Fighting Terrorism in Xinjiang

[beijingwalker]

Speaking of cultural genocide, central Asian countries and Mongolia indeed lost their cultural identity, in central Asian regions and Mongolia they all adopted Russian language and Cyrillic alphabet, they also all adopted Russian style names, Xinjiang may be the only region where Turkic peoples still have their original authentic written languages and names thanks to China's protection policies to minority cultures.

 

[fisher1]

A CGTN production. Lol

It's as if Indian media will produce a documentary saying how India is oppressing Kashmiris. Never.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Enough is enough. China has tons of ridiculous policies favoring those fking Uighurs. And the outcome is a load of brainwashed Uighur terrorists. Such stupid move should have been terminated years ago. I have fed up with those XJ BS. If those fking Uighur terrorists don't like carrot, feed them bullets.

Should use the same approach for HK and Taiwan as well.

no they are not- Research on their genetics as proven it:

https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/34/10/2572/3864506

The Uyghur people residing in Xinjiang, a territory located in the far west of China and crossed by the Silk Road, are a key ethnic group for understanding the history of human dispersion in Eurasia. Here we assessed the genetic structure and ancestry of 951 Xinjiang’s Uyghurs (XJU) representing 14 geographical subpopulations. We observed a southwest and northeast differentiation within XJU, which was likely shaped jointly by the Tianshan Mountains, which traverses from east to west as a natural barrier, and gene flow from both east and west directions. In XJU, we identified four major ancestral components that were potentially derived from two earlier admixed groups: one from the West, harboring European (25–37%) and South Asian ancestries (12–20%), and the other from the East, with Siberian (15–17%) and East Asian (29–47%) ancestries. By using a newly developed method, MultiWaver, the complex admixture history of XJU was modeled as a two-wave admixture. An ancient wave was dated back to ∼3,750 years ago (ya), which is much earlier than that estimated by previous studies, but fits within the range of dating of mummies that exhibited European features that were discovered in the Tarim basin, which is situated in southern Xinjiang (4,000–2,000 ya); a more recent wave occurred around 750 ya, which is in agreement with the estimate from a recent study using other methods. We unveiled a more complex scenario of ancestral origins and admixture history in XJU than previously reported, which further suggests Bronze Age massive migrations in Eurasia and East-West contacts across the Silk Road.



Ancient DNA reveals a migration of the ancient Di‐qiang populations into Xinjiang as early as the early Bronze Age

Xinjiang is at the crossroads between East and West Eurasia, and it harbors a relatively complex genetic history. In order to better understand the population movements and interactions in this region, mitochondrial and Y chromosome analyses on 40 ancient human remains from the Tianshanbeilu site in eastern Xinjiang were performed. Twenty‐nine samples were successfully assigned to specific mtDNA haplogroups, including the west Eurasian maternal lineages of U and W and the east Eurasian maternal lineages of A, C, D, F, G, Z, M7, and M10. In the male samples, two Y chromosome haplogroups, C* and N1 (xN1a, N1c), were successfully assigned. Our mitochondrial and Y‐chromosomal DNA analyses combined with the archaeological studies revealed that the Di‐qiang populations from the Hexi Corridor had migrated to eastern Xinjiang and admixed with the Eurasian steppe populations in the early Bronze Age. Am J Phys Anthropol 157:71–80, 2015. © 2014 Wiley Periodicals, Inc.

1)Di-qiang people are a Sino-tibetan tribe. They are the closest genetic kin of the Han chinese

2)they migrated to today's Xinjiang via Gansu from eastern Qinghai


to put it in simple terms:

The more Westerly you go, the more Indo-european admixture genes u will find in a turk(Turks are not Caucasoid ), such as those in today's Turkey, who are bastardized Turks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oghuz_Turks in terms of Turkic racial purity:

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because Anatolian Turks have significant amounts of Caucasoid/Semitic admixture in them.

The more Easter-ly u stay(because the East is the original homeland of the Turks), the more East asian/Siberian genes you will find in the typical Turk

= Uyghurs have more Eastern DNA than any other Turks West of Xinjiang today


average anatolian turk:

average uyghur men:

1 notable difference is the belly dance that is prominent in anatolian turkish culture, but is next-to-non-existant in uyghur culture- because it's an import that anatolian turks adopted from the Arabs






Turkish(anatolian) vs Uyghur culture:

language: similar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_languages#Vocabulary_comparison

culture: different https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belly_dance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Turkey#Arabesque

genetics:

Anatolian turks = diluted with cacausoid/semitic genes (as shown above)
Ughur = original turkic siberian stock + east asian genes (as shown above)

A lot of Uyghurs were also descended from the Turkified Chinese immigrants from the Han Dynasty and Tang Dynasty.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Same approach for HK and Taiwan.



