Evolution : Are we gona go extinct as the prophesies

[kobiraaz]

Wonder why your God then took away all the gift he gave you and gave it to christians? Why did he make them smarter, more prosperous and powerful when they don't even believe in your God?

I think you know about the Camel piss medicine written in your holy book.

this is because we do not follow the teaching of Muhammad (Pbuh ) . . There are no more islamic states. . . We are divided. . Killing ourselves. . .. . And this is prophesy made by the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) . . According to him these are the signs of Judgement day!! So to the thread starter i personally believe in all the prophesies. . . And hoping for the black flag army. . . . .!!

 

[EastWest]

this is not the appropriate forum to debate on religion. . If you want.. there are lots of islamic scholars waiting for you in India to debate. . Go to them. . Islamphobia is on rise. True. . But the same time people converting to Islam in western countries are also rising . . . .

people converting to and leaving Islam is also rising..but unfortunately those who leave are wajib-ul-qatl..and the reason no. of muslims are increasing is simple..u guys have no family planning..each family one or two cricket teams within them..and then u guys will blame the government for not taking care of them...

 

[jayron]

this is because we do not follow the teaching of Muhammad (Pbuh ) . . There are no more islamic states. . . We are divided. . Killing ourselves. . .. . And this is prophesy made by the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) . . According to him these are the signs of Judgement day!! So to the thread starter i personally believe in all the prophesies. . . And hoping for the black flag army. . . . .!!

if all muslims states join together, the western would would still be much more prosperous, powerful and and innovative. The only muslims who are smart are those who are not religious. The course the islam is taking now has made thinking impossible which is necessary for innovation.

 

[EastWest]

this is because we do not follow the teaching of Muhammad (Pbuh ) . . There are no more islamic states. . . We are divided. . Killing ourselves. . .. . And this is prophesy made by the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) . . According to him these are the signs of Judgement day!! So to the thread starter i personally believe in all the prophesies. . . And hoping for the black flag army. . . . .!!

lol!!! the reason u lost all those wars because u could not keep up with the technological advances of west....u guys didnt have a simple understanding of how to run a country or a state..even now u dont know that...A religion does not make a state..it is the people in them which makes one..the day when states/rulers start giving more credence to a book/ideology rather than welfare of people..the downfall of that state will begin...

This is not only applicable to Old Islamic countries..but also erstwhile USSR...

 

[kobiraaz]

people converting to and leaving Islam is also rising..but unfortunately those who leave are wajib-ul-qatl..and the reason no. of muslims are increasing is simple..u guys have no family planning..each family one or two cricket teams within them..and then u guys will blame the government for not taking care of them...

man, i said convertion to islam. . What is the relation of family planning with it??

 

[kobiraaz]

if all muslims states join together, the western would would still be much more prosperous, powerful and and innovative. The only muslims who are smart are those who are not religious. The course the islam is taking now has made thinking impossible which is necessary for innovation.

what is the definition of smartness to U??? BlackJACK?? Free sex culture?? Mini Scarts?? Chewing gum??

 

[EastWest]

what is the definition of smartness to U??? BlackJACK?? Free sex culture?? Mini Scarts?? Chewing gum??

1)freedom of choice...
2)No Taxes on the basis of religion
3)equal voting rights...a voice in running the nation irrespective of my faith/my creed..
4)The state not deciding my personal life..

 

[kobiraaz]

lol!!! the reason u lost all those wars because u could not keep up with the technological advances of west....u guys didnt have a simple understanding of how to run a country or a state..even now u dont know that...A religion does not make a state..it is the people in them which makes one..the day when states/rulers start giving more credence to a book/ideology rather than welfare of people..the downfall of that state will begin...

This is not only applicable to Old Islamic countries..but also erstwhile USSR...

scientifical studies started by muslims. . Chemical , medical, geographical. . . Have some study on An Nafis, Ibne Sina, Khawrizmi, Zabir ibn hyan! West borrowed it after that. . And yes now they are advanced. . . Do you know how?? Using the richness of India. . They managed a revolution in europe!! How funny!! And man, we lost in spain not because of their technology. . . .becaure we were divided. . .

 

[indianpatriot]

1)freedom of choice...
2)No Taxes on the basis of religion
3)equal voting rights...a voice in running the nation irrespective of my faith/my creed..
4)The state not deciding my personal life..

no use to tell them all these things...SHariah has made provisions to counter every argument from a scientific mind that questions in..the last answer answer obviously is..DEATH.

