Exclusive: Responding to a dangerous time

[T-Rex]

Desperation about what? LDC sweatshop coolies threatening us ?

It's clear you don't have any argument other than irrelevant rants.

 

[gslv mk3]

It means cowardly indians are going for what they are good at and that means more terrorism inside Pakistan.

Anything that floats your 'nauka'

It's clear you don't have any argument other than irrelevant rants.

And you're rants are very much relevant indeed.

 

[T-Rex]

If we learn from history, usually people from Bangladesh pour into India in large numbers if anything goes wrong there (1971). Keeping in that mind global warming is a real issue, we have to keep a contingency plan at hand. After all, since modern Jamatis don't appreciate what India did for them in 1971, I won't be wiling to see one as my neighbor in India, if anything goes wrong in Bangladesh. Better to place Bengali Jamatis with insurgent Kashmiris, since you share so much solidarity and common opinion amongst each other!

Irrelevant rants! Post reported! @WAJsal

Anything that floats your 'nauka'



And you're rants are very much relevant indeed.

You can bet it is!

 

[Fireurimagination]

Nope, the RSS leader was never sincere in his attempts to have peace, it's just propaganda without any substance. The on going genocide in Kashmir committed by the indian troops is the best testament to this bloody fact.

By peace we mean end of the proxy war by Pakistan and happily ever after but not to be, it's clear talks, incentives etc won't help, it's a low intensity war and it will have to be treated like one

It means cowardly indians are going for what they are good at and that means more terrorism inside Pakistan.

As a matter of fact Indians aren't very good and experienced at the whole proxy war business, the narrative here is Pakistan itself has so much terror that India need not do anything, but this will change India will learn fast and be aggressive, you can see the change in stance with respect to Baluchistan etc

The gloves were off anyway ever since Pakistan came into existence, don't you think so? So, I don't think Pakistanis are going to be intimidated by this talk. Your cowardly leader needs to order a military strike inside Pakistan in order to see for yourself if Pakistan is really afraid of india or india is afraid of Pakistan. So tell your terrorist leader to make it clear to the world, we're eagerly waiting. Silence or delay will convey the message that india is afraid of Pakistan.

India will strike (if it had too) at a time and place of it's choosing, remember when India formed your country it waited 9 months for the opportune moment. India has the luxury of choosing when, how, where, why and what to target. As we speak PAF pilots are sitting in cockpits anticipating Indian strikes

 

[IndusisHindu]

Irrelevant rants! Post reported! @WAJsal

Being a Bangladeshi what business you have regarding Kashmir? According to the Shimla accord of 1971, Kashmir is a bilateral issue between India and Pakistan....

 

[Musafir117]

Pakistan should tackle right wing hindu nationlist RSS government with iron fist......Give them what they are asking for.....A WAR, A BRUTAL ONE.....

I think Indians want to play this gamble just to stop CPEC.....Rest is all hogwash....They are trying to portray to world and China that look, Pakistan is not safe for any investment - let alone hub of regional trade...

Pakistan should increase the cost of war for India....highly risky and dead dangerous....

That what I am telling Indian here from long time that Modi Govt lead India to a blood bath BJP is exterme right wing Hindu party violence are in their blood and we are ready to teach a bloody lesson to them and India deserve it to chose that mental in govt.

 

[T-Rex]

By peace we mean end of the proxy war by Pakistan and happily ever after but not to be, it's clear talks, incentives etc won't help, it's a low intensity war and it will have to be treated like one

If india did not consider it as a war it would not have 800,000 soldiers in Kashmir! So please skip your drama, we're tired of it.

As a matter of fact Indians aren't very good and experienced at the whole proxy war business,

India is as experienced as it can be in this art of terrorism but not as good as the CIA or Mossad goons. The RAW agent who got caught red handed proves that.

India will strike (if it had too) at a time and place of it's choosing, remember when India formed your country it waited 9 months for the opportune moment. India has the luxury of choosing how, where, why and what to target

As I said failure to act or any delay means only one thing and that is you guys are scared to death. You indians don't have the balls to walk the talk as far as Kashmir or today's Pakistan is concerned.

Being a Bangladeshi what business you have regarding Kashmir? According to the Shimla accord of 1971, Kashmir is a bilateral issue between India and Pakistan....

It is a public forum not your terror dungeon, if you cannot take the heat get the hell out of here.

 

[Fireurimagination]

If india did not consider it as a war it would not have 800,000 soldiers in Kashmir! So please skip your drama, we're tired of it.

