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operation launched in Khyber Agency

FC occupies all heights, destroys 3 militant centres​


* FC chief says operation meant to establish writ of state, not to target particular group
* Says army not involved, operation launched by FC, police
* Mangal Bagh escapes attack, flees to Tirah Valley
* Local militant groups say they will not attack government forces
* Afrasiab Khattak says govt considering second operation in Swat​

By Qazi Rauf

BARA: Paramilitary forces have captured important heights in the Khyber Agency and have taken control of the area, Major General Muhammad Alam Khattak, head of the Frontier Corps, said on Saturday.

“We have launched an operation against terrorists to establish writ of state,” he told reporters in Peshawar a few hours after the launch of the operation. The rising crime rate was responsible for the launch of the operation, he said, adding that it had not been initiated against any particular group. On whether the use of tanks, heavy artillery and helicopters was necessary, NNI quoted Khattak as saying, “We are trying to use maximum force and will avoid collateral damage.”

Not involved: To questioning, the FC chief said the paramilitary force and the police launched the operation and the regular army was not involved. However, he added that the army was on standby and could be called if needed. “I have not seen any resistance. The people welcomed the operation,” he said. The operation could continue for three to four days, he said. Authorities said that around 5,000 security personnel were participating in the operation.

According to AP, likely targets of the offensive were the Ansarul Islam organisation of militant leader Haji Namdar and Mangal Bagh’s Lashkar-e-Islam.

Fleeing leader: In the first hours of the operation, authorities planted explosives around Bagh’s headquarters and blew it up, and the militant leader fled to the remote Tirah Valley along the Afghan border, an intelligence official told AP, on condition of anonymity. A senior security official said the troops fired mortar rounds into militants’ bases and destroyed eight of them, Reuters reported.

No retaliation: Responding to the attack, Namdar’s group said the offensive would only create further problems. “If the government thinks there is any issue to address, that should be resolved through talks, not by the use of force,” said Munsif Khan, spokesman for the group. “We are ready for talks with the government,” he added.

Similarly, Commander Wahid, a spokesman for the LI, told AFP: “The security forces have demolished our commander’s house and our main centre, but we have decided not to fight them. We are not Taliban.”

Second operation: Afrasiab Khattak, chief negotiator for the provincial government, told AP the NWFP government was also considering a second operation in the Swat area.

Meanwhile, locals said that all markets in the region were closed and roads to the area were blocked. “Bara bazaar gives a deserted look as all shops are closed and paramilitary force jawans patrol the area on foot and in armoured personnel carries,” Ibrahim Khan, a resident, told Daily Times by phone.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
 
Security forces launch offensive against militants in Peshawar


PESHAWAR, June 28, 2008: Troops backed by tanks launched an offensive against militants near the Peshawar on Saturday, as the Baitullah Mehsud halted talks with the government.

Soldiers killed one militant and demolished a house belonging to the leader of an militant movement which has effectively taken control of the Khyber tribal district bordering Afghanistan and begun to threaten Peshawar itself.

The operation is the first by the government since it began talks with Taliban militants, although officials said the targeted rebel leader, Mangal Bagh, had no direct links to the Taliban.

"The ultimate goal is to restore the writ of the government," the chief of the paramilitary Frontier Corps force, Mohammad Alam Khattak, told reporters in Peshawar.

"We have secured the heights and we have taken control of the area. A curfew was imposed this morning," he said, adding that the operation was expected to last between five days and one week.

Television footage showed tanks and camouflaged armoured personnel carriers rumbling into the area, while officials said troops had fired several mortar rounds at militant hideouts.

"The security forces have demolished our commander's house and our main centre but we have decided not to fight them. We are not Taliban," Commander Wahid, a spokesman of Lashkar-e-Islam, told AFP.

Resident Mohammad Kabir said the situation was tense in the area with large numbers of paramilitary troops patrolling the streets. "All markets are closed. All exit and entry points have been heavily manned by troops," he told AFP.

Khattak would only say that the operation "is not against a particular group but against criminals. There was only one casualty when a militant was killed when he fired at security forces," he said.

A spokesman for the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, Maulvi Omar, said it was not connected to Bagh. "We respect his commitment to Islamic law but we have no direct or indirect link with him," he told AFP.

Separately top Taliban commander Baitullah Mehsud, accused by authorities of orchestrating the assassination of Benazir Bhutto, said he was halting talks with the authorities.

