Fareed: China's own missteps are turning world against them

[Reashot Xigwin]

Lol. You are overrating a veggie herbivore in a predators world.. A nation full of peasants will fold faster then anything they have no stomach for this shxt.. China won't need to fire one bullet on India.. Pakistan will go all the way to Tamil Nadu. PK is More organized and battle hardened will run thru this disorganized and disunited veggie ragtags.. PK will savage and ravage them. Forget about PK taging some other gangs in central Asia with her on the campaign. Don't be deluded by India it is an incompetent country..

By the way... You are forgetting that the US can't fight on the eastern theatre at all do to logistical reasons but only on the western theatre.. Australia forget about them they ain't crossing into one Island to Small population and irrelevant and far away.. India is alone in the Eurasian Continent this is militarily fact and no aid will come in the eastern threater just like the same reason one won't come for Taiwan.. Japan won't get involved at all and the same with South Korea

There's not a lot of assurance on your part just wishes. Saying that SK & Japan is not going to participate in a war is just naive & wishful thinking. When Japan & SK are pretty much treaty bound to help the US in any conflict especially if it right next door. & public opinion of china in the 2 country is abysmal there is no chance they will allow the chinese to take over Asia.

Also all the US doesn't need to fight a land war. The pentagon doesn't recommend a regime change just take out any chinese offensive capabilities. Essentially neutering china.

A strike at 3 gorges dam alone can take out 20% of the PLA capabilities & not even counting the damages it will do to half the country.

This is why Allies is so important in fighting a war & why China is pretty much effed in any future conflict.

 

[Titanium100]

There's not a lot of assurance on your part just wishes. Saying that SK & Japan is not going to participate in a war is just naive & wishful thinking. When Japan & SK are pretty much treaty bound to help the US in any conflict especially if it right next door. & public opinion of china in the 2 country is abysmal there is no chance they will allow the chinese to take over Asia.

Also all the US doesn't need to fight a land war. The pentagon doesn't recommend a regime change just take out any chinese offensive capabilities. Essentially neutering china.

A strike at 3 gorges dam alone can take out 20% of the PLA capabilities & not even counting the damages it will do to half the country.

This is why Allies is so important in fighting a war & why China is pretty much effed in any future conflict.

They have already retreated and made statements they want none of this smoke. SK has been very quit even refused to join quad and Japan is retreating now after finding out US can't save Taiwan due to it being logistically impossible for them to fight on the eastern theater even one of the highest ranking US generals said this recently but I knew that before he even said that.. From a conventional point of view it doesn't look logistically realistic for the US to engage china in an area where they are vastly outnumbered and at disadvantage so they will look to find a better battleground to engage China in.. They will look to draw china out to central Asia or east-europe

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

They have already retreated and made statements they want none of this smoke. SK has been very quit even refused to join quad and Japan is retreating now after finding out US can't save Taiwan due to it being logistically impossible for them to fight on the eastern theater even one of the highest ranking US generals said this recently but I knew that before he even said that.. From a conventional point of view it doesn't look logistically realistic for the US to engage china in an area where they are vastly outnumbered and at disadvantage so they will look to find a better battleground to engage China in.. They will look to draw china out to central Asia or east-europe

Made statement doesn't mean anything. China made a lot of statement & most ended up being a lie. Like there was no covid. Unless there's a signature it's worthless.

Also can you think critically. SK is already part of US sphere & maybe doesn't see much point in joining QUAD but it doesn't mean they're not going to help the US especially when the future of Asia is at stake & when North Korea is also likely joining in.

Japan only states that they will not sends troops & materials to taiwan, they're not against sending troops to help the US elsewhere.

Also take every result of a wargame you see with a pinch of salt. It's like when the iranians here uses a US wargame results when it said it can beat the US (you know which one). The result only happens when a western trained officers are in charge of the Chinese armed forces. The problem with this is that most of chinese higher ups went up the rank through corruption & political connections.
https://thediplomat.com/2020/05/the-invisible-threat-to-chinas-navy-corruption/
There's also Mao's grandson who is given a general position at 35! & is famous in china for picking his nose in public & marrying a waiter (also killing his wife allegedly so he can married his next wife.)

