Ex CIA officer on IAF strike on NLI's Munto Dhalo Depot.

[ravi gupta]

Do you know how stupid you sound making equally foolish claims.

Yaa,i know you will come out with this,i was expecting this personal comment when you have no arguments.
Enjoy your weekends.

 

[Alpha Fighter]

If IAF seriously took out 300 militants in one strike, why not release the photos? If 300 militants were killed in one spot certainly they would take a photo and publish it, and a 300 kill on ground would be unmistakable. The pictures in the beginning show blurry pictures and indicate camp sites, that's it...

Well not militants, PAK NL soldiers. What the use of published Pic of Burnt and uncharted bodies? Most of even bodies converted into ashes same time.

pic taken from High Altitude, before and after bombing by the plane. After bombing Indian military goes beyond that mountain to next target.

Seriously if there was a 300 in one strike, which I thought was the stuff of Bollywood, if this were true PAF would have been dispatched immediately and this war would have gone to the next level with bombing raids on Indian positions in Kashmir. This information is just an exaggeration. Fudged up numbers to make it look more impressive.

If this author wrote 3,000 in one strike Indians would believe that too, irrespective of the fact of there probably weren't that many militants involved and besides they wouldn't concentrate that many in numbers in one spot.

Well its 300 numbers, Well Entire PA NLI involved in the entire operation. regarding PAF , they don't have plane to fly , Don't have BVR's and also F-16 is useless due to sanctions.

PAK also did Kargil -II, in Aug 2002. IAF used Mirages for bombing PAK position in Machhal (or Macchil)


In a press conference on 23rd August 2002, PA public relations officer Major General Rashid Quereshi, alleged that the IAF had attacked forward Pakistani posts in Gultari area in support of the Indian Army on night of 22nd/23rd. It was claimed that the PA had retaliated in defence leading to death of Indian troops. The Indian Army completely denied the whole affair and furnished that no casualties had occurred in that timeframe.

India lost around 11 soldiers, PAK lost around 30 Soldiers. Actual battle taken in of Point 3260, which is 1800 meters East of Loonda post.”

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Well.... u might be right ,

A) India has very Large Land Mass.

And that will somehow confuse a few dozen missiles with high yield warheads.

B) Its not possible to launch 100 Nukes missile at same for PAK without getting detected

30 would do much more than expected ..

Try ALCMs,SLCMs,BMs ..

C) With S-300 present, Expecting more then 50% missiles will be destroyed.

India doesn't have S-300.

And nor can it somehow magically destroy 50% missiles .. Nor can it differentiate between conventional rocket/missile barrage and nuke armed ones... Even

If PAK launch , 2-3 nukes in big indian cities? then , PAK wont get a 2nd chanc .

And why would Pak only nuke just 2-3 cities ?

If PAK launch 100+ missiles, Most possibility these missiles get destroyed in middle , thus saving Chennai / Kolkatta ( South and East India) .

Indian Retaliation , would be New man made desert.

Nuclear scientists,think tanks present a doomsday scenario where a nuclear exchange will make the entire region a nuclear wasteland .. Your own convincing yourself that you will survive to tell the tale.

Well not militants, PAK NL soldiers. What the use of published Pic of Burnt and uncharted bodies? Most of even bodies converted into ashes same time.

pic taken from High Altitude, before and after bombing by the plane. After bombing Indian military goes beyond that mountain to next target.


Well its 300 numbers, Well Entire PA NLI involved in the entire operation. regarding PAF , they don't have plane to fly , Don't have BVR's and also F-16 is useless due to sanctions.

PAK also did Kargil -II, in Aug 2002. IAF used Mirages for bombing PAK position in Machhal (or Macchil)


In a press conference on 23rd August 2002, PA public relations officer Major General Rashid Quereshi, alleged that the IAF had attacked forward Pakistani posts in Gultari area in support of the Indian Army on night of 22nd/23rd. It was claimed that the PA had retaliated in defence leading to death of Indian troops. The Indian Army completely denied the whole affair and furnished that no casualties had occurred in that timeframe.

India lost around 11 soldiers, PAK lost around 30 Soldiers. Actual battle taken in of Point 3260, which is 1800 meters East of Loonda post.”

Again busted .. Here is a US military research on the conflict ;

https://defence.pk/threads/kargil-w...on-high-altitude-warfare.424823/#post-8208793

Not much to jump in joy for india.. When 10 guys inflict massive casualties on 3 Indian regiments for months .. Despite being ill equipped,lightly armed,unacclimatised and without logistic supply.

 

[cerberus]

India doesn't have S-300.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300VM

In 1995 India Procured six batteries of Russian S-300VM System For Western Air Command, IAF

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300VM

In 1995 India Procured six batteries of Russian S-300VM System For Western Air Command, IAF

That's a Styx mobile launcher ...


The S-300 was offered by Russia in 2004 but not bought ...


This credibility of this pic has been busted several times by even your own members and even on Indian forums ...

Even a layman can differentiate between a s-300 (with different tube styled launchers) and a soviet made Styx coastal defence missile

https://defence.pk/threads/s-300pmu-2-command-post-spotted-moving-over-worli-sea-face.54714/


Styx missile launcher;

S-300 & radar;

 

[cerberus]

Again busted .. Here is a US military research on the conflict ;

https://defence.pk/threads/kargil-wa...on-high-altitude-warfare.424823/#post-8208793

Not much to jump in joy for india.. When 10 guys inflict massive casualties on 3 Indian regiments for months .. Despite being ill equipped,lightly armed,unacclimatised and without logistic supply.