"We are suspending peace talks with the government because the government is constantly using force against us," Mehsud told AFP by satellite telephone from his stronghold in the South Waziristan tribal district.

"The government is not showing any seriousness and is using force against us. But if the government takes any military action we are also ready for martyrdom," he said.

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We cant take one Baitullah Mehsud out, i don't understand how are we going to establish the writ of the government.
 
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Pakistani forces take control of area in Khyber
By RIAZ KHAN, Associated Press Writer

PESHAWAR, Pakistan - Paramilitary troops returned Sunday to posts they had been forced to abandon and Pakistani forces widened their offensive against militants operating in a volatile tribal area along the Afghan border, an official said.

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The government launched the operation Saturday because the militants in the Khyber region presented an "immediate problem," Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said.

The militants began threatening Peshawar and ambushing supply convoys bound for U.S.-led coalition troops in Afghanistan.

The military operation appears to be a shift in strategy by Pakistan's new government, backing its calls for peace deals in the tribal areas with the threat of forceful action against militants who get out of line.

The United States has criticized the move for peace deals, saying it gives militants the freedom to regroup for attacks on U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan.

Speaking to reporters in Lahore, Gilani defended the peace deals, but warned that authorities will resort to force "if (the groups) backtrack from their agreements and damage state property."

Troops from the paramilitary Frontier Corps, backed by tanks and armored personnel carriers, quickly cleared militants out of the Bara region, said Muhammad Siddiq Khan, a local official.

A tribal paramilitary force that had been forced to abandon its posts in the region several months ago returned to the checkpoints Sunday, he said.

The Frontier Corps met no resistance as it moved into other areas outside Bara, destroying militant bases along the way, he said.

The forces also destroyed a radio station used by the militants to broadcast propaganda and uncovered a torture chamber, said Rehman Malik, head of the Interior Ministry.

He called the operation "very successful" and said the government's authority had been re-established and Peshawar was "totally safe." "Those who commit crimes and believe that they are safe, they will not be allowed to remain safe," he said.

On Saturday, authorities shelled militant hideouts and blew up the headquarters of militant leader Menghal Bagh, who had apparently fled. Another possible target was Haji Namdar's Vice and Virtue Movement, which is suspected of attacks against coalition soldiers in Afghanistan.

Officials in Kabul welcomed the operation in Khyber and reiterated their suspicion that a surge in violence in Afghanistan was partly due to the lack of pressure on militants in Pakistan's tribal areas.

"We endorse this operation, we want this operation to be continued and we want this operation to be successful," Afghanistan's Defense Ministry spokesman Gen. Mohammad Zahir Azimi said.

NATO spokesman Brig. Gen. Carlos Branco said "everything that can minimize the threat in Afghanistan is good for us."

"We know that as long as insurgents can operate safely on the Pakistan side of the border, then there cannot be security in Afghanistan," said Mark Laity, another alliance spokesman.

Muslim Khan, a militant spokesman in Swat, suggested the government had launched the operation at the behest of the United States.

"On the one side they are holding peace talks and on the other side they are breaking peace agreements and then carrying out operations against tribesmen," he told Dawn television.

Baitullah Mehsud, the top Taliban leader in Pakistan, said he was suspending talks between his allies and the government in the wake of the offensive and implied his forces could cause trouble in Pakistan's main cities.

Maj. Gen. Alam Khattak, head of the Frontier Corps, hinted this would not be the only operation against militants and other officials said the volatile Swat region could be next.

On Sunday, a remote-controlled bomb blast killed two soldiers on a foot patrol in Swat's Matta area, a former militant stronghold, army spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas said.

Pro-Taliban fighters have battled security forces in Swat in recent months, despite a peace deal between militants and the new provincial government.

Associated Press writers Saadaqat Jan in Islamabad and Steve Graham in Kabul contributed to this report.
 
We cant take one Baitullah Mehsud out, i don't understand how are we going to establish the writ of the government.

yes he can be taken out - it will require 4 weeks of full scale operations by regular army units backed by cobras. remember baitullah has about 10,000 taliban soldiers.
 
Atrocities in the name of religion have been going on since eternity. Thanks to Zia ul Haq and his MMA supporters, it is a reality in FATA today. These people are true barabrians. Another example of summary justice in Pakistan.

