"Faiz Festival girl" Arooj Aurangzaib, an elite or burger?

[B.K.N]

So, Jamiyat is fine, but these guys are not?

Did anyone stopped them from organizing Faiz festival?
If not then what is your problem?

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Every Union.

Jamiat does not oppose the constitution of Pakistan.
These guys have issues with the religious element in the constitution.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Jamiat does not oppose the constitution of Pakistan.
These guys have issues with the religious element in the constitution.

Its not anout opposing the constitution. These guys use unions to blackmail. If you oppose one member of the union you get beaten up by the whole union.
Just look at the lawyers union. Will anyone be in favour of such union???

 

[jamahir]

First off all who is tableeghi jamastis am a bit confused.

Umm, you confuse me now. From your flags, you live in Pakistan ( South Asia ) and don't know who the Tableeghi Jamaat are. Basically, they are a missionary movement, except that they don't preach "Islam" to non-Muslims but to those Muslims who they think are not being Muslim enough. The TJ originated in India in 1927.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablighi_Jamaat

Second off all TTP is pretty much dead.

I will say here that as long as institutions like the Red Mosque and people like Fazal-ur-Rehman remain, the TTP will find sympathy and will survive in however little form as can be.

So the only damage being done to Pakistan is by mera jism meri marzi

I am sure she doesn't speak for people who just want to sleep around.

and how can we forget the corrupt politicians

I am sure she and her comrades see themselves in the same fashion that Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, Nasser and Gaddafi saw themselves. Revolutionaries.

They want power, yes they want power, but not to enrich themselves but to remove Pakistan from the bonds of regressive culture and make Pakistan a Socialist welfare state. This I could understand from what little I have known of them.

Jamiat does not oppose the constitution of Pakistan.
These guys have issues with the religious element in the constitution.

When Jamal Abdul Nasser became President of Egypt, he and his comrades modified the Constitution to reflect a Progressive change in the country. He was a Socialist. And Islam is an older Socialist system. So, if these young Socialist revolutionaries in Pakistan go to the extent of changing the Constitution a bit, there should be no opposition from the people of Pakistan.

 

[B.K.N]

Fazal-ur-Rehman

These liberals are biggest supporters of Fazlur Rehmam
Why are you against tableeghi jammat?
They are not involved in any criminal activities

 

[Musafir117]

No
No
No student unions tolla please.
We suffered a lot already by these type of groups all turned funds by current corrupt politics elites and than HANGAMA BADMASHI every college university.
No
No

 

[jamahir]

These liberals are biggest supporters of Fazlur Rehmam

How ??

And I don't think they want to address themselves as Liberals.

Why are you against tableeghi jammat?
They are not involved in any criminal activities

In India in the last 10 years, the Tableeghi Jamaat has infiltrated into educational institutions and work places, and has brainwashed young Muslims into believing a false and regressive version of Islam.

At best they are an irritation. At worst they are the stepping stone towards young Muslims joining or supporting terrorist groups like al-Qaeda and ISIS. Read this story from 2014 of a young Indian man who created a Twitter account called Shami Witness which he used to advise terrorists who wanted to cross the border into Syria to fight against the Syrian government. I am sure this young man, who was soon arrested, had been radicalized by the Tableeghi Jamaat. That addresses your point about the TJ and criminal activities.

Also, if we recall the murderers of the Pakistani student, Mashal Khan, I am sure they had some connection with the TJ.

 

[Great Janjua]

Umm, you confuse me now. From your flags, you live in Pakistan ( South Asia ) and don't know who the Tableeghi Jamaat are. Basically, they are a missionary movement, except that they don't preach "Islam" to non-Muslims but to those Muslims who they think are not being Muslim enough. The TJ originated in India in 1927.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablighi_Jamaat



I will say here that as long as institutions like the Red Mosque and people like Fazal-ur-Rehman remain, the TTP will find sympathy and will survive in however little form as can be.



I am sure she doesn't speak for people who just want to sleep around.



I am sure she and her comrades see themselves in the same fashion that Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, Nasser and Gaddafi saw themselves. Revolutionaries.

They want power, yes they want power, but not to enrich themselves but to remove Pakistan from the bonds of regressive culture and make Pakistan a Socialist welfare state. This I could understand from what little I have known of them.