Mao Xinyu, the Chairman’s potbellied grandson – The China Project

Chairman Mao Zedong’s only grandson, Xinyu, descended on the male line, with nothing to recommend him aside from the family name he carries like a sacred flame. His life’s work has been to dutifully promote his grandfather — a “god” — and study his brand of Communism, “Mao Zedong Thought.”

supchina.com

Not to mention there's a political commisars assigned alongside high ranking military officers & given the same authority as them. Making decision making complicated to say the least.

Now this only tell you the kind of monsters Arlington & Norfolk produces than actual chinese capability.

Also in the 3rd result is that the US won albeit a phyrric victory thx to advanced US techs.

 

[applesauce]

A strike at 3 gorges dam alone can take out 20% of the PLA capabilities & not even counting the damages it will do to half the country.

This is why Allies is so important in fighting a war & why China is pretty much effed in any future conflict.

thats cause for a nuclear counter strike.

also that dam is not easy to destroy, its a gravity dam, it doesnt hold back water based on some intricate design that has a large weak point(think weight supporting pillars), it holds back water by its pure weight, size and the friction between it and the bedrock, it would take repeated strikes by conventional weapons in one location to poke a hole in it, and even if you put a hole in it, each section is structurally independent of any other section, meaning your hole is not going to cause the overall dam to fail, and if its a small hole, there would be zero issues in the short term. the destruction of the kind in your wet dreams would basically take a nuclear strike. the dam is also protected by its own dedicated air anti-air unit and deep within central china, nothing short of a sustained air campaign by an enemy that could overcome the plaaf and anti-air ground forces on a large scale is likely to take it out, and on that scale, only the us could maybe do so, but it would be ww3 levels of campaign scale, if you could force your way that far into china and lob enough explosives to take a structure like the 3 gorges dam, nukes would probably already be flying.

 

[Feng Leng]

thats cause for a nuclear counter strike.

also that dam is not easy to destroy, its a gravity dam, it doesnt hold back water based on some intricate design that has a large weak point(think weight supporting pillars), it holds back water by its pure weight, size and the friction between it and the bedrock, it would take repeated strikes by conventional weapons in one location to poke a hole in it, and even if you put a hole in it, each section is structurally independent of any other section, meaning you hole is not going to cause the overall dam to fail, and if its a small hole, there would be zero issues in the short term. the destruction of the kind in your wet dreams would basically take a nuclear strike. the dam is also protected by its own dedicated air anti-air unit and deep within central china, nothing short of a sustained air campaign by an enemy that could overcome the plaaf and anti-air ground forces on a large scale is likely to take it out, and on that scale, only the us could maybe do so, but it would be ww3 levels of campaign scale, if you could force your way that far into china and lob enough explosives to take a structure like the 3 gorges dam, nukes would probably already be flying.

Just let him masturbate himself with the Three Gorges Dam -- as if a giant dam in the middle of nowhere in rural China is some kind of strategic weakness that can save USA from being nuked by JL-3 SLBM

 

[My-Analogous]

India is nuclear power & the only counterweight to china in the region. There's no way for any world power to let china change the status quo of the region. Especially at the hand of a communist dictatorship.

Exactly this is no longer the 60s & the 70s meaning there's no more soviet daddy or other warsaw pact countries to protect or help china. Any conflict china fight they will be doing it alone. Also hurt how exactly? QUAD & NATO countries can strike every chinese bases & even the capital if needed to while China's range are limited. If QUAD/NATO wanted China dead they'll be dead already.

China has no ally. Not full weather reliable one like the US with UK, France, Japan, South Korea, Australia, etc. & I'm not counting regional partners. I find that china able to hurt a coalition of the most advanced & powerful on the planet a bit ridiculous.

The biggest advantage we have that you don't have any friendly neighbor and all three you mentioned are very near to you. Your daddy US will not allow to do anything against his policy, so dream on but your hands already tie by US

 

[Beast]

There's not a lot of assurance on your part just wishes. Saying that SK & Japan is not going to participate in a war is just naive & wishful thinking. When Japan & SK are pretty much treaty bound to help the US in any conflict especially if it right next door. & public opinion of china in the 2 country is abysmal there is no chance they will allow the chinese to take over Asia.

Also all the US doesn't need to fight a land war. The pentagon doesn't recommend a regime change just take out any chinese offensive capabilities. Essentially neutering china.

A strike at 3 gorges dam alone can take out 20% of the PLA capabilities & not even counting the damages it will do to half the country.

This is why Allies is so important in fighting a war & why China is pretty much effed in any future conflict.

