Welcome to the forums. I must say it is nice to see such strong opinionated, reasoned and passionate people as you and dadi ji aka
@Divergent1 
-Coming to your point that touches on the argument that I've been making.
First off, what you are saying is drastically different than the argument of @Divergent1. If you see the opening post, one of the corner stone arguments made by her is that,
her proposal is for "[Personal]safety reasons (for the women wearing the burqa)". This is the basis for the argument regarding the skimpy clothing, because
just like recent surge of hate crimes might have targeted Muslim women wearing the hijab, historically we do see certain serial killers and serial rapists targeting women that wear skimpy clothing. e.g. Jack the ripper, Yorkshire ripper and Green river killer etc. So, if your argument to "advice" women that dressing as such in the current climate might put you at risk (one of the main arguments made by the OP), then the same applies to skimpy clothing as well.
-Secondly,
when you say "You don't see a woman or anyone hiding bombs in their bikinis, yet they do in Burqas " and use it as your reasoning to propagate your view of a "burqa ban or willingly dropping burqas" .. Here is something that might be a bit painful to read, that I didn't bring up earlier in the thread, but based on your response ... it has to be said for the argument that you made. Do closely observe the following;
- LTTE (tamil tigers) women were documented using "bra bombs" where the explosives would be hidden inside their bras, so that they could get past security. In fact the assassination of Indian prime minister Rajiv Gandhi was carried out in 1991 was carried out by a tamil tiger (Thenmozhi Rajaratnam, also known as Dhanu) who hid the explosives in her bra.
- There was an attempt by AQAB (a branch of Al Qaeda) where a terrorist (Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab) tried to detonate plastic explosives hidden inside his underwear.
- Another terrorist (Abdullah al-Asiri) from the same organization tried to kill a saudi official, where he hid the explosives inside his rectum.
So if the burqa should be banned or willingly put down for "security reasons" ... should muslim women also have their bras, undies and rectums checked ? or should undies and bras be banned? Ofcourse, that line of logic is only reserved for things that YOU DONT LIKE i.e. Burqa in this case, while it can easily be applied on other articles of clothing as well .
-Like I quoted before;
According to Peter Neumann, a professor of security studies at King's College: "I don't know of a single case in which a burqa ban stopped a terrorist attack or hindered someone's descent into terrorism."
How are you comparing Face veil to under garments?? The question in motion here isn't if females should strip themselves visible. Please avoid bringing inappropriate content which doesn't relate - surely not 'kid' enough for that now are we?
The face veil removal by all means isn't racist and certainly not anti-Muslim.
To further tie this argument baklavas/hoods/helmet anything to do with face cover is outlawed.
The current suggestion of advising or removal of 'face veils' isn't wrong based on
security purposes and if we're really going to get that nitty gritty about security and who escapes it then there's so much at fault which goes off tangent from the current point. Keep it to the point and relevant.
Peter Neumann's argument is irrelevant because I haven't discussed nor put at question Burqas, so a comparative argument can't be made on the same scale if it was then it also puts at question coats, loose wear etc.
The question here is face covering removal irrespective of what it is, isn't part of the Western Culture. Yet the West has allowed (somewhat) free movement of Muslim practice. How many Muslim women do you see attending their local Masjid's for any of their daily prayers in Pakistan? How many head sisters are there? Look internal and around.
Roki Aprisdianto (29), a convicted Indonesian terrorist held at the Jakarta Metropolitan Police detention centre, has escaped disguised as a woman in niqab, according to the police.
Some years ago
Mustafa Jumaa’ a Somali who killed a British policeman fled Britain disguised as a Muslim woman wearing the Niqab. No one would challenge him at the airport. The use of the niqab, which leaves only a narrow slit for the eyes, exposed the lax security measure at British airports.
In the city of
Philadelphia, USA, between December 2011 and April 2012, there had been at least five bank robberies in which the suspects wore Muslim clothing. Security reasons aside common sense demands that people see each other faces and interact with each other at schools, banks, hospitals, court of law, airports, and at police stations.
.. ended up driving in to City instead.
