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India, China are destined by geography to be rivals:Narayanan.
PTI
Melbourne, November 01, 2012
Last Updated: 16:08 IST(1/11/2012)


Underlining that India and China are to an extent destined by geography to be "rivals", West Bengal Governor and former National Security Advisor MK Narayanan on Thursday said Beijing's increasing assertiveness on its part while dealing with disputes is "most disconcerting".

He also said Chinese activities in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir and its "not-so-subtle wooing" of some of India's neighbours to New Delhi's detriment is a matter of concern.
Narayanan added that potential for a conflict also exists as competition between India and China for new energy sources intensify.

"To some extent, China and India are destined by geography to be rivals: neighbours with large populations, old civilisations, rich and venerable cultures, and disputes with regard to their borders," Narayanan, who is also a former chief of the Intelligence Bureau said in his keynote address at the annual Australia India Institute conference on India in Melbourne.

"The two countries are, nevertheless, far apart civilisationally and in their makeup," he said adding that "elected accountability in India is an important point of difference".

Addressing the large gathering, Narayanan said strategic rivalries were on the rise in Asian region.

Most analysts see the main rivalry in Asia as being between India and China though both countries disclaim the existence of such rivalry, he said.

Moreover, Chinese scholars appear unable to comprehend the true nature of India's ethnic, religious, ideological and economic makeup.

The strident claims made by Chinese academics and strategic thinkers for Chinese exceptionalism hardly helps, Narayanan, who was also involved in negotiations for resolving boundary disputes with China said.

He drew a stark contrast between the two Asian nations by stating that while the Chinese economy was assessed today as the second largest in the world with its GDP at USD 10 trillion and is still growing, India's economic performance has not been of the same order.

"What is, however, most disconcerting today – as China's economic muscle expands – is increasing assertiveness on its part while dealing with disputes, whether on land or sea," he said.

The West Bengal Governor said, "China's activities in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir are very troubling for India. Its not-so-subtle wooing of some of India's neighbours to India’s detriment is a cause of concern".

He said the strategic fallout of China's policy of building advantageous power relationships on India's periphery and beyond, is "forcing" India to sit up and take notice.

"Potential for a conflict also exists as competition between India and China for new energy sources intensifies, with China moving aggressively into West Asia and elsewhere", he added.

Both countries are, however, conscious of possible miscalculations.

Both are anxious to lower the threshold of concern, he said while noting that border remained quiet with several other structures in place for discussion and negotiations.

Narayanan also referred to perceived rivalry with Pakistan and said the challenge that India faced in dealing with Pakistan was very different from that it faces in its dealings with China.

"India's desire for improvement in relations stems from its belief that a friendly neighbourhood will enhance India's capacity for growth and fulfilment of many of its objectives," he said.

"India cannot possibly rest easy unless there is a distinct change in Pakistan's attitude. Pakistan possesses one of the world's biggest armies, one that is equipped with a rapidly growing nuclear arsenal," he said.

He pointed out that for years, Pakistan has employed asymmetric warfare as a strategic instrumentality to keep India off balance.

There does not, hence, appear to be any easy or quick solution to the prevailing standoff, but the search for a modus vivendi continues, he said.

India, China are destined by geography to be rivals: Narayanan - Hindustan Times
 
Status-quoist habit has always remain the bane for indians.If indians wont reclaim their rightful geography then geography will extract its revenge from indians as always.
Again, same old statements with no relevance. Kindly explain in detail. :D
 
Again, same old statements with no relevance. Kindly explain in detail. :D
Sometime old statements need to be repeated to drill them into the sleeping brains.
look at your past history you will get the answer.Which ever emipire became status quoist it was erased from the subcontinent.
 
Sometime old statements need to be repeated to drill them into the sleeping brains.
look at your past history you will get the answer.Which ever emipire became status quoist it was erased from the subcontinent.

History had hundreds of smaller kingdoms possible to be empowered or defeated - this status quo power keeps the status quo till the point the opposition breaks.
 
Sometime old statements need to be repeated to drill them into the sleeping brains.
look at your past history you will get the answer.Which ever emipire became status quoist it was erased from the subcontinent.
You still think we are living in the times of Empire ? Well goodluck with that.
 
History had hundreds of smaller kingdoms possible to be empowered or defeated - this status quo power keeps the status quo till the point the opposition breaks.
Or the smaller power co-operate to bring down the bigger one.

You still think we are living in the times of Empire ? Well goodluck with that.
If you think you are not living in same geography then goodluck you with that.
 
Or the smaller power co-operate to bring down the bigger one.

If you think you are not living in same geography then goodluck you with that.

In your wet dreams, we know how to bring that down too....the problem with you lot is you overestimate yourself a bit much and underestimate us too much.
 
Once india splits into many pieces then we can have peace but Pakistan must dominate the whole north india hindi belt.

You seem to have forgotten the lesson Japanese taught you a few years back... people like you make the Japanese actions look righteous.

Last time, USA saved your from the Japs .... whom are you relying on now, when Japan-India-USA are together.

Russia? Check out, if the Russians are really with you or not.. :tup:
 
Once india splits into many pieces then we can have peace but Pakistan must dominate the whole north india hindi belt.

And Mars, Pluto and Hades as well................................
SinoChallenged must make his usual bravura appearance. :rofl:
 
Once india splits into many pieces then we can have peace but Pakistan must dominate the whole north india hindi belt.
Back again Sino?? ( I seem to have lost count of the times I have posted this)
Man you must be creating a record for being banned the most times............that would explain your affinity to talking nonsense again and again.............:lol:
On Topic: We can be friends as individuals, but unfortunately our societies are too different ideologically to ever be friendly.........Even the Pakistanis are only friends with China out of necessity, otherwise I don't think Pakistanis and Chinese have anything in common except for the common opponent, that is India
 
You seem to have forgotten the lesson Japanese taught you a few years back... people like you make the Japanese actions look righteous.

Last time, USA saved your from the Japs .... whom are you relying on now, when Japan-India-USA are together.

Russia? Check out, if the Russians are really with you or not.. :tup:

What japan did to china is peanut compared to what britian did to india, yes usa may have saved us from the japs , but no one saves india from the brits why? :yahoo:Russia not really with you either so dont make a fool of yourself here
 
Status-quoist habit has always remain the bane for indians.If indians wont reclaim their rightful geography then geography will extract its revenge from indians as always.

Something like that goes for history as well. It is for those who distort history.

Once india splits into many pieces then we can have peace but Pakistan must dominate the whole north india hindi belt.

Seems like you enjoy being made fun of.
 
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