China HGV and can evade and strike US dams if China dam is target. There is nothing to stop it.

Check Out China's New DF-17 Hypersonic Glide Vehicle: A Real Killer?

Can the U.S. military match it? How capable is it?

nationalinterest.org

You are delusion. Those treaty pact are nothing but worthless paper. Japan and SK are doing what is best for their own country. Not running dogs for others.

Japan expected to take position of ‘ambiguity’ on Taiwan issue

Suga says statement with Biden calling for peace and stability across the strait ‘does not presuppose military involvement’.

www.scmp.com

• Suga says statement with Biden calling for peace and stability across the strait ‘does not presuppose military involvement’
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• Analyst says Tokyo doesn’t want to take a clear stand on whether it would help protect the island because it would be a threat to its own security

CNN's Fareed Zakaria gives his take on why China's increasingly assertive foreign policy is putting it at odds not just with foreign nations, but also with its own interests.

What u expect from an Indian swindler? Do you think they will speak the truth?

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

The biggest advantage we have that you don't have any friendly neighbor and all three you mentioned are very near to you. Your daddy US will not allow to do anything against his policy, so dream on but your hands already tie by US

FAFO

China HGV and can evade and strike US dams if China dam is target. There is nothing to stop it.

Check Out China's New DF-17 Hypersonic Glide Vehicle: A Real Killer?

Can the U.S. military match it? How capable is it?

nationalinterest.org

You are delusion. Those treaty pact are nothing but worthless paper. Japan and SK are doing what is best for their own country. Not running dogs for others.

Japan expected to take position of ‘ambiguity’ on Taiwan issue

Suga says statement with Biden calling for peace and stability across the strait ‘does not presuppose military involvement’.

www.scmp.com

• Suga says statement with Biden calling for peace and stability across the strait ‘does not presuppose military involvement’
• 
  
• Analyst says Tokyo doesn’t want to take a clear stand on whether it would help protect the island because it would be a threat to its own security

What u expect from an Indian swindler? Do you think they will speak the truth?

What do you think ambiguity is? If you think South Korea & Japan is going to keel over & let china take over Asia is just delusion on your part.

Meanwhile US have a 6th gen fighters already flying, Hypersonic missiles already announced & a stealth bomber stationed at every bases near china.

China have no tech advantages over the US.

 

[Beast]

FAFO



What do you think ambiguity is? If you think South Korea & Japan is going to keel over & let china take over Asia is just delusion on your part.

Meanwhile US have a 6th gen fighters already flying, Hypersonic missiles already announced & a stealth bomber stationed at every bases near china.

China have no tech advantages over the US.

Indeed. Why stop the inevitable? They have been in such situation for many century and they still able to maintain its status as independent. South Korea and Japan has to depend on China market for growth. Without China market, both countries will collapse.

 

[RabzonKhan]

So much hatred, wow. All I see is mudslinging and guilt by association fallacy, instead of addressing his argument/opinion.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Indeed. Why stop the inevitable? They have been in such situation for many century and they still able to maintain its status as independent. South Korea and Japan has to depend on China market for growth. Without China market, both countries will collapse.

Japan & South Korea is not a 3rd world country that rely on a single source of income. Just look at Australia for all the chinese here saying that Australia depends on China & will collapse without china. Didn't happen. Also do not over estimate china place in the world. Especially when a lot of SK & Japan factories are already moving away from china. And economic growth are relatives both countries can go for other emerging markets for growth. Nobody in south korea or Japan wants to be china's slaves.

The world existed without chinese trade before & it can continue again.

 

[Surya 1]

CNN's Fareed Zakaria gives his take on why China's increasingly assertive foreign policy is putting it at odds not just with foreign nations, but also with its own interests.

Xin Ping is destroying whatever was built by his predecessors with the Sacrifice Of previous generation of chinese.

 

[Beast]

Japan & South Korea is not a 3rd world country that rely on a single source of income. Just look at Australia for all the chinese here saying that Australia depends on China & will collapse without china. Didn't happen. Also do not over estimate china place in the world. Especially when a lot of SK & Japan factories are already moving away from china. And economic growth are relatives both countries can go for other emerging markets for growth. Nobody in south korea or Japan wants to be china's slaves.

The world existed without chinese trade before & it can continue again.

LOL.. You are delusion. Australia is suffering now and only the lapdog media keep spewing false news to paint a fake rosy picture for Australia.