 

[Spring Onion]

dont beleive these prophesies......Only a fool trusts these things

i think you must not believe in incarnations and such theories too as its also being foolish

 

[Splurgenxs]

No one truly educated can actually believe in god. Not questioning ur belief and living in Ignorance is another matter.
I hate to generalize all of this but the Fact remains Religions is a doctrine and a means to control the masses. Just like an Army personnel is indoctrinated to follow the code ,its the same with all religion ... When something is repeated over and over again into an Individual's Psyche they actually start to believe in it existence(Sigmund Freud). The next step of social evolution is Atheism, and most of the new generation of educated Indians are already in some sense Atheists to some extent.

 

[tallboy123]

i think you must not believe in incarnations and such theories too as its also being foolish

Don't misunderstand girl!!!!

i said,i don't beleive in these judgement day prophesies and end of a religion....as the thread is talking about judgement day prophesies ......

these prophesies and incarnation has no link!!!..

 

[kobiraaz]

No one truly educated can actually believe in god. Not questioning ur belief and living in Ignorance is another matter.
I hate to generalize all of this but the Fact remains Religions is a doctrine and a means to control the masses. Just like an Army personnel is indoctrinated to follow the code ,its the same with all religion ... When something is repeated over and over again into an Individual's Psyche they actually start to believe in it existence(Sigmund Freud). The next step of social evolution is Atheism, and most of the new generation of educated Indians are already in some sense Atheists to some extent.

which part of your education told you there is no God??? Yes i agree to your last part of the post. . Most of my hindu friends are now atheist. . They just call themselves hindu because of family bonds. . . . You certainly know the answer! Polytheism has lost its credibility. . And now they are confused. . .

 

[LeGenD]

Give me a solid proof that GOD exists...I don't believe books written in caves or scriptures memorized by some proto-humans that too thousands of years ago when it was easy to fool people by making stories.

Keep in mind that more is unknown then known about the universe of which we are a tiny part of.

As an example:

In the early 1990's, one thing was fairly certain about the expansion of the Universe. It might have enough energy density to stop its expansion and recollapse, it might have so little energy density that it would never stop expanding, but gravity was certain to slow the expansion as time went on. Granted, the slowing had not been observed, but, theoretically, the Universe had to slow. The Universe is full of matter and the attractive force of gravity pulls all matter together. Then came 1998 and the Hubble Space Telescope (HST) observations of very distant supernovae that showed that, a long time ago, the Universe was actually expanding more slowly than it is today. So the expansion of the Universe has not been slowing due to gravity, as everyone thought, it has been accelerating. No one expected this, no one knew how to explain it. But something was causing it.

This was the recent discovery:

More is unknown than is known. We know how much dark energy there is because we know how it affects the Universe's expansion. Other than that, it is a complete mystery. But it is an important mystery. It turns out that roughly 70% of the Universe is dark energy. Dark matter makes up about 25%. The rest - everything on Earth, everything ever observed with all of our instruments, all normal matter - adds up to less than 5% of the Universe. Come to think of it, maybe it shouldn't be called "normal" matter at all, since it is such a small fraction of the Universe.

Read more here: Dark Energy, Dark Matter - NASA Science

So now we know that a 'mysterious dark energy' has a vital role in controlling the universe.

We have plenty of magicians which can make you believe certain stuff even today.Both Vedas,Koran,Gita and Bible say GOD is shapeless ..if he could give shape to everything around us why he couldn't;t give himself a decent shape.Science says anything which doesn't have a shape or state is is unstable,that means god is unstable?

Read this: How does the Quran present God?

God is a very complex entity to define. Basic concept is that God is such a powerful entity that he is controlling everything.

Isn't religion just a hypothesis written in a way that make you believe it.Religion and GOD have been sensationalized and overrated....religion is just a hypothetical answer to things that ancients couldn't understand...now as we know so many things like EVOLUTION...and that there were no Manu and Smriti or Adam or Eve....great floods were nothing but melting of ICE AGE which sank the city of krishna and forced manu to harbour all the animals and plant to sail to some destination.

Religion is about belief in God and his commandments. Evolution does not discredits creation, if you focus on it objectively. Also, lots of things have been faked by proponents of evolution to further their cause. It is very easy to fool the masses in current times. People just don't do proper research. And even professionals are prone to personal biases. I can give examples.

Regarding Noah and floods; keep in mind that our knowledge is limited to 'recorded history'. We do not know everything about the past.

 

[indianpatriot]

^^ NOW YOU ARE TALKING LIKE A RELIGIOUS AMERICAN GEEK!