A lot of Uyghurs were also descended from the Turkified Chinese immigrants from the Han Dynasty and Tang Dynasty.

they added on to the genepool established by the the Di-qiang populations that went before them.

Thus, Gansu is the major migration route East asians took to enter Xinjiang


1)Di-Qiang tribes went first, possibly by as much as a millenia before the Han dynasty, because the ZHou dynasty was established partly by Qiang people. Jiang taigong himself was a Qiang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiang_Ziya

2)then went the Han dyansty

3)then went the Tang dynasty

4)then went the modern mgiration wave by the Han chinese today

Thus, with thousands of years of East asian people populating Xinjiang, it's of no wonder that Uyghurs have significant East asian dna in them today.

Original Homeland of uyghurs, which is in today's western Mongolia:

Anatolian bastardized Turks aka 'pseudo-Caucasoid turks'(from Crusaders, Greeks, Persians, Hungarians, etc, etc):

Uyghur turk(though, his dark blonde hair hints of his Tocharian lineage)

Uyghur people's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicanthic_fold is the prime testimonial of their East asian heritage

Oldest Turkic relic in the world, and it's not in Xinjiang:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orkhon_inscriptions

The Orkhon inscriptions also known as Orhon Inscriptions, Orhun Inscriptions, Khöshöö Tsaidam monuments (also spelled Khoshoo Tsaidam, Koshu-Tsaidam or Höshöö caidam), or Kul Tigin steles (simplified Chinese: 阙特勤碑; traditional Chinese: 闕特勤碑), are two memorial installations erected by the Göktürks written in Old Turkic alphabet in the early 8th century in the Orkhon Valley in Mongolia. They were erected in honor of two Turkic princes, Kul Tigin and his brother Bilge Khagan.[1]

The inscriptions, in both Chinese and Old Turkic, relate the legendary origins of the Turks, the golden age of their history, their subjugation by the Chinese, and their liberation by Ilterish Qaghan.[2] In fact, according to one source, the inscriptions contain "rhythmic and parallelistic passages" that resemble that of epics.[3]

 

[beijingwalker]

they added on to the genepool established by the the Di-qiang populations that went before them.

Thus, Gansu is the major migration route East asians took to enter Xinjiang


1)Di-Qiang tribes went first, possibly by as much as a millenia before the Han dynasty, because the ZHou dynasty was established partly by Qiang people. Jiang taigong himself was a Qiang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiang_Ziya

2)then went the Han dyansty

3)then went the Tang dynasty

4)then went the modern mgiration wave by the Han chinese today

Thus, with thousands of years of East asian people populating Xinjiang, it's of no wonder that Uyghurs have significant East asian dna in them today.

Original Homeland of uyghurs, which is in today's western Mongolia:

Anatolian bastardized Turks aka 'pseudo-Caucasoid turks'(from Crusaders, Greeks, Persians, Hungarians, etc, etc):

Uyghur turk(though, his dark blonde hair hints of his Tocharian lineage)

Uyghur people's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicanthic_fold is the prime testimonial of their East asian heritage

Oldest Turkic relic in the world, and it's not in Xinjiang:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orkhon_inscriptions

The Orkhon inscriptions also known as Orhon Inscriptions, Orhun Inscriptions, Khöshöö Tsaidam monuments (also spelled Khoshoo Tsaidam, Koshu-Tsaidam or Höshöö caidam), or Kul Tigin steles (simplified Chinese: 阙特勤碑; traditional Chinese: 闕特勤碑), are two memorial installations erected by the Göktürks written in Old Turkic alphabet in the early 8th century in the Orkhon Valley in Mongolia. They were erected in honor of two Turkic princes, Kul Tigin and his brother Bilge Khagan.[1]

The inscriptions, in both Chinese and Old Turkic, relate the legendary origins of the Turks, the golden age of their history, their subjugation by the Chinese, and their liberation by Ilterish Qaghan.[2] In fact, according to one source, the inscriptions contain "rhythmic and parallelistic passages" that resemble that of epics.[3]

Xinjiang is patchwork of different phenotypes

 

[Dubious]

such threads are everywhere.

Thanks to our Chinese members here who think they are above the rules! I have told them repeatedly to stop spreading topics everywhere...

