Female Suicide bomber in Turbat, Balochistan

[Mirzali Khan]

Politicians and an average civillian are two different things.

The former serves a purpose (to tackle a political party, the only purpose the second serves is to disrupt a terror network, which you cannot target  random people for that to work.

There's no distinction between the two according to the army.

This is the reason why the thread has been turned into a dumpster fire because people have simply lost trust.

 

[TheSolution]

There's no distinction between the two according to the army.

This is the reason why the thread has been turned into a dumpster fire because people have simply lost trust.

The fact is, whether you disagree with their actions or not, there is always a motive. You have to be part of a very specific cohort for them to target you, it's simply impossible for you to be entirely innocent.

PTI was one reason, rebel groups is the other reason. Whereas everyone seems to think they are shooting up complete random citizens who did absolutely nothing, which is just foolish and illogical.

At that point the only explanation would be to claim there is a complete genocide going on, and you'd have to point to actual systematic camps and what not. Which is again foolish, considering the Baloch population in Sindh and Punjab making a significant proportion. You don't do that with a group you supposedly want to genocide.

 

[kingQamaR]

Are you slow in the head?????

Whatever issue we have with military involvement in politics does not justify the terrorists, suicide bombings, extremism, targeting population and economy from these animals.


These are the enemies of Pakistan, they are separatists and terrorists and will kill us if they get the chance




Whatever issue we have as Pakistani we need to ensure that the military does its job and its job is to kill our enemies and make their lives unbearable


So now we accept that afghanis are our enemy and not just upset brothers who we can reason or talk with,, we need to bring the HAMMER DOWN HARD


You don't treat a enemy with mercy,, torture, slaughter, brutality and cruelty should be our basic policy,, our enemy will do terrorism which they are ALREADY doing so we need to make their crimes painful, very painful for them and their people



Iran is bringing the hammer down on the Iranian side and we need to support them and help them and kill, destroy and humilate this MUTUAL ENEMY



They are terrorists, they will hit us if we are kind or harsh

So let's be BRUTAL

Let's get those torture camps going,
Let's make that border deadly
Let's make our visa policy harsh and punitive
Let's make it costly for afghans and other enemies
Let the security force treat our enemies LIKE ENEMIES
TARGET THE FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES

We can make it worse for them



Any other country would have DESTROYED them decades ago,, we have acted like pusseys and go e very very easy because we thought we were all Muslims on the same side


That was a mistake



When you see afghans and these BLA types REPEAT, THEY ARE OUR ENEMIES AND WISH TO KILL US, SO WE HAVE TO KILL THEM FIRST

Nope. Science proves you wrong. Torture and harsh sentencing has no significant statistical impact on deterring criminal behaviour in the long term. What does work however, is reduction of wealth inequality and alleviation of poverty thru access to mental heath treatment and employment opportunities to these Pakistanis gone rogue. That’s what actually deters future criminals.

Your vengeance boner is clouding your ability to think critically and accept facts before feelings.

 

[PanzerKiel]

Why are they actually using women though? I see the strategic value because women are less likely to be suspected and people drop their guard but still it's a major progression.

Are they struggling with recruitment? Can you shed light on this? @PanzerKiel

Not the recruitment. A society where great emphasis is placed on veils and burqas, its more easy to plug in a women with a suicide vest, because no one will check you out.

I doubt we can have lady suicide bomber reach a western beach with bikinis all around. Thats the point.

 

[ziaulislam]

Bullshit

People in gaza are not desperate??? What nonsense you keep on posting on this website

Suicide attacks happen not because of desperation but because of this:

1. Ideology
2. Funds
3. Organization

You minus anyone of these three and there won't be a suicide attack

You don't see suicide attacks in IoK or Palestine because both India and Israel have successfully eliminated at least one of the above three factors

I have met people from Syria Palestine and balochistan

People don't dispear in Palestine..they do dispear in balochistan

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Not the recruitment. A society where great emphasis is placed on veils and burqas, its more easy to plug in a women with a suicide vest, because no one will check you out.

I doubt we can have lady suicide bomber reach a western beach with bikinis all around. Thats the point.

Panzer Sahib, I still think it was barbaric for the woman to blow herself up.

Now she will have to answer to Allah.

 

[ziaulislam]

Pakistan can stick their head into sand like in 1971

It doesn't change the reality that people are kidnapped and killed, buried in unmarked graves in balochistan but not in Kashmir or Palestine

Facts are facts
And they are looking at us

Stick your head in sand..and keep doing it

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

Pakistan can stick their head into sand like in 1971

It doesn't change the reality that people are kidnapped and killed, buried in unmarked graves in balochistan but not in Kashmir or Palestine

Facts are facts
And they are looking at us

And Balochistan stands as the poorest province in Pakistan, whereas Kashmir ranks among the most prosperous regions in India.

 

[ziaulislam]

And Balochistan stands as the poorest province in Pakistan, whereas Kashmir ranks among the most prosperous regions in India.