Is this the religion of peace that I swear by every day! This is the kind of Pakistan that Islamists think will be a Utopia !


An article published in the Daily News today ( link is below)

Out of the Dark Ages





Out of the Dark Ages

Sunday, June 29, 2008
Pakistan may be a poor nation in a variety of respects but in terms of casual barbarism among some elements it has a richness and diversity that mark it out as a regional leader. Alleged robbers are immolated by a baying mob. Members of 'peace jirgas' are murdered by the dozen and where the writ of the Taliban runs there is the increasingly regular spectacle of public murder. (We will not aggrandise these acts by using the word 'execution' as it implies a due process of law.) The writ of the Taliban appears to run widely in these troubled times and such control that the government has across vast swathes of the Northwest Frontier and the Tribal Areas is diminishing by the day. Pakistan is slowly but surely getting smaller, being eaten away by the acid of advancing Talibanisation. So as these words are written, news has come in that the much-awaited operation against the Taliban who seemed to have encircled Peshawar and were indeed making forays into its various neighbourhoods, going about telling shopkeepers not to sell immoral products (video and audio CDs to boot), has finally begun. A foreign news wire report also quoted Baitullah Mehsud announcing the suspension of peace talks with the government, an expected development really given Saturday's developments.

As for the grisly drama seen in Bajaur on Friday, reports suggest that as many as 5,000 people may have gathered about 10 kilometres to the west of Khar to watch the public murder of two Afghan nationals who had been found guilty of spying for the Americans. They were found guilty by a local jirga working as a Sharia court and we must assume that it is unlikely that either man had the benefit of representation by a defence lawyer. It is said they confessed their 'crime' but we do not know by what means their confession was extracted, though we may assume that violence played a part in their admission of guilt. Once the men had been murdered to the obvious satisfaction of the onlookers their severed heads were paraded for all to see, prompting an enthusiastic outbreak of aerial firing which left a couple more dead and several seriously wounded.

There is unlikely to be any written record publicly available by which we may evaluate the actions of the court; but there is however a record of the outcome of its proceedings as those doing the murdering were sufficiently engaged with the twenty-first century to be able to record the butchery with a digital camera. The images thus captured will doubtless find their way into the media outlets approved and run by those who created them. Still pictures of the killings were published by every Pakistani newspaper and many foreign newspapers were carrying both story and imagery in their online editions by the morning of 28th June -- though with less explicit pictures than those in the Pakistani press. This will of course serve to consolidate the view in other minds that this is a nation of barbarians -- a view that is increasingly difficult to gainsay.

It is said that America is the only nation on earth to have gone from barbarism to decadence without passing through civilisation along the way. Pakistan has rearranged the order of things by moving from the civilisation we enjoyed millennia ago to a historically brief period of decadence and now, as we move through the Dark Ages, a steady gallop in the direction of barbarism - with civilisation a half-remembered dream. This is also precisely why the military operation launched against the carriers of this dreaded scourge, of this obscurantism who perpetrate gruesome deeds as seen in Bajaur, needs to succeed because -- and one doesn't want to sound too alarmist here but the facts speak for themselves -- the survival of our very way of life is at stake.
 
Niaz said:
Atrocities in the name of religion has been going on since eternity. Thanks to Zia ul Haq and his MMA supporters, it is a reality in FATA today. These people are true barabrians. Another example of summary justice in Pakistan.

This is the left over, and we must improve it, we must strengthen our Constitution which is ours rightfully, never let anyone abrogate it, never let a shadow come onto it, if we just could strengthen the constitution make it supreme it would help the entire nation.

These are the same people that some us still support, Zia was a coward, he would never fly in a plane alone, he use to take his corps commander and the ambassadors with him, he was a munafiq, ZAB declared the Ahmadis Kafir, and Zia worked with them, Ahmadis are very powerful business men in Pakistan and in the world, Zia helped them create sanctuaries in Pakistan and abroad, he hanged a popular Prime Minister who would never have allowed Russia to enter Afghanistan.

There are those who still crave for dictatorships than they should know only in tyranny is there a safe haven for criminals.
 
Pakistan says anti-militant offensive successful

by Tariq Mehmood
Sun Jun 29, 2008

BARA, Pakistan (AFP) - Pakistan's government claimed Sunday that it had saved the northwestern city of Peshawar from militants, as troops pushed forward on the second day of a major offensive against the rebels.