Tell me, how big is australia compare to South Korea and Japan and how much raw material Australia exported compare to finished products exported by SK and Japan?

SK and Japan move out factory from China to where? Covid-19 ridden India which factories stop working due to lockdown becos workers got infected. The same country run by incompetent people which result the 2nd wave of covid-19?

China is the biggest importer of South Korea products. Without China who takeover? Indonesia?

South Korea Exports By Country

Trading Economics provides data for 20 million economic indicators from 196 countries including actual values, consensus figures, forecasts, historical time series and news. South Korea Exports By Country - was last updated on Monday, October 28, 2024.

tradingeconomics.com

Same as Japan

Japan’s Top Trading Partners 2023

Japan's top trading partners in 2023 plus worst trade deficits & best surpluses by major buyer countries

www.worldstopexports.com

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

LOL.. You are delusion. Australia is suffering now and only the lapdog media keep spewing false news to paint a fake rosy picture for Australia.

Tell me, how big is australia compare to South Korea and Japan and how much raw material Australia exported compare to finished products exported by SK and Japan?

SK and Japan move out factory from China to where? Covid-19 ridden India which factories stop working due to lockdown becos workers got infected. The same country run by incompetent people which result the 2nd wave of covid-19?

China is the biggest importer of South Korea products. Without China who takeover? Indonesia?

South Korea Exports By Country

Trading Economics provides data for 20 million economic indicators from 196 countries including actual values, consensus figures, forecasts, historical time series and news. South Korea Exports By Country - was last updated on Monday, October 28, 2024.

tradingeconomics.com

Same as Japan

Japan’s Top Trading Partners 2023

Japan's top trading partners in 2023 plus worst trade deficits & best surpluses by major buyer countries

www.worldstopexports.com

Trade =/= obedience. If I offer china a billion dollar and I ask them to suck my dick & debase themselves for my amusement would they do it?

For example Imperial Germany & the UK used to be major trading partner before ww1. Guess what happens? Trade is not a guarantee for anything what is with chinese here not getting it? If Australia left & still fine what does that tell you?

Australia's GDP bounce defies China's trade pressure

Exporters find alternative customers as Morrison's COVID response pays off

asia.nikkei.com

SK & Japan have a transactional relationship with china that is it. The US is a treaty allies, have techs sharing agreement, Academic exchange, guarantees freedom, part of the bretton wood systems & much more I can't even count.

To throw it away for a mere 3% growth is insanity & basically no other benefits to counter it is insane. Not to mention that both countries hate China to the core with Japan being maxed out.

US can depend on both SK & Japan to come to her aid due to them being a treaty allies & would never accept China as their overlord. That is more guarantee than Pakistan joining China in a future war. China will lose period. It's pretty much pre-destined at this point if Xi continues this self destructive behavior.

 

[Beast]

Trade =/= obedience. If I offer china a billion dollar and I ask them to suck my dick & debase themselves for my amusement would they do it?

For example Imperial Germany & the UK used to be major trading partner before ww1. Guess what happens? Trade is not a guarantee for anything what is with chinese here not getting it? If Australia left & still fine what does that tell you?

Australia's GDP bounce defies China's trade pressure

Exporters find alternative customers as Morrison's COVID response pays off

asia.nikkei.com

SK & Japan have a transactional relationship with china that is it. The US is a treaty allies, have techs sharing agreement, Academic exchange, guarantees freedom, part of the bretton wood systems & much more I can't even count.

To throw it away for a mere 3% growth is insanity & basically no other benefits to counter it is insane. Not to mention that both countries hate China to the core with Japan being maxed out.

US can depend on both SK & Japan to come to her aid due to them being a treaty allies & would never accept China as their overlord. That is more guarantee than Pakistan joining China in a future war. China will lose period. It's pretty much pre-destined at this point if Xi continues this self destructive behavior.

LOL.. Another delusion post by you, All countries work based on interest and there is no other countries as stupid as Australia who do US bidding blindly. If Australia is not a white majority and english speaking countries. I am sure they will not be stupid enough to do sell their country against China.

Japan and SK giving empty promise to US and US military will spend more in Japan and SK to boast their economy. Treaty is just like a piece of paper. It can be tear up many times as demonstrated by US.

Why are you avoiding my inquiry where to replace biggest import of SK and Japan if they decide to pick a war with China. It cannot be replaced and they are not foolish to damage their rich bowl