No it doesn't

Kashmir has been decimated by indians army tactics of destroying properties

Not sure if it learned that from Pakistan army or isreali army or whether we learned it from them

Sure jammu is mostly prosperous

 

[Areesh]

Iran, India and others are only exploiting our existing fault lines in Balochistan for their own benefit. It is primarily our responsibility to address these issues. This thread is a clear example of what's wrong with us. People are not even willing to recognize the legitimate grievances in the region. We need to address these grievances before we can fully confront terrorists and their local and foreign handlers.

Obviously legitimate grievances should be addressed. Not just of Baloch but everyone

But this is a textbook argument that this girl blew herself because of some grievances

Have you guy even bothered to read and analyze BLA terrorists and what they say or believe in?

BLA guys openly say they are not fighting Pakistani state because of any grievances. They are fighting to break Pakistan and to form their own racist republic as per marxist principles

BLA militants openly say there won't be any missing persons in Balochistan if they stop the war that they started against Pakistani state. Yup they proudly say that it is they who have started this war and it isn't imposed on them

Here is a article by pro BLA activist in a pro BLA/BLF news website to further explain my point

https://twitter.com/x/status/1672975676457070594

The reason this thread has gone to gutter is because on one hand we have military fanboys who can't accept the fact that there are many loopholes in Pakistan's counterinsurgency policies and the current counterinsurgency policy simply reeks off incompetence and laziness and on other hand we have PTI fanboys who have been brainwashed into simpleton arguments like "Oh she exploded herself because of some gradiences" after removal of Imran Khan as PM

The reason this insurgency is alive because the best our security institutions come up with to quell this insurgency is a check post in a middle of nowhere with no security in case of an ambush

 

[Hero786]

Oppression breeds rebellion
Oppression breeds violence

Nothing can justify terror attacks but we need to address genuine Baloch grievances

then what will you offer TTP?

they said suicide attacks are due to drone attacks,
after 2015 no drone attacks.

but they still targeting civilians and forces.

will you offer shariah in Pakistan?
they want Wahabbis Shriah, i mean they want Wahhabis in their so called govt.
they considers all kafirs except Wahhabis.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Obviously legitimate grievances should be addressed. Not just of Baloch but everyone

But this is a textbook argument that this girl blew herself because of some grievances

Have you guy even bothered to read and analyze BLA terrorists and what they say or believe in?

BLA guys openly say they are not fighting Pakistani state because of any grievances. They are fighting to break Pakistan and to form their own racist republic as per marxist principles

BLA militants openly say there won't be any missing persons in Balochistan if they stop the war that they started against Pakistani state. Yup they proudly say that it is they who have started this war and it isn't imposed on them

https://twitter.com/x/status/1672975676457070594

The reason this thread has gone to gutter is because on one hand we have military fanboys who can't accept the fact that there are many loopholes in Pakistan's counterinsurgency policies and they reek off incompetence and laziness

The reason this insurgency is alive because the best our security institutions come up with to quell this insurgency is a check post in a middle of nowhere with no security in case of an ambush

Pakistani Muslims should be loyal to Pakistan.
There is no excuse for this.

 

[Areesh]

I have met people from Syria Palestine and balochistan

People don't dispear in Palestine..they do dispear in balochistan

@M. Sarmad

These are the kind of people that genuine PTI supporters like you need to be careful of

People like @ziaulislam or @Mirzali Khan are not PTI supporters. These are the guys with their own anti state agenda. In frustration because of what has happened in last one year many PTI supporters now agree with these guys and their flawed and dangerous analysis and ideas

It is a disgrace to even say that Palestinians in Gaza are not desperate enough to commit suicide attack

It doesn't change the reality that people are kidnapped and killed, buried in unmarked graves in balochistan but not in Kashmir or Palestine

Analysis check karo is lundai k expert ka

There are no unmarked graves or enforced disappearances in IOK and Palestine

This forum has gone down the drain because of such people and their "expert analysis"

 

[ziaulislam]

@M. Sarmad

These are the kind of people that genuine PTI supporters like you need to be careful of

People like @ziaulislam or @Mirzali Khan are not PTI supporters. These are the guys with their own anti state agenda. In frustration because of what has happened in last one year many PTI supporters now agree with these guys and their flawed and dangerous analysis and ideas

It is a disgrace to even say that Palestinians in Gaza are not desperate enough to commit suicide attack

Problem with pakistanis is that they have never met a Palestinian but think they know what's going on.

Palestinians like pakistanis are losing their homes and land but they aren't being picked up and dispeared like what's happening in Pakistan

Families young women are sitting in streets demanding where there father and brothers are.


These are facts and you can loop around it but facts are facts

Palestinians can go to isreali supreme court and find where there relatives are kept at ..a balochi can't..he will be told "ap sabar karein"

 

[Areesh]

Problem with pakistanis is that they have never met a Palestinian but think they know what's going on.

Palestinians like pakistanis are losing their homes and land but they aren't being picked up and dispeared like what's happening in Pakistan

Families young women are sitting in streets demanding where there father and brothers are.


These are facts and you can loop around it but facts are facts

Shut up idiot

And have some shame for downplaying what has happened and is happening in Palestine