Fighting Terrorism in Xinjiang

[beijingwalker]

Not my job to pick them out for you.

You can't , cause they don't exist.

 

[Dinky]

Not all Turkic cultures are the same, they are just similar.
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The point is the population is all Muslims and yet they are still being repressed. You claim Religion(Islam) has its own culture and yet that culture is being repressed in Central Asian Countries.

Tajiks are not Turkic.

Ethnically maybe not, but culturally they are as they are surrounded by other Turks.

 

[Godman]

Pal, you are clueless.... tamil insurgency was your own doing and when you subjugate people to the point they take up arms against the dictatorship.... freedom fighters or what ever; you sowed your own seeds of destruction and got it back.
Back to china.... incarcerating entire population and brainwashing them to say there is no god and uncle mao and commie party is god... really.
nothing further to add.... no more replies my stand on uighur is well known.

What "Subjugation" are you talking about?

 

[Kyle Sun]

Enough is enough. China has tons of ridiculous policies favoring those fking Uighurs. And the outcome is a load of brainwashed Uighur terrorists. Such stupid move should have been terminated years ago. I have fed up with those XJ BS. If those fking Uighur terrorists don't like carrot, feed them bullets.

 

[denel]

Enough is enough. China has tons of ridiculous policies favoring those fking Uighurs. And the outcome is a load of brainwashed Uighur terrorists. Such stupid move should have been terminated years ago. I have fed up with those XJ BS. If those fking Uighur terrorists don't like carrot, feed them bullets.

then it is time for them to seperate and become independent vs subjugating to attrocities with mindset like yours. Just another communist party troll. if you had no issues killing your own by the millions by the gang of four and so called great leap into the darkness or Tiannemien square massacre; then what hope there is for others as well.

 

[Hamza913]

The point is the population is all Muslims and yet they are still being repressed.

Not quite, they're better described as mainly being Agnostic/Atheist. This is a psychological remnant of the USSR subjugating their countries.

You claim Religion(Islam) has its own culture and yet that culture is being repressed in Central Asian Countries.

Because many of them are not practising Muslims. What part of this is hard to fathom?

Ethnically maybe not

Not "maybe", the answer is a firm no.

but culturally they are

Again, no. Their culture is most similar to Persians.

 

[beijingwalker]

CCTV tribute to the officers died in fighting terrorists in Xinjiang, most of them are ethnic Uighur officers.

 

[艹艹艹]

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Uighurs are literally closer to people from Anatolia than the Hans, so don't play the culture card.

no they are not- Research on their genetics as proven it:

https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/34/10/2572/3864506

The Uyghur people residing in Xinjiang, a territory located in the far west of China and crossed by the Silk Road, are a key ethnic group for understanding the history of human dispersion in Eurasia. Here we assessed the genetic structure and ancestry of 951 Xinjiang’s Uyghurs (XJU) representing 14 geographical subpopulations. We observed a southwest and northeast differentiation within XJU, which was likely shaped jointly by the Tianshan Mountains, which traverses from east to west as a natural barrier, and gene flow from both east and west directions. In XJU, we identified four major ancestral components that were potentially derived from two earlier admixed groups: one from the West, harboring European (25–37%) and South Asian ancestries (12–20%), and the other from the East, with Siberian (15–17%) and East Asian (29–47%) ancestries. By using a newly developed method, MultiWaver, the complex admixture history of XJU was modeled as a two-wave admixture. An ancient wave was dated back to ∼3,750 years ago (ya), which is much earlier than that estimated by previous studies, but fits within the range of dating of mummies that exhibited European features that were discovered in the Tarim basin, which is situated in southern Xinjiang (4,000–2,000 ya); a more recent wave occurred around 750 ya, which is in agreement with the estimate from a recent study using other methods. We unveiled a more complex scenario of ancestral origins and admixture history in XJU than previously reported, which further suggests Bronze Age massive migrations in Eurasia and East-West contacts across the Silk Road.



Ancient DNA reveals a migration of the ancient Di‐qiang populations into Xinjiang as early as the early Bronze Age

Xinjiang is at the crossroads between East and West Eurasia, and it harbors a relatively complex genetic history. In order to better understand the population movements and interactions in this region, mitochondrial and Y chromosome analyses on 40 ancient human remains from the Tianshanbeilu site in eastern Xinjiang were performed. Twenty‐nine samples were successfully assigned to specific mtDNA haplogroups, including the west Eurasian maternal lineages of U and W and the east Eurasian maternal lineages of A, C, D, F, G, Z, M7, and M10. In the male samples, two Y chromosome haplogroups, C* and N1 (xN1a, N1c), were successfully assigned. Our mitochondrial and Y‐chromosomal DNA analyses combined with the archaeological studies revealed that the Di‐qiang populations from the Hexi Corridor had migrated to eastern Xinjiang and admixed with the Eurasian steppe populations in the early Bronze Age. Am J Phys Anthropol 157:71–80, 2015. © 2014 Wiley Periodicals, Inc.

1)Di-qiang people are a Sino-tibetan tribe. They are the closest genetic kin of the Han chinese

2)they migrated to today's Xinjiang via Gansu from eastern Qinghai


to put it in simple terms:

The more Westerly you go, the more Indo-european admixture genes u will find in a turk(Turks are not Caucasoid ), such as those in today's Turkey, who are bastardized Turks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oghuz_Turks in terms of Turkic racial purity:

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1. (of a version of something) lower in quality or value than the original form, typically as a result of the addition of new elements.
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because Anatolian Turks have significant amounts of Caucasoid/Semitic admixture in them.

