F-INSAS assault rifle some options???

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5.56 has some drawbacks thats why the 6.8 and 6.5 rounds were created US special forces were given the 6.8mm and they were "very pleased" with it as the round as better stopping power than 5.56

the IA and Rashtriya rifles use Czech 7.62 rifles in Kashmir for the stopping power they give because 5.56 maims enemies but does not kill them

and soldiers would not touch a hot barrel of there gun they would wait until it is cooled then replace if it's necessary like i said the primary caliber for this F-INSAS needs to be 6.8

Well sir check your post #109 it was you only who was saying that at close quaters both 5.54 and 7.62 are equally lethal. And the reason why they use AK in kashmir is not because of calliber but because of its reliability and nice rate of fire.
BTW do you really think that soldiers will wait for barrel to get cool down
so that they can change it lol. Actually what they can do is to change the length of buttstock so that they can operate in close quaters much easilly.

 

[LiberalAtheist]

Hey guys this is SAR21 which was supposed to be the base rifle design on which our new carbine was supposed to be based. on this rfile was made by singapore firm STK but after it got blacklisted the project got stranded. Any more info on this????

its a good weapon but can only fire 5.56 nato its a shame it has picatinny rails and good ergonomics

 

[LiberalAtheist]

Well sir check your post #109 it was you only who was saying that at close quaters both 5.54 and 7.62 are equally lethal. And the reason why they use AK in kashmir is not because of calliber but because of its reliability and nice rate of fire.
BTW do you really think that soldiers will wait for barrel to get cool down
so that they can change it lol. Actually what they can do is to change the length of buttstock so that they can operate in close quaters much easilly.

you don't have to be a soldier to know not to touch the gun of a barrel after it has finished firing

and in CQB 5.56 can be effective even 9mm our commandos are equipped with 9mm version of the TAR-21

there was a whole controversy over INSAS performance in Kashmir because of reliability of the weapon and its caliber only maims enemies rather than kill them, the INSAS 5.56 theory was if you shoot and injure an enemy his comrades will come out to help him so you get more damage done but the militants in Kashmir did evacuate or help an injured comrade because they wanted to achieve martyrdom so thats why we use Czech 7.62 rifles in Kashmir because of its reliability and good stopping powe

 

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i told simmilar not same the insas mag is inspired by the steryr aug
her are some pics compare yourself a slight feeder port change can bring it working

Sir can't we add casket magazines on our INSAS.It is a form of box magazine, sometimes also referred as a quad-column which can hold a great amount of ammunition retaining the length of a standard magazine although wider. Casket magazines can be found on the Suomi KP/-31, Hafdasa C-4, Spectre M4, QCW-05 and on 5.45x39mm AK rifle derivatives.Even Magpul has recently been granted a patent for a STANAG compatible casket magazine(maybe for Masada) and by SureFire in December 2010 as the High Capacity Magazine (HCM) with an ammo capacity of 60 and 100 rounds, respectively.

 

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its a good weapon but can only fire 5.56 nato its a shame it has picatinny rails and good ergonomics

Actually sir this design was supposed to act as a base design for F INSAS carbine they would have made it a multi calliber but it was dropped in mid way.

 

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you don't have to be a soldier to know not to touch the gun of a barrel after it has finished firing

and in CQB 5.56 can be effective even 9mm our commandos are equipped with 9mm version of the TAR-21

there was a whole controversy over INSAS performance in Kashmir because of reliability of the weapon and its caliber only maims enemies rather than kill them, the INSAS 5.56 theory was if you shoot and injure an enemy his comrades will come out to help him so you get more damage done but the militants in Kashmir did evacuate or help an injured comrade because they wanted to achieve martyrdom so thats why we use Czech 7.62 rifles in Kashmir because of its reliability and good stopping powe

I know that sir but my aim was not to insult you what I was trying to say is that the reason why army wants a multi calliber rifle is so that they can change its calliber before the mission acc to mission's need thats it like if they are going for a counter insurgency they can switch to a calliber which is suitable for CQB and in a battlefield they just stick to their primary calliber which is 6.8mm in this case ,but if they need to fight a close quatter battle during wartime what they do is to change the length of rifle rather than its barrel which could be easilly achived by a folding buttstock .

 

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Here is nice video on FN SCAR

can any one tell me what is the cost of this rifle.

 

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A little offtopic but worth a shot her's a nice video on FELIN program of France

I hope even our jawans become that lethal after F INSAS gets over

 

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its a good weapon but can only fire 5.56 nato its a shame it has picatinny rails and good ergonomics

I MOD should rethink about it as SAR21 is a very nice rifle and if it can fire 6.8mm in future there should be no probelm in inducting it.

 

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SAR21 are very nice rifle and cost effective too
here COST analysis:
INSAS: 450USD
Bushmaster ACR: $2,685–$3,061.00
Heckler & Koch HK416: $1425
SAR-21:$991 ( 1/3 of TAR-21 unit price )

it offers length of 805 mm (31.7 in) ( SAR 21 P-Rail) and Barrel length 508 mm (20.0 in)

 

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Here a video on bren cz805

 

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Actually cz805 was in competition to arm our special forces with new modylar rifles but lost to FN2000

 

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http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/5364/cz805bren02.jpg

 

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HERE'S FN 2000

Caliber: 5.56x45 mm NATO
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 694 mm
Barrel length: 400 mm
Weight: 3.6 kg empty, in standart configuration; 4.6 kg with 40mm grenade launcher
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds (any NATO / STANAG type magazines)
FN 2000 are also used by SPG Special Protection Group)

 

[LiberalAtheist]

Here is nice video on FN SCAR

can any one tell me what is the cost of this rifle.

i'd say over 1,000usd maybe over 2,000usd counting the attachments it has