feel that the US and UK are justified to spread their ideas of Freedom and Democracy.


Bangaldesh would love if some Freedom and Democracy visits them?!

I am sure the Economist will run a report to suggest that it was just what was required, as in Iraq, because of the 'tyrannical rule of Sk Hasina' as they mentioned of Saddam Hussein.

The Iraq War could have been avoided if America had taken prior steps to remove Saddam Hussein from power. The war had dire consequences, but the US had a moral obligation to remove Saddam Hussein from power as it had supported a dictator and funded it when it served its purpose. I do not want Bangladesh to become such a state and therefore the eggs has to be destroyed before it hatches.
Anyways, Alex Jones is popular for his extreme conspiracy views and has no credibility on his work. If I supported his other conspiracy views on this forum, the reactions from you will be pretty much predictable. But to agree 100% with the Economist all the time would be equally insane, but this article is an exact reflection of the regime we have now, and there is more than enough reasons to believe and agree with this particular title.


PS : Yes, you are correct, I fully support any initiatives which support to bring democracy and freedom in any country, which America has been falsely preaching because it has supported brutal dictators for strategic interests.
 
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The Iraq War could have been avoided if America had taken prior steps to remove Saddam Hussein from power. The war had dire consequences, but the US had a moral obligation to remove Saddam Hussein from power as it had supported a dictator and funded it when it served its purpose. I do not want Bangladesh to become such a state and therefore the eggs has to be destroyed before it hatches.
Anyways, Alex Jones is popular for his extreme conspiracy views and has no credibility on his work. If I supported his other conspiracy views on this forum, the reactions from you will be pretty much predictable. But to agree 100% with the Economist all the time would be equally insane, but this article is an exact reflection of the regime we have now, and there is more than enough reasons to believe and agree with this particular title.


PS : Yes, you are correct, I fully support any initiatives which support to bring democracy and freedom in any country, which America has been falsely preaching because it has supported brutal dictators for strategic interests.

I don't wish to move off from the topic, but have you ever wondered, if any country has the right to remove Govts that they don't like on grounds that they are tyrannical dictators?

At that rate, half the world would see regime changes!!

Saddam was a hero to the US when he took on Iran and then he became a 'tyrannical dictator'! One wonders if Saddam was a 'quick change artist' or the US.

What moral obligation did US have to topple Saddam? How is it that the US failed to exercise it elsewhere, where genocide was on like Rwanda or in Zimbabwe?

Odd.

So, you would support Freedom and Democracy in China.
 
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Apocalypse,

Iraqis and the Arabs, to whom some claim as descendants, are stupid?

The Economist, which all are hailing as pure as the Gospel, are stating the truth, right?

Shallow are the people who are blind and believe the FIRST written word and never use their brains since they a plumb lazy!

Why do you have to repeat this Arab descendent clause every time. There are many bloods infused in the Bangali Muslim blood. This is a historical fact. Even your loved Sheikh Hasina's family claims they are descendents of a Baghdad Arab. Do not just try to indulge yourself in making comments on subjects that happened in the past, and you are certainly not a Historian nor an anthropologist. Stop bad mouthing a part of our history as well as forebearers.
 
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Why do you have to repeat this Arab descendent clause every time. There are many bloods infused in the Bangali Muslim blood. This is a historical fact. Even your loved Sheikh Hasina's family claims they are descendents of a Baghdad Arab. Do not just try to indulge yourself in making comments on subjects that happened in the past, and you are certainly not a Historian nor an anthropologist. Stop bad mouthing a part of our history as well as forebearers.

Iraq is in Arab Middle East.

It is for the very reason I asked Apocalypse if he thought Sheik Hasina (note Sheik) who claims to be a Baghdadi (and hence the connection) is stupid?

I can't stop her or others from claiming Arab descent, can I?

I have studied history, but true I am not an anthropologist, biologist or a zoologist.
 
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Iraq is in Arab Middle East.

It is for the very reason I asked Apocalypse if he thought Sheik Hasina (note Sheik) who claims to be a Baghdadi (and hence the connection) is stupid?

I can't stop her or others from claiming Arab descent, can I?

I have studied history, but true I am not an anthropologist, biologist or a zoologist.

If you are fond of history then study minutely the political history of Muslim Bengal. Note how it started with the influx of foreign migrant Turkic Muslims from Afghanistn. Read also more upheavals, political uprisings, Muslims killing Muslims in this area, influx of more Muslims from lands west of Bengal. In reality, Arab bloods are quite less than the bloods from other areas. But, now, we are all mixed among each other and also with the olocal Budhists and Hindus who converted to Islam. No one can claim a direct pure blood line from any distinct group. We are now Bangali muslims.
 
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