i never want to get down to this but then you compeled me to kick you more...
A refreshing post of knowledge in a thread full of ignorance.
Yes ofcourse any post that would kick your grions would be termed as ingorant, that's nothing new, so let's carry on.
A similar agency was KhAD as well (Khadamat-e Etela'at-e Dawlati or State Information Agency ). Its just an acronym for God's sake.
Yes that's what it was supposed to do, for God's sake!! It is just an acrynym (RAM) and Jana connected it to the religion just for the sake of it but you were such a fanatic that instead of asking how would the acronym connect the indians with the agency so started asking me to teach you hinduism, that is what i call trolling which you are quite guud at. It was you you asked what the hell do i know about hindusim and how hinduism is connected to hypocrisy. And my answer was simple, i posted a 'few' hypocritical points in your religion but your so dumb that you instead of arguing about the points themselvs and counter them you stupidly connected them with the fringing agency!!! You just missed the fact that Jana just linked the name of the agency with the indians for the sake of it (though i am not denying the fact that the connection would be there).
If some police department uses a battering ram to break open a door, will that indicate an Indian connection?
Again and idiotic point. Why cant you argue about the point under discussion? Why you have to bring in a fallacy to support your points? Why cant you simply ask how did Jana connected Ram with india?
Even if there was some co operation going on between NDS (or RAM) and India, saying that your "proof" is Ram is revered as a god in Hinduism would be surefire to make you a laughing stock in any international forum. So my suggestion is to present some other proof that this.
Again, it is you who are making a lughing stock of yourself!!
How said that it is fringing 'PROOF' to connect Ram with india, this is why i doudbed you intellect earlier. It was joke and a witty response by Jana and one another poster who said RAMA=raw and many afghans, but your brain was unable to comprehend it as usual!!
Ok, what does having 'millions of gods' have to do with 'Hindu ideology' as it relates to the topic. i.e, how exactly does having more than one god relate to the Afghan intelligence agency's actions against Pakistan? (also, they're all the same god AFAIK)
See another instance of stupidity!
i replied you regarding your question where you asked me to prove the hypocrisy in hinduism but then you have the cheeks to change your statement openly!! i reply you for your question and you connect it with Afghanistan, Bravo!!
What does seeking wealth have to do with the Afghan intelligence agency? do Muslims not seek wealth? so I take it that all Hindus seek wealth with a fervent 'madness' and you poor, pious Muslims want none of it? Noble indeed. Do tell the Saudis to give us their oil for free.
So again you have failed to understand what i have said or may be you are doing it delibherately i.e. trolling.
What acquiring wealth has to do with Afghansitan? The answer is nothing! But why would you connect the two things? The acquiring wealth and the contradicting teaching in your religion which says that wealth is bad was the point that i gave, but how on earth did you managed to connect it to Afghanistan?????
Intellect problem, may be?
The celibacy 'thingy' is a choice. Can you tell me exactly where sex is said to be a form of worship, I'm not saying that it couldn't be, but I'd like to see where it says so. Kindly provide a link or two. And what does this have to do with RAAM?
Let me shut you for once and all:
Sex and Hinduism
Hindu Purusharthas:
Purusharthas means objectives of a human being. They are the canonical four ends or aims of human life. They serve as pointers in the life. The four Purusharthas from lowest to highest-
? Kama - pleasure or desire3
? Artha - wealth
? Dharma - righteousness or morality
? Moksha - liberation from the cycle of reincarnation
According to Kama Sutra, "IN the beginning, the Lord of Beings created men and women, and in the form of commandments in one hundred thousand chapters laid down rules for regulating their existence with regard to Dharma, Artha, and Kama." 4 Further it says- "MAN, the period of whose life is one hundred years, should practise Dharma, Artha and Kama at different times and in such a manner that they may harmonize together and not clash in any way. He should acquire learning in his childhood, in his youth and middle age he should attend to Artha and Kama, and in his old age he should perform Dharma, and thus seek to gain Moksha, i.e. release from further transmigration.."5
So, according to Hindu scheme of thing, even though Enlightment is the ultimate goal of life, it encourages people to enjoy everything and fulfill all material desires. Moksha is a long process. It can be achieved only when all material desires are quenched. And hence, Hindu religion prescribes 2 methods, the path of renounciates, the path of householder. There is one more less popular but more maligned path of within "Tantras" which accept everything material, everything condemned as taboo and hence aims to rise above the animalistic desires.
Sex as Yajna:
Yajna or sacrifice is derived from root word "Yaj". It means Worship or offering an oblation.
Max Muller defines Yajna is an act by which we surrender something for the sake of gods"6.
Sex is worship. It is an act by which the couples surrender their ego, in order to gain pleasure, progeny, eventually even enlightment.