Soldiers backed by armoured vehicles retook control of the main town in the Khyber tribal district, on the outskirts of Peshawar, and also demolished a building belonging to an Islamist insurgent group, officials said.

The government, under pressure from Western allies over its peace talks with militants, launched the operation on Saturday to counter rebels threatening Peshawar and raiding supply convoys for NATO and US troops in Afghanistan.

"The government has been successful in the operation in Khyber which was carried out to safeguard Peshawar," interior ministry chief Rehman Malik told a high-level meeting in Peshawar.

"Peshawar is totally safe. People should take a sound sleep, because their government is awake," Malik said, although he did not say when the operation would finish.

Troops had found several "torture cells" and private jails, senior tribal areas official Habibullah told reporters. An illegal FM radio station used for spreading "hate speech" was also destroyed, Malik added.

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani separately denied the government had launched the operation because of pressure from Washington, adding that he had told US President George W. Bush that talks with militants would continue.

"This is our war and it is for our own survival," Gilani told reporters after a meeting of slain former premier Benazir Bhutto's Pakistan People's Party in Lahore.

"Nobody will be allowed to execute others publicly, kidnap minorities, set fire to girls' schools and barber shops in Pakistan," said Gilani.

In Bara, the main town in Khyber, paramilitary troops patrolled with tanks and set-up sand-bag checkpoints after retaking control of the town, an AFP photographer saw.

Soldiers in a village near Bara on Sunday blew up a building belonging to a Taliban-linked group, Ansar-ul-Islam, which has been accused of sending fighters into Afghanistan, a security official told AFP.

Troops were also advancing to other areas in the district including Ansar-ul-Islam's stronghold in the Tirah Valley, officials said.

On Saturday troops demolished the house and headquarters of Mangal Bagh, the leader of the separate Lashkar-e-Islam (LI) group, which officials said was not linked to the Taliban.

Bagh's group has been accused of robbing vehicles on the Khyber Pass, the main supply route for international forces in Afghanistan, although officials said his men were not responsible for cross-border attacks.

His followers had however threatened Peshawar, burning CD and barber shops deemed un-Islamic and carrying out several kidnappings, the officials said.

Bagh reportedly said he did not know why he was being targeted. "I have told LI volunteers to go home and not to resist any action," he was quoted as saying by the News, an English-language daily.

Standing outside the rubble of Bagh's house, his elder brother Sacha Gul, 50, said local people supported the movement. "Lashkar-e-Islam was not involved in terrorism but it was working to oust criminal elements," he told AFP.

But fears of further violence grew after a spokesman for Pakistan's main Taliban movement said that all peace talks and agreements with the government had been suspended.

The announcement came a day after Pakistan's top Taliban commander Baitullah Mehsud, accused by authorities of masterminding Bhutto's assassination, said he was halting two-month-old negotiations.

Taliban spokesman Maulvi Omar said the group claimed responsibility for the a roadside bomb early Sunday in the troubled northwestern Swat Valley, killing two soldiers.

Four people including a pro-government tribal elder were also shot dead in Swat.

Pakistan's government launched peace talks with rebels soon after defeating allies of US-backed President Pervez Musharraf in February elections.

Pakistan says anti-militant offensive successful - Yahoo! News
 
Niaz,

That was a very powerful article.

Was it published in the vernacular press?

It will surely touch the core of the heart of all Pakistanis who are patriots.

It will anger only the barbaric and the decadent!
 
Niaz,

That was a very powerful article.

Was it published in the vernacular press?

It will surely touch the core of the heart of all Pakistanis who are patriots.

It will anger only the barbaric and the decadent!


It was published in the Daily News, an English Daily, part of the Jang Group. Jang in Urdu is the largest Daily in Pakistan. Daily News however comes second to the Dawn. Unfortunately, our Urdu press has too many Islamist sympathizers and anti Musharraf journalists to write any thing so powerful.

Most of the columnists and editors in the Urdu press are pre-occupied with the judges issue to write about any thing else. English news papers do not have large circulation.
 
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Pakistan force secures Khyber supply area

By Ibrahim Shinwari, Reuters

LANDIKOTAL, Pakistan -- Security forces have secured an area in Pakistan's Khyber region, through which a main supply route passes into Afghanistan, a day after launching an offensive to push back militants threatening Peshawar.
The offensive is the first major military action the new government has launched against militants since it took power after February elections, and comes after growing alarm about the consolidation and spread of militant influence in the northwest.

