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[jamahir]

Bhai "Qurbani" has spiritual and "theological" connotations to it, it is not quite as simple as eating artificial meat (which to according scientists can trigger major health problems such as auto-immune disease), BTW I am a staunch animal-lover yet I fully embrace this tradition as it is part of my deen, no ifs or buts about it.Kudos bhai

Here is an article from Al Jazeera about artificial meat devised by a Dutch researcher. Al Jazeera is the official voice of Qatar which is a Muslim-majority country. The article does not contain any criticism.

I understand your affinity for the process of Qurbani but I ( also a Muslim ) am sure we can find a way where an animal is not sacrificed but the sanctity of Qurbani retained.

From that article I quote :

I realised I underestimated how attached we are to food authenticity, and that food to many is something they want to connect with.

But at the same time, most people don't really want to know how meat ended up on their plate.

The above is the dilemma that I and many other meat-eaters face.

The article also contains a vid describing the process of manufacturing meat ( in this case, beef ).

There is also the economic factor without it millions will go jobless

You are correct. And I have a solution.

Why can't all those people become farmers in Vertical Farms that are set up at neighborhood-level?? In a single stroke farmed food becomes universally available and people get gainful and scientific employment.

It may sound futuristic but Vertical Farming ( and Urban Farming ) is already being tried. Urban Farming is being done in Venezuela :

Around 20,000 Venezuelan adolescents will learn about urban farming as part of a plan launched by President Nicolas Maduro to support food production and the country’s youth programs.

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Under the program, thousands of members of the Chamba Juvenil program will be trained on how to grow and harvest fruits, vegetables, legumes as well as on how to raise sheep, goats, pigs and other livestock, said Minister of Youth and Sports Pedro Infante.

The initiative "will give thousands of young people a space to take advantage of their productive capabilities and contribute to the 15 motors of the Bolivarian Economic Agenda," Infante said in an interview with the national program, “La Hora de los Clap.”

According to the minister, the farming initiative plans to reach out to unemployed young people and incorporate them into the educational and production system.

The objective is to give young people an opportunity to grow in the health, education, urban production sectors, the minister added.

 

[jamahir]

@Mentee @Hamartia Antidote @BDforever @Bilal9 @Moonlight @Indus Pakistan -
above post.

 

[Zibago]

You are correct. And I have a solution.

Why can't all those people become farmers in Vertical Farms that are set up at neighborhood-level?? In a single stroke farmed food becomes universally available and people get gainful and scientific employment.

It may sound futuristic but Vertical Farming ( and Urban Farming ) is already being tried. Urban Farming is being done in Venezuela :

Rearing livestock is normally second job of most farmers if they just keep it to farming they will have decreased incomes plus an entire industry of leather is affected its not just all about religion and meat the nation,s economy is tied to it

 

[Indus Pakistan]

@Mentee @Hamartia Antidote @BDforever @Bilal9 @Moonlight @Indus Pakistan -
above post.

The other day I was at my butchers. I used to use another one but they mostly had everything cut and my sister told me about the place where I go now. This place cut everything to order and because of the quality/freshness is superior. However while you are standing you can clearly see shape of a animal being sliced, skinned and cut. That sort of wakes you up to the what was a living chicken, lamb, cow probably 24 hours ago in some green field. Not a nice thought. So I can see why some people turn vegetarian. But my view is or maybe just a excuse that in world full of evil my eating habits hardly make much differance. My family go through lot of beef, lamb, chicken in a week. All I can hope is somewhere in the future a solution will be found.

 

[jamahir]

Rearing livestock is normally second job of most farmers if they just keep it to farming they will have decreased incomes plus an entire industry of leather is affected its not just all about religion and meat the nation,s economy is tied to it

Again you are correct. I had not thought of the global leather industry in which Pakistan is a major producer of.

But there is artificial leather which can replace bio leather. Again the people employed in the leather industry can be gainfully and scientifically employed in farming.

This wikipedia page for artificial leather contains a photo of the queen of Belgium wearing a artificial leather and another photo of a Mercedes car ( 1968 model ) with artificial leather seat covers.

 

[war&peace]

I understand what you are saying never the less appropriate action has to be taken against these swines, they are challenging the psyche of the nation.Kudos Zibago

If we don't stop them and act like sissies then their encroachment will continue. So it is much better to take action now instead of letting things escalate and millions of people taking to the roads.

 

[Zibago]

But there is artificial leather which can replace bio leather. Again the people employed in the leather industry can be gainfully and scientifically employed in farming.

Most artificial leather i have used it below par it just cant beat the real thing

 

[Sheepistanis]

Again you are correct. I had not thought of the global leather industry in which Pakistan is a major producer of.

But there is artificial leather which can replace bio leather. Again the people employed in the leather industry can be gainfully and scientifically employed in farming.

This wikipedia page for artificial leather contains a photo of the queen of Belgium wearing a artificial leather and another photo of a Mercedes car ( 1968 model ) with artificial leather seat covers.

Don't get me wrong but what's next, sexual intercouse should be declared unlawful because babbies can now be created artifically?
We should develop a bio-system which recyles our bodily excretions, this will put an end to world hunger for sure.

 

[jamahir]

Most artificial leather i have used it below par it just cant beat the real thing

The wiki page echoes your point :

A disadvantage of plastic-coated artificial leather is that it is not porous and does not allow air to pass through; thus, sweat can accumulate if it is used for clothing, car seat coverings, etc.

But I am sure with research this disadvantage can be removed.


But the wiki page also quotes an advantage :

One of its primary advantages, especially in cars, is that it requires little maintenance in comparison to leather, and does not crack or fade easily.

Don't get me wrong but what's next, sexual intercouse should be declared unlawful because babbies can now be created artifically?

Well, I am an advocate for artificial human bio-wombs ( like from the Dune books series ).

Sexual intercourse can be used for pleasure.

We should develop a bio-system which recyles our bodily excretions, this will put an end to world hunger for sure.

Good idea !!

And technically that might be partially possible but it would become boring.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

@Mentee @Hamartia Antidote @BDforever @Bilal9 @Moonlight @Indus Pakistan -
above post.

Haven’t had a chance to watch the videos but I’m all for people growing their own food since I’m a gardener myself. If the process for growing meat doesn’t require tons of expensive equipment then sure...people should add it to their list of things to grow.

Again I’ll add my usual rant of when you move people off their land and into high rise apartments in cities you make them more poor and more dependent.

Can’t beat walking into your own garden in the morning and picking fresh vegetables and fruits. Hopefully people won’t need a Meth lab like arrangement to grow meat.

 

[El Sidd]

#Deen_e_IlahiAlert

 

[jamahir]

Again I’ll add my usual rant of when you move people off their land and into high rise apartments in cities you make them more poor and more dependent.

Good thinking !!

 

[jamahir]

#Deen_e_IlahiAlert

Retired troll chacha alert !!

 

[El Sidd]

Retired troll chacha alert !!

Let me take a wild guess.

You Support this and would like to see muslims do monetary charity rather than slaughter?

 

[jamahir]

Let me take a wild guess.

You Support this and would like to see muslims do monetary charity rather than slaughter?

Why not??

Already, Zakat is a socialist idea.

Additionally, a modern socialist society would go even further.