"Her lap is a sacrificial altar; her hairs, the sacrificial grass; her skin, the soma-press. The two labia of the vulva are the fire in the middle. Verily, indeed, as great as is the world of him who sacrifices with the Vâjapeya ("Strength-libation") sacrifice, so great is the world of him who practises sexual intercourse"7 (Brhad-Âranyaka Upanisad)
These verses clearly shows that, sex was treated as a form of worship, an act to not only fulfill one"s desires and gain pleasures, but also as an act of sacredness.
Sex as Meditation:
In Vigyana Bhairava Tantra8, during a conversation between Shiva and Shakti,.....
Now dont you dare ask me to argue more about this thing, as you have already showed you true worth and f*ked the thread thoroughly, if you have the guts open a new thread and i'll kick you there.
The Quran teaches you that killing innocents is Haram, yet some of you blow $hit up on a daily basis, kill children, behead journalists, hijack planes, shoot up hotels. Now contrast this with evil Hindus promoting the consumption of meat in the name of liberalism. Also tell me how this relates to the Afghan intelligence agency.
Yes, you tell me how this relates to the Afghan intelligence agency??
That's what i am wondering...how did you come up with this idea that i am connecting it the agency?
Chanakya wasn't a Rishi, or a saint, he was a dude back in the day. What does this have to do with Hinduism? By the same measure, the shadow of Osama, looms large over Islam, should I list all the atrocities committed by Al-Qaeda and attribute them to your entire religion?
Again, it shows your shallow level of understanding, you are connecting the dots as if they are to make a picture in the end, but actually you are making new dots as you like and just connecting them as per your wishes. Strange mentality!
The Arthshastra isn't part of Hinduism. But since you quoted Indira Gandhi, should I quote Osama, or the millions of other Muslims in the world that cried 'Allah hu Akbar' when the twin towers fell? And yes, I myself saw a crowd of 50 Palestinians, Lebanese, Iranians go bezerk with happiness and chant 'Allah hu Akbar'. I think its safe to say they weren't the only ones.
BS! Explained it earlier.
So does this mean Islam is a hypocritical and violent religion?
Now we are talking.
That was the first question that you should have asked in response to my post, but then this merits a new thread, we'll do it there.
And you never answered my question, how does this 'Hindu ideology' relate to the Afghan intelligence agency.
Again, dumb head, i never said that the 'HINDU ideology' related to the fringing agency. Dont feed me BS! You dont even know what are you talking about!! Did you read this:
Hey did someone read this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by xeric View Post
Ok, if someone is bringing in the Hindu thingy in this thread, what's wrong with it? i mean let's keep the religion aside but the ideology stays!
And they have the guts to call me a flame!
i shunted out the RELIGION factor out of the thread/discussion on my 23rd post on this thread, but then you are such a loser that you again and again bring the religion inside the thread and then accuse me of spewing hatred? Intellect i mean, really do wonders, grow up!!
Because the name bears resemblance to a Hindu god, you geniuses have deduced that there is an evil Hindu hand behind the agency.
Yes that was said but that was sarcasm, which you obviously missed!! Intellect, may be?
Is there a Pakistani hand behind the PAK-FA program?
Is this the evil Hindu ideology you were talking about by the way? This is the ideology behind the Afghan intelligence agency's actions/motivations?
There are contradictions and Hindu hypocrites, therefore, it has to be a Hindu ideology behind the Afghan intelligence. I knew it.
From the looks of it, Islam seems to be a lot more hypocritical, maybe because Afghans are Muslim, and there are Muslim hypocrites, and contradictions in Islam, there's an Islamic ideology behind the agency's actions. With your logic, it should make complete sense, right?
A classical instance of whining, ranting and talking off topic, you really are dumb.
So in crux this is what i have to say:
Jana and Khalids' witty response was taken by you geniuses as a PROOF of indian involvement in the agency (which might be true as the truth comes out unintentionally which did in this case when you all blasted your way in this thread)
i tried to hammer in your brains that religion may be taken out but the fact that there is an indian hand is behind the agency has to stay in the scope of the discussions to come, to this you dumb headedly said that, rather accused me of connecting the 'hindu ideology' with the agency, (how on earth did you come up with this?? Can you quote a single post where i used the word hindu and ideology together??
i did say that there is hypocrisy in hinduism and i stay by it and can prove it! To this you asked me to prove it which i did by posting post number 53. But unfortunately instead of countering the arguments made in that post you naively connected it with the agency, how classical!! Intellect showers on you.
Now when i tried to get out of the stupid discussion, you and another alike continuously flame baited so that i can again argue with you, this was to the extent that i replied to two posts (# 61 and 65 to Develpero and Nitrogen) which had no connection to the discussion between us, but you still stupidly jumped in the discussion and asked me to define hindu ideology (which was not at all the topic of discussion between me Develpreo and Nitrogen). This shows the extent to which you people can go down to level of pulling legs of other and suck them into stupid discussions.
Now i have answered your stupid queries and expect that you would not raise any more (stupid) questions, as for the hindu ideology which you are so anxious to discuss, open up a thread and i can assure you to do justice with it, though at the expense of my time!!
Hats off to you. Really.
Therefore hats off to you really!!