A senior government official in the region told Reuters there had been no violence since Saturday night.

"The situation is under control. We have destroyed at least three militant hideouts and Frontier Corps soldiers are patrolling and controlling the area," said the official, who declined to be identified.

The Khyber region is home to the Khyber Pass through which vital supplies for Western forces in Afghanistan pass, though the offensive is to the south and traffic from Peshawar to the border had not been affected, the official said.

The region had been virtually free of militant violence until this year but security has deteriorated in recent months as Islamist militants ganged up with the criminals.

Major-General Alam Khattack said on Saturday his forces were focused on Bara town, 15 km (10 miles) southwest of Peshawar.

Paramilitary troops fired mortar bombs at militants and later blew up several of their positions, including the house of militant commander, Mangal Bagh. Roads in and out of Bara have been closed and a curfew imposed.

A security official said one militant was killed on Saturday.

In recent weeks, Islamist vigilantes loyal to Bagh have been roaming into Peshawar neighborhoods. Riding pick-up trucks, fighters wielding Kalashnikovs threatened music and video shop owners, and ordered barbers to stop shaving men's beards.

But Bagh, who an official said had moved to the remote Tirah valley before the offensive, is not allied with notorious Pakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud, and his men are not known for crossing into Afghanistan to attack Western troops.

Bagh told the News newspaper by telephone his Lashkar-i-Islami (LI), or Army of Islam, would not fight the offensive: "I have told LI volunteers to go home and not resist."

Bagh said he did not know why security forces were attacking as his group did not harbor foreign militants or have links with the Taliban or al-Qaida.

Despite the curfew, Bara residents said some people were venturing out to buy supplies.

"Why are they carrying out this operation here if most of the militants have gone? It's useless. It's useless to destroy empty houses," resident Fawad Khan said by telephone.

Security experts said the appearance of the Taliban in Peshawar reflected a failure to halt an Islamist tide rolling in from Taliban and al-Qaida strongholds on the Afghan border.

Residents of Peshawar had begun to fear that the city could fall into the clutches of the Taliban, even though the main army garrison for the northwest is in the city of 3 million.

Apparently in response to the offensive in Khyber, Pakistani Taliban leader Mehsud, based in remote South Waziristan, said he was suspending talks the new government hoped could end violence.
 
An article in today's Dawn. Pervez Hoodbhoy is a die hard pacifist and from anti-nuclear lobby. Nevertheless he is a very learned man and the logic in this article is hard to refute. The link is belw:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=170375


Anti-Americanism & Taliban

By Pervez Hoodbhoy


THE recent killing of eleven Pakistani soldiers at Gora Prai by American and Nato forces across the border in Afghanistan unleashed an amazing storm.

Prime Minister Gilani declared, “We will take a stand for sovereignty, integrity and self-respect.” The military announced defiantly, “We reserve the right to protect our citizens and soldiers against aggression,” while Army chief, Gen Pervez Ashfaq Kayani, called the attack ‘cowardly’. The dead became ‘shaheeds’ and large numbers of people turned up to pray at their funerals.

But had the killers been the Taliban, this would have been a non-event. The storm we saw was more about cause than consequence. Protecting the sovereignty of the state, self-respect, citizens and soldiers against aggression, and the lives of Pakistani soldiers, suddenly all acquired value because the killers were American and Nato troops.

Compare the response to Gora Prai with the near silence about the recent kidnapping and slaughter by Baitullah Mehsud’s fighters of 28 men near Tank, some of whom were shot and others had their throats cut. Even this pales before the hundred or more attacks by suicide bombers over the last year that made bloody carnage of soldiers and officers, devastated peace jirgas and public rallies, and killed hundreds praying in mosques and at funerals.

These murders were largely ignored or, when noted, simply shrugged off. The very different reactions to the casualties of American and Nato violence, compared to those inflicted by the Taliban, reflect a desperate confusion about what is happening in Pakistan and how to respond.

Some newspaper and television commentators want Pakistan to withdraw from the American-led war on Al Qaeda and the Taliban, to stop US fuel and ammunition supplies into Afghanistan, and hit hard against Afghan troops when provoked. One far-right commentator even urges turning our guns against the Americans and Nato, darkly hinting that Pakistan is a nuclear power.

There is, of course, reason for people in Pakistan and across the world to feel negatively about America. In pursuit of its self-interest, wealth and security, the United States has for decades waged illegal wars, bribed, bullied and overthrown governments, supported tyrants, undermined movements for progressive change, and now feels free to kidnap, torture, imprison, and kill anywhere in the world with impunity. All this, while talking about supporting democracy and human rights.

Even Americans — or at least the fair-minded ones among them — admit that there is a genuine problem. A June 2008 report of the US House Committee on Foreign Affairs entitled The Decline in America’s Reputation: Why? concluded that contemporary anti-Americanism stemmed from “the perception that the proclaimed American values of democracy, human rights, tolerance, and the rule of law have been selectively ignored by successive administrations when American security or economic considerations are in play”.

American hypocrisy has played into the hands of Islamic militants. They have been vigorously promoting the notion that this is a bipolar conflict of Islam, which they claim to represent, versus imperialism. Many Pakistanis, who desperately want someone to stand up to the Americans, buy into this.

This is a fatal mistake. The militants are using America as a smokescreen for their real agenda. Created by poverty, a war-culture, and the macabre manipulations of Pakistan’s intelligence services, the militants want more than just to fight an aggressor from across the oceans. Their goal is to establish their writ over that of the Pakistani state. For this, they have been attacking and killing people in Pakistan through the 1990s, well before 9/11. Remember also that the 4,000-plus victims of jihad in Pakistan over the last year have been Muslims with no connection at all to America. In fact, the Taliban are waging an armed struggle to remake society. They will keep fighting this war even if America were to miraculously evaporate into space.

A Taliban victory would transport us into the darkest of dark ages. These fanatics dream of transforming the country into a religious state where they will be the law. They stone women to death, cut off limbs, kill doctors for administering polio shots, force girl-children into burqa, threaten beard-shaving barbers with death, blow up girls schools at a current average of two per week, forbid music, punish musicians, destroy 2000-year statues. Even flying kites is a life-threatening sin.

The Taliban agenda has no place for social justice and economic development. There is silence from Taliban leaders about poverty, and the need to create jobs for the unemployed, building homes, providing education, land reform, or doing away with feudalism and tribalism. They see no need for worldly things like roads, hospitals and infrastructure.

If the militants of Pakistan ever win it is clear what our future will be like. Education, bad as it is today, would at best be replaced by the mind-numbing indoctrination of the madressahs whose gift to society would be an army of suicide bombers. In a society policed by vice-and-virtue squads, music, art, drama, and cultural expressions would disappear. Pakistan would re-tribalise and resemble a cross between Fata and Saudi Arabia (minus the oil).

Pakistanis tolerate these narrow-minded, unforgiving men because they claim to fight for Islam. But the Baitullahs and Fazlullahs know nothing of the diversity, and creative richness of Muslims, whether today or in the past. Intellectual freedom led to science, architecture, medicine, arts and crafts, and literature that were the hallmark of Islamic civilisation in its golden age. They grew because of an open-minded, tolerant, cosmopolitan, and multi-cultural character. Caliphs, such as Haroon-al-Rashid and Al-Mamoun, brought together scholars of diverse faiths and helped establish a flourishing culture. Today’s self-declared amir-ul-momineen, like Mullah Omar, would gladly behead great Islamic scholars like Ibn Sina and Al-Razi for heresy and burn their books.

Pakistan must find the will to fight the Taliban. The state, at both the national and provincial level, must assert its responsibility to protect life and law rather than simply make deals. State functionaries, and even the khasadars, have disappeared from much of the tribal areas. Pakistan is an Islamic state falling into anarchy and chaos, being rapidly destroyed from within by those who claim to fight for Islam.

Pakistanis must not be deceived. This is no clash of civilisations. To the Americans, Pakistan is an instrument to be used for their strategic ends. It is necessary and possible to say no. But the Taliban seek to capture and bind the soul and future of Pakistan in the dark prison fashioned by their ignorance. As they now set their sights on Peshawar and beyond, they must be resisted by all possible means, including adequate military force.

The writer teaches at Quaid-i-Azam University, Islamabad.

I would like to add that the period of Haroon and Mamoun Rashid is considered a golden age by many. However, it was not a very pious period; Imam Ahamd bin Hanbal was hounded out of Baghdad after a 'Manazara' between the Mu'tazzalites and traditionalists. Soon after Mamoun's death ( died 833 AD) the traditionalists started gaining ground. There was a compaign against the influence of foreign thought ( Greek) on Islam. I am no position to say who was in the right ( On Haq). The result of the victory of the traditionalists was that within a few of centuries after Al Mamaoun, all the research and scientific inventions ceased. To this day we remember how great were Muslim scientists; there were none beyond the 13th Century.
 
An article in today's Dawn. Pervez Hoodbhoy is a die hard pacifist and from anti-nuclear lobby. Nevertheless he is a very learned man and the logic in this article is hard to refute. The link is belw:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=170375


Anti-Americanism & Taliban

By Pervez Hoodbhoy


THE recent killing of eleven Pakistani soldiers at Gora Prai by American and Nato forces across the border in Afghanistan unleashed an amazing storm.

Prime Minister Gilani declared, “We will take a stand for sovereignty, integrity and self-respect.” The military announced defiantly, “We reserve the right to protect our citizens and soldiers against aggression,” while Army chief, Gen Pervez Ashfaq Kayani, called the attack ‘cowardly’. The dead became ‘shaheeds’ and large numbers of people turned up to pray at their funerals.

But had the killers been the Taliban, this would have been a non-event. The storm we saw was more about cause than consequence. Protecting the sovereignty of the state, self-respect, citizens and soldiers against aggression, and the lives of Pakistani soldiers, suddenly all acquired value because the killers were American and Nato troops.

Compare the response to Gora Prai with the near silence about the recent kidnapping and slaughter by Baitullah Mehsud’s fighters of 28 men near Tank, some of whom were shot and others had their throats cut. Even this pales before the hundred or more attacks by suicide bombers over the last year that made bloody carnage of soldiers and officers, devastated peace jirgas and public rallies, and killed hundreds praying in mosques and at funerals.

These murders were largely ignored or, when noted, simply shrugged off. The very different reactions to the casualties of American and Nato violence, compared to those inflicted by the Taliban, reflect a desperate confusion about what is happening in Pakistan and how to respond.

Some newspaper and television commentators want Pakistan to withdraw from the American-led war on Al Qaeda and the Taliban, to stop US fuel and ammunition supplies into Afghanistan, and hit hard against Afghan troops when provoked. One far-right commentator even urges turning our guns against the Americans and Nato, darkly hinting that Pakistan is a nuclear power.

There is, of course, reason for people in Pakistan and across the world to feel negatively about America. In pursuit of its self-interest, wealth and security, the United States has for decades waged illegal wars, bribed, bullied and overthrown governments, supported tyrants, undermined movements for progressive change, and now feels free to kidnap, torture, imprison, and kill anywhere in the world with impunity. All this, while talking about supporting democracy and human rights.

Even Americans — or at least the fair-minded ones among them — admit that there is a genuine problem. A June 2008 report of the US House Committee on Foreign Affairs entitled The Decline in America’s Reputation: Why? concluded that contemporary anti-Americanism stemmed from “the perception that the proclaimed American values of democracy, human rights, tolerance, and the rule of law have been selectively ignored by successive administrations when American security or economic considerations are in play”.

American hypocrisy has played into the hands of Islamic militants. They have been vigorously promoting the notion that this is a bipolar conflict of Islam, which they claim to represent, versus imperialism. Many Pakistanis, who desperately want someone to stand up to the Americans, buy into this.

This is a fatal mistake. The militants are using America as a smokescreen for their real agenda. Created by poverty, a war-culture, and the macabre manipulations of Pakistan’s intelligence services, the militants want more than just to fight an aggressor from across the oceans. Their goal is to establish their writ over that of the Pakistani state. For this, they have been attacking and killing people in Pakistan through the 1990s, well before 9/11. Remember also that the 4,000-plus victims of jihad in Pakistan over the last year have been Muslims with no connection at all to America. In fact, the Taliban are waging an armed struggle to remake society. They will keep fighting this war even if America were to miraculously evaporate into space.

A Taliban victory would transport us into the darkest of dark ages. These fanatics dream of transforming the country into a religious state where they will be the law. They stone women to death, cut off limbs, kill doctors for administering polio shots, force girl-children into burqa, threaten beard-shaving barbers with death, blow up girls schools at a current average of two per week, forbid music, punish musicians, destroy 2000-year statues. Even flying kites is a life-threatening sin.