Explain to them, they are too obnoxious to understand or care!
Warn them, they cry foul play..


Just scroll down and you will see SIMILAR topics opened just to make themselves feel important!

 

[HannibalBarca]

Thanks to our Chinese members here who think they are above the rules! I have told them repeatedly to stop spreading topics everywhere...

Explain to them, they are too obnoxious to understand or care!
Warn them, they cry foul play..


Just scroll down and you will see SIMILAR topics opened just to make themselves feel important!

Answering them is earning us Warnings for "Feeding a Troll" to the point those threads are 99% filled with their own "posts"...

 

[Dubious]

Answering them is earning us Warnings for "Feeding a Troll" to the point those threads are 99% filled with their own "posts"...

@waz can you please look into this!

We cant favour 1 people and punish EVERYONE else!

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

Xinjiang is patchwork of different phenotypes

no they arent. the people in your photo are the 'New Uyghurs' after they have arrived in Xinjiang and intermingled with the original inhabitants, the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocharians and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saka , who were an Indo-Iranian people aka 'Aryans'. Their closest kin are other Indo-iranian people, such as the North Indians in Himachal pradesh and Pakistan's Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (e.g https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtuns ) , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajiks and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persians .
History listed their language as extinct, but the fact is their people didn't disappear, for they formed a new race with the late-arriving old uyghurs, though some of them simply migrated southwest to Pakistan whey they became known as the Hunas.

Hence, the people in your photo have a 'hybrid' look with blue eyes, yet dark straight hair or an Asiatic face, yet with blonde hair- such as that kid on the far bottom left.

The original, un-bastardized, pure Turkic Uyghurs arrived from western Mongolia, near the Altai moutains. They would have looked like other eastern-Turkic people such as the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salar_people , who are the 'true Turks', unbastardized https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oghuz_Turks and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyot people living today in Russia's deep interior amongst its vast https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiga steppes.

They are the undiluted phenotype of pure turkic people, in contrary to the bastardized versions living in today's Anatolia.

The Salar people (Chinese: 撒拉族; pinyin: Sālāzú; Salar: Salır) are a Turkic ethnic minority of China who largely speak the Salar language, an Oghuz language.

true Oghuz turks:

They look East Asian, yet to the accustomed Chinese eyes, they look distinct.

Now compare the top to this, 'Oghuz Turks'

see the huge difference? Celtic farmers, Hellenistic phalanx soldiers, Roman legionaries, Persians, Arab mujahideens, European crusaders admixture all thrown in to the cooking pot like spices used to add flavor to the stew


If you're a history buff like me, you will come to know that the Old Uyghurs were called '回纥", which in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Chinese , would be pronounced as 'wee-hok' , a close phonological translation of 'uyghurs' today.

The Western Regions or Xiyu (Hsi-yu; Chinese: 西域; pinyin: Xīyù; Wade–Giles: Hsi1-yü4) was a historical name specified in the Chinese chronicles between the 3rd century BC to the 8th century AD[1] that referred to the regions west of Yumen Pass, most often Central Asia or sometimes more specifically the easternmost portion of it (e.g. Altishahr or the Tarim Basin in southern Xinjiang), though it was sometimes used more generally to refer to other regions to the west of China as well, such as the Indian subcontinent (as in the novel Journey to the West).

Because of its strategic location astride the Silk Road, the Western Regions have been historically significant since at least the 3rd century BC. It was the site of the Han–Xiongnu War until 89 AD. In the 7th century, the Tang campaign against the Western Regions led to Chinese control of the region until the An Lushan Rebellion.


Tang campaign against the oasis states (640–648)
The region became significant in later centuries as a cultural conduit between East Asia, the Indian subcontinent, the Muslim world and Europe, such as during the period of the Mongol Empire. One of the most significant exports of the Western Regions was Buddhist texts, particularly the Mahayana sutras, which were carried by traders and pilgrim monks to China. The Tang dynasty monk Xuanzang crossed the region on his way to study in India, resulting in the influential Great Tang Records on the Western Regions upon his return to the Tang capital of Chang'an.

Before the onset of Turkic migrations, the peoples of the region were Indo-Europeans divided into roughly two linguistic groups, the Saka and the Tocharians. The peoples of oasis city-states of Khotan and Kashgar spoke Saka, one of the Eastern Iranian languages, whereas the people of Kucha, Turfan and Loulan spoke the Tocharian languages.[2][3]

the people in this video would have been how the Old Uyghurs(before the onset of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_migration ) loooked like: