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[arsalan shafique]

PAKISTAN TO GET 7 MISSILE GUIDED FRIGATES FROM USA.....NAVAL CHIEF....................NEWS ON TV CHANNELS!!!

 

[Penguin]

That would be on board a Chinese Type 054A.

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PAKISTAN TO GET 7 MISSILE GUIDED FRIGATES FROM USA.....NAVAL CHIEF....................NEWS ON TV CHANNELS!!!

With McInerney that makes 8 total? If so, that would equal the number of Brooke/Garcia class frigates PN leased from the US in the past.

 

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F22P#253 new pic

 

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[Speeder 2]

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Are those Super Nintendo Entertaiment Systems with twin joysticks?

 

[applesauce]

^^^ gr8!

Are those Super Nintendo Entertaiment Systems with twin joysticks?

PONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[farhan_9909]

Which one is better the f-22P or the american olivver class which we are getting for 68 million..?

 

[SeaToby]

Which one is better the f-22P or the american olivver class which we are getting for 68 million..?

While Pakistan will spend $68 million to get the ships with a hot transfer and refit, the US is actually paying the FMS funds, the $68 million... The former Oliver Hazard Perry class will effectively be free gifts from the US... All eight ships...

Some 75 ships of this class were built, many in the US and some in Taiwan, Australia, and Spain... Poland, Egypt, Turkey, and Bahrain also operate former US ships of this class...

While an SM-2 upgrade would be very nice to maintain their area air defense capability, a Searam missile upgrade to the CIWS gun mount would provide these ships a self defense short range anti air and anti missile capability..

 

[Penguin]

Which one is better the f-22P or the american olivver class which we are getting for 68 million..?

Better at what?

 

[MJaa]

Pakistan needs more F-22Ps, not Type 054A


Pakistan’s Navy is looking at expanding its F22P frigate fleet, either construct the exactly same F22P or improved variant of F22P.


Chief of Naval Staff of Pakistan, Admiral Noman Bashir told KLS that because of geographical factor, Pakistan needs more ships to cover the vast area.

“We need to expand F22P, whether we do exactly the same as F22P or we make some upgrade, make it even better. Because of the technology is changing every year, in order to keep it up to date, you have to keep upgrading what you have.”

Pakistan ordered four F22P frigates from China in 2005, the first three ships will be built in China while the last in Pakistan. The first F22P was delivered to Pakistan in mid 2009.

Apart from that, there are reports saying that procuring Chinese Type 054A Frigate is part of Pakistan Navy’s expansion program. Type 054A is a 4000+ ton missile frigate, installed with vertical launch missile launchers and advanced radar and fire control systems.

F22P frigate is an improved version of Chinese Type 053H3 frigate, its full load displacement is 3000+ton but without any vertical launch system.


“Type 054A is a bigger ship than F22P, but we may not acquire 054, but we need to upgrade F22P, to become closer to 054,” Admiral Noman Bashir said.


Type 054A XuZhou is installed with 32 cells vertical launcher system. XuZhou called on Port Klang in Dec 2009.He commented that Type 054A is a very successful ship for PLA Navy.


He said F22P can be modified to become closer to Type 054A, but not exactly like that. Pakistan Navy is discussing with Chinese counterparts about its future frigate upgrading program.

He added for the time being, Pakistan Navy is engaging with F22P program, only once they have finished it then goes to second.

“The fourth F22P will take about a year for construction, then we will talk about that.”


He not ruled out the possibility of naming the next generation frigate as F23P.

 

[farhan_9909]

Well it is good.

if we get the type 054 then we will nt get any experiance frm that

bt frm the upgraded f-22P i mean the f-23P we can get experiance
and even we can call it our indigenous frigate

 

[MJaa]

Well it is good.

if we get the type 054 then we will nt get any experiance frm that

bt frm the upgraded f-22P i mean the f-23P we can get experiance
and even we can call it our indigenous frigate

This will make some sense as we have already paid for the transfer of technology for F-22P and it seemed illogical to do so for just one ship. we have heard about this improved F-22P before and with VLS i think it would be able to fill some gap in airdefence for PN at low cost as this would still be a non Stealth Ship. This could be due to the high cost of Type 054 and lack of funds on our side.

In long term Type 054 is very important for PN as india is already buying form Russia and Producing locally the new line of Stealth Ships armed with Barak-2 MR SAM with 70km range developed specifically to handle the antiship missiles.While considering our options PN should also keep in mind that we will be facing best of the Russian Supersonic antiship missiles like indian painted YAKHONT aka BRAHMOS, 3M54E1 KLUB and western antiship missiles like Exocet and Harpoon therefore our future ships must be capable of handling these threats in war times.


Speaking of low cost, may be PN should look for local production of few Type 022 (Houbei Class) new-generation stealth missile fast attack craft armed with eight C-803 anti-ship missiles and Russian AK-630 30mm six-barrel CIWS for short-range air defence.

 

[farhan_9909]

This will make some sense as we have already paid for the transfer of technology for F-22P and it seemed illogical to do so for just one ship. we have heard about this improved F-22P before and with VLS i think it would be able to fill some gap in airdefence for PN at low cost as this would still be a non Stealth Ship. This could be due to the high cost of Type 054 and lack of funds on our side.

In long term Type 054 is very important for PN as india is already buying form Russia and Producing locally the new line of Stealth Ships armed with Barak-2 MR SAM with 70km range developed specifically to handle the antiship missiles.While considering our options PN should also keep in mind that we will be facing best of the Russian Supersonic antiship missiles like indian painted YAKHONT aka BRAHMOS, 3M54E1 KLUB and western antiship missiles like Exocet and Harpoon therefore our future ships must be capable of handling these threats in war times.


Speaking of low cost, may be PN should look for local production of few Type 022 (Houbei Class) new-generation stealth missile fast attack craft armed with eight C-803 anti-ship missiles and Russian AK-630 30mm six-barrel CIWS for short-range air defence.

i dnt think so f-22P cant be stealth frigate if we upgrade it.
like thos frigate which is considered one of the best stealth featured frigate in the world
La Fayette class frigate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and weight little more then F22P

if we add the type 54 stealth features to f22P then i am sure they will be as deadly as the large large stealth frigate are.