The Taliban agenda has no place for social justice and economic development. There is silence from Taliban leaders about poverty, and the need to create jobs for the unemployed, building homes, providing education, land reform, or doing away with feudalism and tribalism. They see no need for worldly things like roads, hospitals and infrastructure.

If the militants of Pakistan ever win it is clear what our future will be like. Education, bad as it is today, would at best be replaced by the mind-numbing indoctrination of the madressahs whose gift to society would be an army of suicide bombers. In a society policed by vice-and-virtue squads, music, art, drama, and cultural expressions would disappear. Pakistan would re-tribalise and resemble a cross between Fata and Saudi Arabia (minus the oil).

Pakistanis tolerate these narrow-minded, unforgiving men because they claim to fight for Islam. But the Baitullahs and Fazlullahs know nothing of the diversity, and creative richness of Muslims, whether today or in the past. Intellectual freedom led to science, architecture, medicine, arts and crafts, and literature that were the hallmark of Islamic civilisation in its golden age. They grew because of an open-minded, tolerant, cosmopolitan, and multi-cultural character. Caliphs, such as Haroon-al-Rashid and Al-Mamoun, brought together scholars of diverse faiths and helped establish a flourishing culture. Today’s self-declared amir-ul-momineen, like Mullah Omar, would gladly behead great Islamic scholars like Ibn Sina and Al-Razi for heresy and burn their books.

Pakistan must find the will to fight the Taliban. The state, at both the national and provincial level, must assert its responsibility to protect life and law rather than simply make deals. State functionaries, and even the khasadars, have disappeared from much of the tribal areas. Pakistan is an Islamic state falling into anarchy and chaos, being rapidly destroyed from within by those who claim to fight for Islam.

Pakistanis must not be deceived. This is no clash of civilisations. To the Americans, Pakistan is an instrument to be used for their strategic ends. It is necessary and possible to say no. But the Taliban seek to capture and bind the soul and future of Pakistan in the dark prison fashioned by their ignorance. As they now set their sights on Peshawar and beyond, they must be resisted by all possible means, including adequate military force.

The writer teaches at Quaid-i-Azam University, Islamabad.

i agree completely but herein lies the problem - how many pakistanis will have access to this article, how many read the DAWN newspaper? not many unfortunately. the masses read the vile urdu press where supporters of the taliban and their agenda are plentiful and the game goes on!
 
But the Baitullahs and Fazlullahs know nothing of the diversity, and creative richness of Muslims, whether today or in the past. Intellectual freedom led to science, architecture, medicine, arts and crafts, and literature that were the hallmark of Islamic civilisation in its golden age. They grew because of an open-minded, tolerant, cosmopolitan, and multi-cultural character. Caliphs, such as Haroon-al-Rashid and Al-Mamoun, brought together scholars of diverse faiths and helped establish a flourishing culture.

Looking at the underlined above, it shocks me that so many today will dismiss much of he above as "western values leading Muslims astray".

It is no surprise that the majority of the Muslim world has failed to keep up with the West - how many Muslim countries embrace many of the above mentioned values and characteristics?

Musharraf's "enlightened moderation" which purported to establish these values is ridiculed by commentators on TV as "promoting the Western agenda". Shameless and intellectually dishonest we are. So many are secretly in love with a patriarchal, obscurantist and intolerant culture that we dismiss attempts at reform by hinting at evil plots by the perfidious West.

Plots to do what though? Help establish values that respect and promote some basic human decency?
 
Looking at the underlined above, it shocks me that so many today will dismiss much of he above as "western values leading Muslims astray".

It is no surprise that the majority of the Muslim world has failed to keep up with the West - how many Muslim countries embrace many of the above mentioned values and characteristics?

Musharraf's "enlightened moderation" which purported to establish these values is ridiculed by commentators on TV as "promoting the Western agenda". Shameless and intellectually dishonest we are. So many are secretly in love with a patriarchal, obscurantist and intolerant culture that we dismiss attempts at reform by hinting at evil plots by the perfidious West.

Plots to do what though? Help establish values that respect and promote some basic human decency?

Dear AM,

Does this not point in one direction only ? Lack of proper education. See the scandanavian countries they are perfect examples of happiness. If you can seperate education from religion you have found success as they have done.

Regards
 
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