India till date thought it can tackle the problem defensively (it wiped away Kashmir insurgency 90% that way), through talks, though international pressure etc but now it understands to eradicate it 100% we will have to change tactics

India is as experienced as it can be in this art of terrorism but not as good as the CIA or Mossad goons. The RAW agent who got caught red handed proves that.

India doesn't breed or train proxies on it's soil, neither we have unlimited human resource of Jihadis like the neighbor, nor we have experience that Pakistan has in Afghanistan, but mind you we have deep pockets and we can learn fast

As I said failure to act or any delay means only one thing and that is you guys are scared to death. You indians don't have the balls to walk the talk as far as Kashmir or today's Pakistan is concerned.

LOL scared, says a person whose country was formed by India. As I said we will choose the time and place as per our convenience. We have no need to play Rambo and wither our advantages, we need to get our work done (defeat the proxy war) and we will

 

[IceCold]

India will strike (if it had too) at a time and place of it's choosing, remember when India formed your country it waited 9 months for the opportune moment. India has the luxury of choosing when, how, where, why and what to target. As we speak PAF pilots are sitting in cockpits anticipating Indian strikes

Unlike East Pakistan Bangladesh , Baluchistan is not separated by a hostile country from the rest of Pakistan. Moreover India does not have a direct border to connect o Baluchistan. Yes India will use Afghanistan soil for terrorism but it can only do it to an extent.
Also Baluchistan has already rejected Modi narrative unlike Bangladesh and Bangladeshis. But you are welcome to try. Baluchistan is the largest province of Pakistan by land, if Pakistan loses a large piece of land due to foreign aggression, that will automatically revoke a response of you know what. After that it will not matter who won the war.

 

[Mentee]

True... Islam flourished in India under the Sultanate and Mughals. Indians are proud of this heritage as can be seen through the shared cultural ties between all Indians. More Muslims live in India than in Pakistan or Bangladesh.....these places being mere regional outposts of the pre-British times... center of Pre-British rule was always Delhi... the capital of modern India.....

Rivers have no religion

 

[T-Rex]

India till date thought it can tackle the problem defensively (it wiped away Kashmir insurgency 90% that way), through talks, though international pressure etc but now it understands to eradicate it 100% we will have to change tactics

It's the other way round, the kashmiri people thought that reason would prevail over desire for dominance so they gave it a temporary break and you took it as your success in crushing insurgency. Now the Kashmiri people have realised their mistake and so they are showing what they are capable of.

India doesn't breed or train proxies on it's soil,

India does it in Baluchistan and all over Pakistan, india does it in all the neighbouring states including China.

ILOL scared, says a person whose country was formed by India. As I said we will choose the time and place as per our convenience. We have no need to play Rambo and wither our advantages, we need to get our work done (defeat the proxy war) and we will

We saw it from close quarter how scared our indian allies were behind us in 1971, so we know very well how brave you indians are. Anyway this is not the section for discussing what happened in 1971, so I will rather advise you to walk the talk because actions speak louder than words and so far we haven't seen any action from the brave indians.

 

[R Wing]

India till date thought it can tackle the problem defensively (it wiped away Kashmir insurgency 90% that way), through talks, though international pressure etc but now it understands to eradicate it 100% we will have to change tactics



India doesn't breed or train proxies on it's soil, neither we have unlimited human resource of Jihadis like the neighbor, nor we have experience that Pakistan has in Afghanistan, but mind you we have deep pockets and we can learn fast



LOL scared, says a person whose country was formed by India. As I said we will choose the time and place as per our convenience. We have no need to play Rambo and wither our advantages, we need to get our work done (defeat the proxy war) and we will

Who are you kidding? India's state sponsorship of terrorism is well-known (and has often used the "third country approach"). Let's not be naive --- almost all states engage in it in one way or another. But I get it --- you guys are trying very hard to paint Pakistan as the only state that sponsors terrorism in the otherwise scared and innocent world.

What you guys should worry about is a generation of angry and resentful youths who confront your pellet-gun wielding Occupation Soldiers with stones. A minority of those will decide to trade their stones for AKs. Illegal and inhumane occupations seldom last. Don't give Kashmir to Pakistan --- give the disputed region (which Balochistan is not, so don't draw that parallel) it's right to self-determination. Peace shall prevail.

 

[Fireurimagination]

It's the other way round, the kashmiri people thought that reason would prevail over desire for dominance so they gave it a temporary break and you took it as your success in crushing insurgency. Now the Kashmiri people have realised their mistake and so they are showing how they are capable of.