The more Easter-ly u stay(because the East is the original homeland of the Turks), the more East asian/Siberian genes you will find in the typical Turk

= Uyghurs have more Eastern DNA than any other Turks West of Xinjiang today


average anatolian turk:

average uyghur men:

1 notable difference is the belly dance that is prominent in anatolian turkish culture, but is next-to-non-existant in uyghur culture- because it's an import that anatolian turks adopted from the Arabs






Turkish(anatolian) vs Uyghur culture:

language: similar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_languages#Vocabulary_comparison

culture: different https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belly_dance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Turkey#Arabesque

genetics:

Anatolian turks = diluted with cacausoid/semitic genes (as shown above)
Ughur = original turkic siberian stock + east asian genes (as shown above)

 

[Kyle Sun]

then it is time for them to seperate and become independent vs subjugating to attrocities with mindset like yours. Just another communist party troll. if you had no issues killing your own by the millions by the gang of four and so called great leap into the darkness or Tiannemien square massacre; then what hope there is for others as well.

They can try and they had tried.

 

[Hamza913]

no they are not- Research on their genetics as proven it:

Genetics won't change culture.

 

[denel]

Genocide has many forms and even mods of explained this do you but you seem to not remeber anything. This is cultural and religious genocide


CCTV is a mouth piece of the chinese government. It's not neutral and is extremely biased. So don't post propaganda to support your other propaganda. The reality is that even middle school children here are discussing the genocide and concentratioc camps in Xinjiang.

Absolutely this forum has become a mouthpiece for CCTV and commie party trolls who are putting various propaganda... no different than nazis posting footage on how genocide is good. REality is muslims in Xinjiang no matter age, gender are all being incarcerated and noone is doing any thing about it.
At last on the matter of Burmese brutality, the foreign minister of Gambia has taken them to the Hague. Entire OIC kept quiet on this matter just like they did in Darfur, and Yemen to say the least.

Iqbal says it well, moslems are a shadow of themselves completely oblivious to the present and yet holding to a chalice of melonchaly. Ending line of Shikwa.... Ki Mohammad se Wafas to hum tere hain, ye jahan cheez hai kiya loo ho kalam there hain. These communist maniacs can do what they want, will they crush the name of God almightly, no. The echos of Shikwa hold true for the Uighurs at this day in time; it is their love for god and even having a koran in the house is now considered punishment enough. Next we will see forced rapes as some reports are suggesting to force a hybrdisation like in Balkans.

All i say is wake up dear muslim friends, there is genocide taking place for the Uighur moslems.

 

[beijingwalker]

Absolutely this forum has become a mouthpiece for CCTV and commie party trolls who are putting various propaganda... no different than nazis posting footage on how genocide is good. REality is muslims in Xinjiang no matter age, gender are all being incarcerated and noone is doing any thing about it.
At last on the matter of Burmese brutality, the foreign minister of Gambia has taken them to the Hague. Entire OIC kept quiet on this matter just like they did in Darfur, and Yemen to say the least.

Iqbal says it well, moslems are a shadow of themselves completely oblivious to the present and yet holding to a chalice of melonchaly. Ending line of Shikwa.... Ki Mohammad se Wafas to hum tere hain, ye jahan cheez hai kiya loo ho kalam there hain. These communist maniacs can do what they want, will they crush the name of God almightly, no. The echos of Shikwa hold true for the Uighurs at this day in time; it is their love for god and even having a koran in the house is now considered punishment enough. Next we will see forced rapes as some reports are suggesting to force a hybrdisation like in Balkans.

All i say is wake up dear muslim friends, there is genocide taking place for the Uighur moslems.

Before you ask others to do something, buy a ticket and fly to Xinjiang and try to do something yourself, what do you like to do in Xinjaing? Bombing more markets, railway stations or buses to kill more innocent Uighurs of all ages?

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Exactly! This is Uighur culture that is being well preserved and protected.

This is not Uighur culture, which only started to filter in in recent decades from the middle east.

Why would you or anyone else for that matter decide on what culture should Uighurs follow? Besides the second picture doesn't depict middle eastern culture.

 

[beijingwalker]

Why would you or anyone else for that matter decide on what culture should Uighurs follow? Besides the second picture doesn't depict middle eastern culture.

Actually we don't, young generation now all choose modern cultures and China doesn't really like it, but there is just nothing we can do, it's just a trend. Uighurs have their cultures, first Buddhism and later Islam, cultures are never stagnant, now younger generations choose modern clothing by themselves, no one force them to dress them, don't you see Kazakhstan's president always wears suit and tie?

Besides the second picture doesn't depict middle eastern culture.

Or maybe from some other parts, but it's not Uighur original culture, it's something just started to filter in in recently decades.

The closest country both geographically and ethnically to Xinjiang is Kazakhstan, they wear even more modern clothing than people in Xinjiang, why you guys don't call Kazakhstan doing cultural genocide?

Kazakhstan plans to ban headscarves, burqa worn by Muslim women
https://www.dailysabah.com/asia/201...to-ban-headscarves-burqa-worn-by-muslim-women

China doesn't have a law to ban Muslim wears, Many countries do, Kazakhstan even bans headscarves, why no one calling this a cultural genocide? Whatever China does will be automatically become a " genocide".

Hijab Vs. Education: Kazakh Schoolgirls Face Dilemma Over Head-Scarf Ban
https://www.rferl.org/a/kazakhstan-schools-head-scarf-ban/28862676.html

Most of Xinjiang borders Kazakhstan