FGFA: Sukhoi says work to continue; no need for JV agreement

[Marxist]

Vinay Shukla Moscow, Jun 12 (PTI) Russia has said it has no immediate plans to sign a joint venture agreement with India''s Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) as the work on the fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA), jointly being developed by the two countries, could continue without it. "We don''t plan to sign a joint venture.

We have agreed on joint work with our Indian colleagues," CEO of Sukhoi Aircraft Mikhail Pogasyan was quoted as saying by RIA Novosti. India and Russia had agreed to jointly develop FGFA back in October 2007 and a JV agreement was expected to be inked between HAL and Sukhoi during Prime Minister Vladimir Putin''s India visit in March, which could not be signed due to red tape.

He said the joint work could be carried out under the current agreement. HAL is said to be looking for 25 per cent stake in the JV, which will produce a lighter, twin-seater version of the futuristic fighter capable of taking on the US F-22 and F-35 fighters.

"We will do our part of the work, our Indian counterparts theirs. At the initial stage it is not necessary to have a joint venture," Pogasyan said.

Russia has been developing its fifth-generation fighter since the 1990s. The current prototype, known as the T-50, designed by the Sukhoi design bureau and built at its plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur is undergoing a series of trials.

Russian officials have already hailed the fighter as "a unique warplane" that combines the capabilities of an air superiority fighter and attack aircraft. On the eve of his India visit Putin had said the FGFA would have to undergo at least 2000 test flights before entering into a stage of serial production.

FGFA: Sukhoi says work to continue; no need for JV agreement - Yahoo! India News

 

[IndianArmy]

exactly, why need an agreement between friendship????? Let the work continue First and Foremost, Agreement at the later stage.

 

[i am your fear]

well now there is no need to any agreement

Russia - India are true friends

 

[Marxist]

exactly, why need an agreement between friendship????? Let the work continue First and Foremost, Agreement at the later stage.

its pure business,there no friendship in our defense deals,lets not forget Groshkov deal.

 

[farhan_9909]

Means PAk fa/FGFA is nt JV bt 100% russian indegenous

 

[Kinetic]

Means PAk fa/FGFA is nt JV bt 100% russian indegenous

What make you think that if they don't sign a JV makes FGFA 100% Russian? Didn't you see earlier news reports? India will still have 25% of the technologies and 50% of the development costs, so Russia can't do anything alone.

 

[saurabh]

Vinay Shukla Moscow, Jun 12 (PTI)

"We have agreed on joint work with our Indian colleagues," CEO of Sukhoi Aircraft Mikhail Pogasyan was quoted as saying by RIA Novosti. India and Russia had agreed to jointly develop FGFA back in October 2007 and a JV agreement was expected to be inked between HAL and Sukhoi during Prime Minister Vladimir Putin''s India visit in March, which could not be signed due to red tape.

He said the joint work could be carried out under the current agreement. HAL is said to be looking for 25 per cent stake in the JV, which will produce a lighter, twin-seater version of the futuristic fighter capable of taking on the US F-22 and F-35 fighters.

"We will do our part of the work, our Indian counterparts theirs. At the initial stage it is not necessary to have a joint venture," Pogasyan said.

Means PAk fa/FGFA is nt JV bt 100% russian indegenous

Hope that answers..

 

[brahmastra]

yes,I think PAK-FA is 100% russian.
India will come to picture when the work on FGFA will start.

 

[farhan_9909]

What make you think that if they don't sign a JV makes FGFA 100% Russian? Didn't you see earlier news reports? India will still have 25% of the technologies and 50% of the development costs, so Russia can't do anything alone.

the deal is nt signed as per the news..
i was thinking the same why would they allow you in the program when they did everything on ther selves.india contribute nothing to the PAK fa and FGFA is same as PAK fa bt a little differene like twin seater and avionics

 

[Marxist]

Russian aircraft holding Sukhoi has no plans to sign additional agreements creating a joint venture with its Indian partners in the production of a fifth-generation fighter, the general director said on Friday.

Russian Sukhoi holding and Indian Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) agreed in early 2010 to jointly develop a fifth-generation stealth fighter jet.

Sukhoi head Mikhail Pogosyan had said that an additional agreement would be signed specifying the Indian role in the project, but on Friday he said that the Russian company hoped work would begin soon without any such deal.

"We don't plan to sign a joint venture. We have agreed on joint work with our Indian colleagues," Pogosyan said.

He said the joint work could be carried out under the current agreement.

"We will do our part of the work, our Indian counterparts theirs," Pogosyan said. "At the initial stage it is not necessary to have a joint venture."

Earlier, HAL was reported to be seeking a 25% share in design and development in the project.

Russia has been developing its fifth-generation fighter since the 1990s. The current prototype, known as the T-50, was designed by the Sukhoi design bureau and built at a plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, in Russia's Far East.

Russian officials have already hailed the fighter as "a unique warplane" that combines the capabilities of an air superiority fighter and attack aircraft.

Russian-Indian work on 5G fighter to go ahead without extra deal | Defense | RIA Novosti

 

[keyboard]

"We will do our part of the work, our Indian counterparts theirs. At the initial stage it is not necessary to have a joint venture," Pogasyan said.

Thats the best part

 

[farhan_9909]

bt the deal is nt signed yet..

and PAK fa is 100% russian.

i think it is the same case like MKI
you picked up su 30 and modified it as per your requirements

i thought PAK FA IS A JV..

 

[lhuang]

PAK FA is not a JV according to this.

FGFA remains a JV?

 

[keyboard]

bt the deal is nt signed yet..

and PAK fa is 100% russian.

i think it is the same case like MKI
you picked up su 30 and modified it as per your requirements

i thought PAK FA IS A JV..

It doesnt matter from where it comes

As MKI is best fighter is whole Asia after FGFA came to India it will become no 1

and after 2020 we will make them in India .

 

[saurabh]

the deal is nt signed as per the news..
i was thinking the same why would they allow you in the program when they did everything on ther selves.india contribute nothing to the PAK fa and FGFA is same as PAK fa bt a little differene like twin seater and avionics

Wiki extract:

Difference between PAK FA and FGFA

The difference between PAK FA and the FGFA will be similar to that between Su-30MK and Su-30MKI[citation needed]. Su-30MK is the commercial version of the Russian Su-30M, whereas the Su-30MKI (MKI stands for "Modernizirovannyi Kommercheskiy Indiski" meaning "Modernized Commercial India") was jointly-developed with India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited for the Indian Air Force. The Su-30MKI includes Thrust Vectoring Control (TVC) and canards. It is equipped with a multi-national avionics complex sourced from India, Israel, Russia and France[19]. The PAK FA and the FGFA will have minimal common technology. Further the FGFA will be predominantly using weapons of Indian origin such as Astra, a Beyond Visual Range missile being developed by India, although in keeping with the Russian BVR doctrine of using a vast variety of different missiles for versatility and unpredictability to countermeasures, it can be expected to have compatibility with many different missile loadouts. The Indian FGFA is significantly different from the Russian PAK FA because a second pilot means the addition of another dimension, development of wings and control surfaces.

The FGFA may also include systems developed by third parties.

"According to HAL chairman A.K. Baweja on 16 September 2008, HAL will be contributing largely to composites, cockpits and avionics. HAL is working to enter into a joint development mechanism with Russia for the evolution of the FGFA engine as an upward derivative of the AL-37."