To a certain extent after 9/11 Pakistan came under pressure, add to that India has invested heavily to stop cross border infiltration major reasons why there are only 200 odd terrorists left in the valley

India does it in Baluchistan and all over Pakistan, india does it in all the neighbouring states including China.

Baluchistan is not Indian soil, neither we have any Pakistani terror group like TTP etc operating from Indian soil

We saw it from close quarter how scared our indian allies were behind us in 1971, so we know very well how brave you indians are. Anyway this is not the section for discussing what happened in 1971, so I will rather advise you to walk the talk because actions speak louder than words and so far we haven't seen any action from the brave indians.

47,65,71,99 we don't want a war but if we are left with no option then war be it but mind you it will be the last option. I believe there will be many options before that. eg: Scrape the IWT

Who are you kidding? India's state sponsorship of terrorism is well-known (and has often used the "third country approach"). Let's not be naive --- almost all states engage in it in one way or another. But I get it --- you guys are trying very hard to paint Pakistan as the only state that sponsors terrorism in the otherwise scared and innocent world.

What you guys should worry about is a generation of angry and resentful youths who confront your pellet-gun wielding Occupation Soldiers with stones. A minority of those will decide to trade their stones for AKs. Illegal and inhumane occupations seldom last. Don't give Kashmir to Pakistan --- give the disputed region (which Balochistan is not, so don't draw that parallel) it's right to self-determination. Peace shall prevail.

True, India may have been funding or helping terror groups covertly, but we are not very good at it. Now the time has come to do it overtly and aggressively

Unlike East Pakistan Bangladesh , Baluchistan is not separated by a hostile country from the rest of Pakistan. Moreover India does not have a direct border to connect o Baluchistan. Yes India will use Afghanistan soil for terrorism but it can only do it to an extent.
Also Baluchistan has already rejected Modi narrative unlike Bangladesh and Bangladeshis. But you are welcome to try. Baluchistan is the largest province of Pakistan by land, if Pakistan loses a large piece of land due to foreign aggression, that will automatically revoke a response of you know what. After that it will not matter who won the war.

I never said that Baluchistan is Bangladesh, the aim is not liberation of Baluchistan the aim is just payback when 18 of our soldiers are killed by Pakistani elements then we should have the capability to retaliate in the same coin in Baluchistan or elsewhere

 

[Darth Vader]

Just My Few Cents

1st If India wanted to start they war they should have started When there sidekick TTP was at peak ,whole Pakistani Nation and its forces were depressed For now that has passed

nation is backing Its forces while Country is showing sign of progress and alot of Chinese investment give Pakistan a new card because even with limited strikes India woudnt want to escalate to Full war or directly threat chinese investment because if china lets invade and conquer Pakistan it must say good bye to tibet and other areas too

Now majority's of talks specially on pdf are just about weapon system , they seems to forget few points its affects on soldier and able to withhold pressure
Indian perspective
In this India does have the numeric advantage able to deploy force and for some time indian forces trying To use QDF ( quick deployment force ) against Pakistan before Pakistan able to do anything against

Pakistani Perspective
I give few more point to Pakistan on these reasons
Pakistani Forces have been for than few decades have been part of gorilla warfare
Now Pakistan forces have been directly fighting a gorilla force and able to clean its majority lands
So in that sense Pakistani soldiers are more battle ready and better battle hardened than there counter parts they have better experience in fighting and countering gorilla warfare than Indian Force

1 point where IA CSD (cold start doctrine )seems flawed to me is this that majority of Pakistani Cities are close to Indian Borders main point of CSD to use heavy armour but neither indian forces have any history where they showed they were able to successfully use heavy armour in gorilla warfare , and problem with supplies
On the other Pakistani Forces need to just hold until the reinforcements come
If i apply logic Pakistani Forces will have upper hand in Land to land battle
Soldiers have experience
being close to border need less time to respond
For india to achieve its missions they need major Pakistani civilian supports which i don't see happening soon even if Pakistan loses few cities. They can make sure invading force is stuck in the cities being Pakistan having highest numbers of armed citizens

 

[IceCold]

I never said that Baluchistan is Bangladesh, the aim is not liberation of Baluchistan the aim is just payback when 18 of our soldiers are killed by Pakistani elements then we should have the capability to retaliate in the same coin in Baluchistan or elsewhere

You are already doing that and this new development changes nothing for Pakistan on the ground. Indian sponsored terrorism is not new to Pakistan. You want to up the ant be our guest.