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Evergrande’s Total Liabilities Swell to Over $300 Billion

In 2020, their asset liability ratio is 83.55%, which is still a long way from being insolvent.


Once again you are equating debt to liability. Their debt-to-asset ratio was 83.4% end of 2020.
Their position has significantly weekend since then.

At the end of 2020, Evergrande’s net debt ratio was 153%, the debt-to-asset ratio after excluding advance receipts was 83.4%, and the cash short-term debt ratio was 0.54, which is still in the “red range”.

 
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this the third time that I've asked you to read the Bloomberg source posted by OP and the WSJ report I later added. Don't waste my time.
I read them. no where do i see info on the value of the company's assets and debts.
 
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Once again you are equating debt to liability. Their debt-to-asset ratio was 83.4% end of 2020.
Their position has significantly weekend since then.

At the end of 2020, Evergrande’s net debt ratio was 153%, the debt-to-asset ratio after excluding advance receipts was 83.4%, and the cash short-term debt ratio was 0.54, which is still in the “red range”.

lol, where do I equate debt to liability? the new article just proved that their assets can cover debts when liquidated,
 
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Bonds issued by indebted developer China Evergrande Group slumped on Monday after a ratings downgrade led to restrictions on their use as collateral, prompting China’s stock exchanges to halt trade.

The Shanghai Stock Exchange said in a statement that it had temporarily suspended trading in China Evergrande Group’s 6.98% July 2022 corporate bond following “abnormal fluctuations.” The exchange had also suspended trading in the bond on Friday.

Shanghai exchange data showed the bonds sliding more than 25% to a low of 40.18 yuan after the resumption of trade on Monday afternoon. The company’s 5.9% May 2023 Shenzhen-traded bond, which was also suspended, fell more than 35% after trading resumed.

The slump in bond prices comes after a ratings downgrade erased the bonds’ value for use in pledged repo trading.

Rules governing pledged repos require bonds issued after April 7, 2017 and pledged as collateral to be rated AAA, while issuers must have credit ratings of AA or higher. Bonds issued before that date - including Evergrande’s July 2022 bond - need only be rated AA or higher.


China Chengxin International Credit Rating Co (CCXI) downgraded Evergrande and its onshore bonds to AA from AAA on Thursday, and placed the company and its bonds on a watchlist for further downgrades.

On Friday, China Securities Depository and Clearing Co. (CSDC) reduced the “conversion ratio” of the July 2022 bond to zero, effective Sept. 7. Other Evergrande bonds were not included in CSDC’s table of conversion ratios on Friday as they no longer qualified for inclusion.

The conversion ratio determines leverage limits for repo financing given a specific bond pledged as collateral. CSDC is owned by the Shanghai and Shenzhen stock exchanges.

A director at a local brokerage said that the reduction in the conversion ratio was a “grey rhino” - a highly obvious yet ignored threat. “It was bound to happen.”


Evergrande declined to comment. But in a statement on the Shanghai Stock Exchange on Monday, it acknowledged the impact of the rating downgrade on the bonds’ use as pledged repo collateral. It said the bonds had previously been deemed appropriate only for qualified institutional investors, and the downgrade had no impact on investor suitability.

Worries surrounding Evergrande, which has been scrambling to raise funds to pay lenders and suppliers, have grown into broader concerns that a debt crisis could send shockwaves through China’s banking system.

On Friday, an index of high-yield Chinese dollar issuers fell to its lowest level since spring 2020.
 
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because liabilities is much...much...much larger than the assets held by Evergrande.
As per financial report ending 2021-6-30, total assets ¥2,377B, total liabilities ¥1,966B (US$ bonds included), how come you say liabilities is much...much...much larger than the assets held by Evergrande?

Why such blatant lie?

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As per latest financial report, total assets ¥2,377B, total liabilities ¥1,966B (US$ bonds included), how come you say liabilities is much...much...much larger than the assets held by Evergrande?

Why spread the lie?

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You posted the 2020 balance sheet we are in the fourth quarter of 2021. Asset values have fallen, the position has flipped.The Evergrande Chairman is selling his house, private jet and personal assets to keep Evergrande afloat. He wouldn't do that if Evergrande assets were worth more than its liabilities. Funny you resort to revenge negative rating an old post of mine.

Your troll post on the F35 crash deserved a negative rating. You are a title holder - please preserve the dignity of your title and while you're at it please grow up. Thank you.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/17/investing/evergrande-debt-chairman-sells-assets-intl-hnk/index.html

 
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You posted the 2020 balance sheet
Another blatant lie! Again? It's the financial report ending 2021-6-30, where do you find the links pointing to 2020?

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Simply stop lying, that's the least requirement from any poster let alone a title holder. Act responsibly like a grown up instead of abusing rights attached with your title, thank you.

 
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Another blatant lie! Again? It's the financial report ending 2021-6-30, where do you find the links pointing to 2020?


Simply stop lying, that's the least requirement from any poster let alone a title holder. Act responsibly like a grown up instead of abusing rights attached with your title, thank you.


I assumed you were quoting 2020 figures - my bad.
I just read your report it states total liabilities = 1.97 trillion and current assets = 1.95 trillion. Yes Evergrande is upside down. Little wonder the chairman is selling his personal assets.
 
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I assumed you were quoting 2020 figures - my bad
I specifically mentioned "As per latest financial report" and you quoted me exactly that, anyway.
I just read your report it states total liabilities = 1.97 trillion and current assets = 1.95 trillion. Yes Evergrande is upside down. Little wonder the chairman is selling his personal assets.
There are far more technicals all pointing to his liquidity insufficiency, so of course he has to inject as much as he can or he face forced liquidation, de-listing from HKEX, game over for him. Anyway his market cap has sunken to ¥36B which is peanut for the HK$50T HKEX, game over for him but hardly a shock to the system. This is the result of a wannabe cartel guy playing over-expansion, and the taboo hoarding game.
 
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debt is a subset of liabilities. Liabilities are obligations that go beyond debt and include payables, wages, dividends and taxes these are examples of liability not related to debt. Liability as stated by bloomberg is 300 b$ but debt is lower.

You are bluffing. For a real estate company debt would be a very large part of liabilities not less than half.
 
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I assumed you were quoting 2020 figures - my bad.
I just read your report it states total liabilities = 1.97 trillion and current assets = 1.95 trillion. Yes Evergrande is upside down. Little wonder the chairman is selling his personal assets.
Evergrandes off balance sheet liabilities are estimated by Goldman Sachs to be at least 1Trmb (approx 156$us billion), including deferred payments and mortgage guarantees.

On the asset side of the equation, some accounting trickery has been used for many years to avoid write downs on unsold properties, reclassifying developments meant for resale (inventory) as investment properties. The scale of the write downs needed to provide a true and fair representation was estimated by Hong Kong based accounting research firm GMT to be around $23 billion US. Evergrande had allowed a build up of failed developments to accumulate on its books resulting in an unusually large amount of investment properties for a property developer.

The inevitable cash crunch resulted from the companies practices of accumulating failed developments, reclassifying as investments (above their market value), and using those properties to secure more finding to build more properties. So when Evergrande breached the three red lines and could no longer source financing to fund new developments, the entire cycle has become disrupted.

Evergrande has probably been technically insolvent for 8-10 years according to some analysts. When write downs and off balance liabilities are factored in, Evergrande is well into negative equity.
 
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Foreign investors are being paid last anyhow.

First is employees, then homebuyers, then banks. Even if Evergrande goes down the hedge fund vultures take a massive haircut which is why they are making a huge deal out of this. If only Chinese were going to be hurt they'd celebrate it.
 
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