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Whatever Iran unveils, even if it is the top notch globally, you come up asking Iran to work with Russians or Chinese!! My good Iranian friend, it is not in Iranian hands to decide if she wants to start a TOT or cooperation on submarines or fighter jets... Iran would be interested in souyoz, Space station, ICBMs, PAKFA, nuclear submarines if only Russia agrees to it... apparently, Russia is the last advanced nation willing to help Iran with technology and weaponry...

Iran should go for what China did... she must use its cyber and information capabilities to obrain necessary techs and rely only on itself for more progress... A second-hand technology that soon will be out of usefulness will not serve Iran...

Russia won't help Iran in projects like fighter jets, jet engines, submarines or anything close to these weaponry technologically... so don't tire yourself dude...

Cooperation with Russia is needed, even China cooperates with Russia for advanced weaponry

Cooperation with other much more advanced countries will help Iran to keep up with its rivals.
Saudi Arabia and Israel have more advanced weapons and they continue to buy even more powerful weapons from US and EU

French frigates of KSA and German subs of Israel are a really big threat to the Iranian Navy and if KSA buys US destroyers the balance is going to shift against Iran

Iran should get as much as they can from Russia and China
 
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Congrats to Iranians :tup:

These images make me sad cause my nation terminated advanced sub program we inherited from Yugoslavia in early 2000s , tragic mistake.
I think croatia is more than capable of producing whatever it needs , so why did you terminate that project ?

thats really a sad thing .
Iran Zindabad
Pakistan zindabad !
 
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Cooperation with Russia is needed, even China cooperates with Russia for advanced weaponry

Cooperation with other much more advanced countries will help Iran to keep up with its rivals.
Saudi Arabia and Israel have more advanced weapons and they continue to buy even more powerful weapons from US and EU

French frigates of KSA and German subs of Israel are a really big threat to the Iranian Navy and if KSA buys US destroyers the balance is going to shift against Iran

Iran should get as much as they can from Russia and China
Only the Israeli submarine are a threat to us, the Saudi navy is not hahahahahan mixture torchant the towel and it will easily cast.
 
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Mashallah brother. We now know why America/Israel did not attack Iran like they did Iraq in 2003 and now want to make peace with the great nation of Iran. I have the same love in my heart for Iran like I do for Pakistan.

Old boy,you think a 600ton boat is the reason the U.S/West didnt attack Iran. Lool

There was simply no need to , as the U.S/Britain/NATO were all already involved in a very unpopular war in Afghanistan, then Iraq. Something even our peiple were strongly against. For example this war unpopularity pressured our parluament to reject intervening in Syria last year. Though our airforce is now active in bombing ISIS in Syria and Iraq now. Just shows how any ground invasion is unpopular even today.

So it has nothing to do with Iran finally being able to build a small 590tons submarine, something we did over a century ago. Lool

Anyway, im not denying Irans achievements though. They and Turkey are very advanced for a middle eastern country, since i dont see any middle eastern country who can build even a submarine we built over a century ago. Plus Iran has very good scientists indeed. The best in the region(outside Israel obviously), plus the people in general are quite smart/educated, bar their islamic leaders who's foreign policy has been a disaster to say the least . since, had they played their cards right, then they would/coyld have achives far more than they have without being sanctioned and losing out of years of growth/missed opportunities.

So don't exaggerate things by saying the U.S was scared of Iran.lol China and even Russia cant challenge the U.S navy even today, what chance do you thing Iran stands? So lets be realistic.
 
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Old boy,you think 600ton boat is rhe reason the U.S/West didnt attack Iran. Lool

There was simply no need to , as the U.S/Britain/NATO were all already involved in a very unpopular war in Afghanistan, then Iraq. Something even our peiple were strongly against. For example this war unpopularity pressured oyr parluament to reject intervenibg in Syria last year. Though our airforce is now active in bombing ISIS in Syria and Iraq now. Just shows how any ground invasion is unpopular today.

So it has nothing to do with Iran finally being able to build a small 590tons submarine something we did over a century ago. Lool

Anyway, im not denying Irans achievements though. They and Turkey are very advanced for a middle eastern country, since i dont see any middle eastern country who can build even a submarine we built over a century ago. Plus Iran has very good scientists indeed. The best in the region(outside Israel obviously), plus the people in general are quite smart/educated, bar their islamic leaders who's foreign policy has been a disaster to say the least . since, had they played their cards right, then they would/coyld have achives far more than they have without being sanctioned and losing out of years of growth/missed opportunities.

So don't exaggerate things by saying the U.S was scared of Iran.lol China and even Russia cant challenge the U.S navy even today, what chance do you thing Iran stands? So lets be realistic.



These small subs are much deadlier than larger submarines in the shallow water of the Persian gulf. This is something even the American themselves have admitted.

Also dude, what technology did those submarines you built "a century" ago have? You think this is just about the mass? There is no denying the UK has much longer experience in submarine building, but to automatically think that this submarine is as ancient as those you build long time ago due to similar mass, then this is a logical fallacy.

However, no one said having such submarines is the sole reason US did not attack Iran. The US did not have balls to attack Iran from a multitude of reasons.

In any case, Iran is also building a 1200 ton besat.
 
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I think croatia is more than capable of producing whatever it needs , so why did you terminate that project ?

thats really a sad thing .

Today? Not really , engineers and experts are long gone. It would take us 10-15 years to get where we were in year 2000.

Some say Americans "advised" to abandon sub program because it was unnecessary for country of Croatia`s size , but while there is some degree of truth in that , it is mostly scapegoating because politicians probably didn`t want to spend money on it. Very shortsighted decision.
 
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Today? Not really , engineers and experts are long gone. It would take us 10-15 years to get where we were in year 2000.

Some say Americans "advised" to abandon sub program because it was unnecessary for country of Croatia`s size , but while there is some degree of truth in that , it is mostly scapegoating because politicians probably didn`t want to spend money on it. Very shortsighted decision.

Why am I not surprised that the Americans had something to do with this. This is not the first time they stopped a country going down the indigenous path. Bur don't get too upset bro. I am sure, if needed, you country could develop submarines if the need arises.
 
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Old boy,you think 600ton boat is rhe reason the U.S/West didnt attack Iran. Lool

There was simply no need to , as the U.S/Britain/NATO were all already involved in a very unpopular war in Afghanistan, then Iraq. Something even our peiple were strongly against. For example this war unpopularity pressured oyr parluament to reject intervenibg in Syria last year. Though our airforce is now active in bombing ISIS in Syria and Iraq now. Just shows how any ground invasion is unpopular today.

So it has nothing to do with Iran finally being able to build a small 590tons submarine something we did over a century ago. Lool

Anyway, im not denying Irans achievements though. They and Turkey are very advanced for a middle eastern country, since i dont see any middle eastern country who can build even a submarine we built over a century ago. Plus Iran has very good scientists indeed. The best in the region(outside Israel obviously), plus the people in general are quite smart/educated, bar their islamic leaders who's foreign policy has been a disaster to say the least . since, had they played their cards right, then they would/coyld have achives far more than they have without being sanctioned and losing out of years of growth/missed opportunities.

So don't exaggerate things by saying the U.S was scared of Iran.lol China and even Russia cant challenge the U.S navy even today, what chance do you thing Iran stands? So lets be realistic.

my friend.. where are you from originally... I mean which city of Pakistan?
 
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