Yes I agree people like maulna diesel can turn their followers into a TTP type splinter group but this needs to be delt with caution removing maulna diesel has to be done in a specific way which will make his followers realise they had been led by a corrupt dangerous minded crackpot.And yes we cannot assume she does not represent the meri jism meri types off groups as off yet but something tells me otherwise but let's dismiss that accusation as off now. Am pretty sure these people cannot be called revolutionist rather puppets.Trying to hold protest for ideas which were clearly not in favour off education rather against and had been proven ineffective thus banned yet despite the evidence these so called socialist continue to harm the social environment off colleges schools and universities

 

[B.K.N]

In India in the last 10 years, the Tableeghi Jamaat has infiltrated into educational institutions and work places, and has brainwashed young Muslims into believing a false and regressive version of Islam

Then Indian and Pakistani tableegbi jammats are not same
Leader of Pakistani tableeghi jammat is Tarik Jameel check his YouTube videos
Most of the people go with tableeghis just to visit different areas of Pakistan

 

[jamahir]

Yes I agree people like maulna diesel can turn their followers into a TTP type splinter group but this needs to be delt with caution removing maulna diesel has to be done in a specific way which will make his followers realise they had been led by a corrupt dangerous minded crackpot.

I agree.

Am pretty sure these people cannot be called revolutionist rather puppets.

Puppets of whom ??

Trying to hold protest for ideas which were clearly not in favour off education rather against and had been proven ineffective thus banned yet despite the evidence these so called socialist continue to harm the social environment off colleges schools and universities

But this girl, Arooj, is not harming the environment but just making the students aware about the various socio-economic injustices that are part of the society.

If you think she is harming the environment, can you please tell me how ??

Then Indian and Pakistani tableegbi jammats are not same

Well, the foundation is the same.

Leader of Pakistani tableeghi jammat is Tarik Jameel check his YouTube videos

OK, I will in the coming days watch his vids but what comes to mind when you mentioned his name, is the radically changed appearance of the singer Junaid Jamshed.

Most of the people go with tableeghis just to visit different areas of Pakistan

I see.

 

[Great Janjua]

I agree.



Puppets of whom ??



But this girl, Arooj, is not harming the environment but just making the students aware about the various socio-economic injustices that are part of the society.

If you think she is harming the environment, can you please tell me how ??

Puppets off Political Parties which want Gangs again in universities.By environment am not talking about the grass she is bouncing up and down on am talking about the social/education environment students want to be left alone they already have enough worries as it is and then you have people like her who want to divert everyone's attention from their subject off learning and prospering and shifting it on too proven ineffective ideas.

 

[Xestan]

Did anyone stopped them from organizing Faiz festival?
If not then what is your problem?

Problem is with the message I replied to.

 

[B.K.N]

Problem is with the message I replied to.

If they are free to organize Faiz festival then PDF members and other Pakistanis are also free to criticize them
Or only landay k liberals have the right of freedom of speech?

 

[jamahir]

By environment am not talking about the grass she is bouncing up and down on am talking about the social/education environment

Yaar, I know that.

students want to be left alone they already have enough worries as it is and then you have people like her who want to divert everyone's attention from their subject off learning and prospering

As example, I will give the worsening condition of India. Students here largely are not taught Progressive ideas during their school and college days. They are taught only what will potentially give them jobs after finishing "education". They are not taught to think. The result is that India now has Regressive people in Power who don't really care about such important things as the suicide of farmers ( between 1995 and 2015, 300,000+ farmers committed suicide ).

The education system, everywhere, should have social studies with Socialism as a compulsory part of study.

Which is why people like Arooj are necessary to make both students and teachers aware of what is wrong and what should be done to remove that wrong.

The prospering, that you said, should be of the entire society and not just of one individual.

and shifting it on too proven ineffective ideas.

Let us consider Cuba, Libya before 2011, the USSR, Venezuela until the current troubles, even China, etc.

Socialism worked there

 

[B.K.N]

The education system, everywhere, should have social studies with Socialism as a compulsory part of study.

The only person who talks about common Pakistanis in Pakistan is prime minister Imran Khan
These liberals are supporters of those parties which have looted Pakistan for decades