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Fears for Afghan Converts after India Denies Refuge

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I think it is because, their life may not be safe in India too if these converts anonymity is lost, Chances of Apostates getting Killed cannot be ruled out. Taslima Nasreen had to Fled India. same with Rushdie too. India too have 17 crores or more Muslims.
 
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There is no concept of picture etc here.

If some one renounces Islam, is to say after knowing the truth you walk away from it.

That person is sentenced to death.

No two ways about it.

SO U R SAYING, IF A PERSON CONVERTS FROM ISLAM TO SOME OTHER RELIGION HE SHOULD BE KILLED.

LAST TIME I HEARD, WAS RELIGION WAS LESSER THEN HUMANITY. EVEN GOD ACCEPTS PRAYERS OF ONLY THOSE WHO R JUST AND ARE HUMANE.

RELIGION IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE US A BETTER HUMAN BEING. IT SHOULD NOT MAKE US A TYRANT AND KILLER OF INNOCENTS AND OPPRESSED PEOPLE.
 
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There is no concept of picture etc here.

If some one renounces Islam, is to say after knowing the truth you walk away from it.

That person is sentenced to death.

No two ways about it.

BULL SHI.T there is NO Such thing in Islam. You are ignorant to your core. please dont spread such lies about Islam.

Islam is very clear about if anyone wants to leave its folds he/she is free . after that he/she are no longer to be entitled as Muslims and also to any right or punishment according to Islamic laws.

They are called murtid and thats it.

there is NO single punishment in Quran for those who leaves Islam.
 
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Pagans??? What does that mean?? does it mean Kaffir?? and Where in our Constitution have we mentioned ourselves to be a Religious Country to be called us like that???

Why are you acting as if someone insulted you ?

Kafir is just some one who believes in multiple Gods or idol worship. That is all.

However I guess secular india didn't live up to it's name ...
 
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hundreds of converts Christians were killed in Orissa India by Hindus so tell me is Hinduism is that unforgiving ?


On the other hand Islam does not have ANY such decree about converts. NO punishment nothing.

They are running due to the prevailing culture not Islam

NO RELIGION IS BAD, ITS THE PEOPLE WHO R JANAJI.
 
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I think it is because, their life may not be safe in India too if these converts anonymity is lost, Chances of Apostates getting Killed cannot be ruled out. Taslima Nasreen had to Fled India. same with Rushdie too. India too have 17 crores or more Muslims.

India failed to protect its own Christian converts from atrocities of extremist Hindus so its a bad decision by these people to seek shelter in India.


I say they should contact Vatican and seek refuge in US or EU
 
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Vatican won't give a hoot about "Christians"(new age cults,protestents). They consider only Catholic Rites and Orthodox as Believers. :D
 
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Vatican won't give a hoot about "Christians"(new age cults,protestents). They consider only Catholic Rites and Orthodox as Believers. :D

hmmmmmm so then whats the use to convert to such a faith where they are not welcomed in the first place ?
 
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oh come on .................you cannot force anyone to praise his lord by your style at a gun point.

Nopes

That is incorrect thinking.

When some one joins Islam, he is well aware of the rules.

We are not asking any one else to covert to Islam on gun point.

All what we are doing is, making sure the Islamic law remains active on MUSLIMS.
 
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Here we reproduce the Qur`anic verses about apostasy that have not been already discussed:

2:17 They ask you about fighting in the sacred month. Say: “Fighting therein is a great (offence); but preventing (people) from following the way of God, denying him, preventing access to the Sacred Masjid, and driving out its people is a greater (offence) and al-fitnah (oppression) is worse than killing (in battle).” And they will not cease fighting you until they turn you back from your religion if they can. And if anyone among you turns back from his religion and dies as a disbeliever, then the works of such as these will be lost in this life and in the hereafter they will be the dwellers of the fire, abiding therein forever.


3:86 How shall God guide those who reject faith after their belief and after they bore witness that the Messenger was true and after clear (signs) had come unto them? God guides not unjust people.

3:87 They are those whose recompense is that on them (rests) the curse of God, of the angels, and of all humankind.

3:88 They will abide therein. Their torment will not be lightened and they will not be given any respite -
3:89 Except for those that repent after that, and make amends (by righteous deeds), for, verily God is forgiving, most merciful.

3:90 But surely those who disbelieved after their belief and then went on increasing in their disbelief, never will their repentance be accepted; for they are those who have gone astray.

4:137 Surely those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe (again) and (again) disbelieve, and go on increasing in disbelief, God will not forgive them nor guide them nor guide them on the way.

9:66 Make no excuses. You have disbelieved after your belief. If We pardon some of you, We (may) punish others amongst you, for they are guilty.

9:74 They swear by God that they did not say, but they did say the word of disbelief and they disbelieved after their islam and meditated a plot which they were unable to carry out. And (by this) they avenged nothing except that God and his Messenger had enriched them of his bounty! If they repent, it will be better for them; but if they turn away, God will punish them with a grievous penalty in this world and in the hereafter. And there is none for them on earth as a protector or helper.

16:106 Whoever disbelieved in God after his belief – not he who is forced to do so while his heart is content with faith but he who opens his breast to disbelief - on such wrath from God, and theirs will be a great torment.

16:107 This is because they loved the life of this world more than the hereafter and God does not guide those who disbelieve.

16:108 They are those upon whose hearts, ears, and eyes God has set a seal, and they are heedless.

16:109 No doubt, in the hereafter they will be losers.

47:25 Surely those who have turned back (to their state of kufr) after the guidance was made manifest to them, Shaytan has enticed them and filled them with false hopes.

47:26 This is because they said to those who hate what God has revealed: "We will obey you in part of the matter”. But God knows their secrets.

47:27 Then how (will it be) when the angels take their souls at death, smiting their faces and their backs?

The Punishment of Apostasy in Islam - Part 1: Qur`anic Perspective
 
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Nopes

That is incorrect thinking.

When some one joins Islam, he is well aware of the rules.

We are not asking any one else to covert to Islam on gun point.

All what we are doing is, making sure the Islamic law remains active on MUSLIMS.
well Miss /Mrs jana contradicts the above statement.
 
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