Massive Causalities only 527 killed Against over 700+ Casualties of Pakistan

The Equipment that recovered are 80/102 MM Motars, Heavy Anti Aircraft Machine guns ,Grenade lauchers,More than 8,000 anti-personnel mines according to according to an ICBL report
RPG What Do you Aspect Armored Division on 17,411 ft of Tiger Hill

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Massive Causalities only 527 killed Against over 700+ Casualties of Pakistan

The Equipment that recovered are 80/102 MM Motars, Heavy Anti Aircraft Machine guns ,Grenade lauchers,More than 8,000 anti-personnel mines according to according to an ICBL report
RPG What Do you Aspect Armored Division on 17,411 ft of Tiger Hill

Again nonsense .. Read the US MILITARY REPORT!

Pak casualties = 457

Total strength = 1700

 

[cerberus]

The S-300 was offered by Russia in 2004 but not bought ...

Source

Where it Said that It was Not Bought From Russia Do you Have Source
Arrow was Rejected due to American pressure Green Pine Radar was Taken

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Source

Do I need to spoon feed you?

Your Styx-300

https://defence.pk/threads/ex-cia-o...-munto-dhalo-depot.208907/page-7#post-8341604

 

[cerberus]

Again nonsense .. Read the US MILITARY REPORT!

Pak casualties = 457

Total strength = 1700

457 is Official Causalities Remember this figure was issued by Mushy Govt No one is Buy it Including you DG ISI of that time

Figure Which Even you Experts Don't Believe Like Subject Of this thread

IAF Strike on NLI's Munto Dhalo Depot.Cause more than 200 causalities

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

457 is Official Causalities Remember this figure was issued by Mushy Govt No one is Buy it Including you DG ISI of that time

Figure Which Even you Experts Don't Believe Like Subject Of this thread

Who? Lol.. We are supposed to believe Nawaz sharif the asshole and his 4000? When not even more than 1700 guys were fighting in the conflict against entire Indian divisions & airpower?


Do you also question the US military report ?

IAF Strike on NLI's Munto Dhalo Depot.Cause more than 200 causalities

Yeah right... 200 imaginary troops guarding a "depot".

 

[cerberus]

Do I need to spoon feed you?

Your Styx-300

https://defence.pk/threads/ex-cia-of...-munto-dhalo-depot.208907/page-7#post-8341604

For that matter Let Me Educate you india Operates S-300 Pmu Long back
For that Matter I Even Tell you where it Deployed in Delhi

Airforce Station, Tughlakabad, New Delhi,

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

For that matter Let Me Educate you india Operates S-300 Pmu Long back
For that Matter I Even Tell you where it Deployed in Delhi

Airforce Station, Tughlakabad, New Delhi,

And Pakistan operates F-22 .. They are stationed at the underground shorkot AB.

 

[cerberus]

Yeah right... 200 imaginary troops guarding a "depot".

Really how It Even Was 472 Causalities of Pakistani Soliders When the Kargil Height Was Captured By Kashmiri Mujahideens as claimed by you establishment

Should I Pull out History of Propaganda by ISPR in wars Against India

And Pakistan operates F-22 .. They are stationed at the underground shorkot AB.

F-22 are Not For Import For that Matter
But I Know Chinese M-11 Missiles are Known as Shaheen For Sure

S-300 was Never Rejected Only Missile that was not Available For Export were Arrow-2 Due American intervention Show me Source where S-300 was Rejected By India

 

[Alpha Fighter]

And that will somehow confuse a few dozen missiles with high yield warheads.

30 would do much more than expected ..

Try ALCMs,SLCMs,BMs ..

India doesn't have S-300.

India has S300
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_(missile)
http://thediplomat.com/2013/08/indias-missile-defense-is-the-game-worth-the-candle/

PAK don't have much launchers to launch missiles to launch all missiles in one go.

And nor can it somehow magically destroy 50% missiles .. Nor can it differentiate between conventional rocket/missile barrage and nuke armed ones... Even

PAK don't have 100 launchers ..... so it cannot launch much missiles

S-300 , coupled with Indian SAM's capable to take down missiles.

And why would Pak only nuke just 2-3 cities ?

If PAK move of too many launchers in one go , it will detected and destroyed even before you can point in sky.

Nuclear scientists, think tanks present a doomsday scenario where a nuclear exchange will make the entire region a nuclear wasteland .. Your own convincing yourself that you will survive to tell the tale.

Well PAK scientist can say anything to convince PAK,
A) we have strong Army but we use Nuke, if India cross Line . Why? If you have strong army why you need to Nukes, cant you strong army stop India on line? If not then why use word Strong army ? lol

Again busted .. Here is a US military research on the conflict ;

https://defence.pk/threads/kargil-w...on-high-altitude-warfare.424823/#post-8208793

Not much to jump in joy for India.. When 10 guys inflict massive casualties on 3 Indian regiments for months .. Despite being ill equipped,lightly armed,unacclimatised and without logistic supply.

Your Army didn't dare to release the Kargil report , why? because they truth will come out, which you cant face it.

Yes sitting on the top and firing is easy, Still Indian Army taken it.

The same can be said , when Reguler Indian solders shoot ( World No 1 ), SSG of PAK , 5-10 Indian soidlers killed more then 100 SSG's., How about that in Siachin ?????

Again nonsense .. Read the US MILITARY REPORT!

Pak casualties = 457

Total strength = 1700

Why you Pak Army hiding your own report?

Again busted .. Here is a US military research on the conflict ;

https://defence.pk/threads/kargil-w...on-high-altitude-warfare.424823/#post-8208793

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Where is the US research paper ???