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STOCKHOLM (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Bangladesh and India have long tried to stop people from defecating in outdoor public places – a practice that spreads fatal diseases – but Bangladesh has had much more success than the economic giant next door in getting people to use toilets.

The percentage of Bangladeshis defecating in the open dropped from 19 percent in 2000 to just 3 percent in 2012, while nearly half the India’s 1.2 billion people still resort to streets and fields as their toilet of choice.

So how did Bangladesh do it, and why India is still struggling?

The key, according to World Bank water expert Junaid Ahmad, is shame.

Several years ago, NGOs fanned out across Bangladesh and asked villagers to mark the outdoor public places where they were relieving themselves. They then mapped it out, showing the villagers that they were defecating right next to their homes and mosques – putting their families and neighbors at risk of serious illnesses such as cholera, diarrhea, dysentery, hepatitis A and typhoid.

This mapping exercise stirred a collective sense of shame - and a seismic shift in habits.

“What Bangladesh realized very early on was that sanitation is about delivering an infrastructure and about creating behavior change… You have to first recognize that it’s a behavior shift that’s needed before you put in the infrastructure,” Ahmad, the senior director of global water practice at the World Bank, told Thomson Reuters Foundation on the sidelines of a global water conference in Stockholm.

“Health message is not enough to trigger people’s shift. You have to understand the behavior, what triggers that change.”

FREE TOILETS = EXTRA STORAGE

By contrast in India, toilets were offered for free in a hope that people would simply start using them, but instead, people used the latrines for additional storage.

“In economics there are not too many goods in which if you put the price at zero the demand still doesn’t move. Sanitation is one of these goods. Even if you build toilets and hand it to people they don’t use it,” he said.

In 2013, India’s then-prime minister candidate Narendra Modi vowed to “first have toilets and then temples.” Seven months later, two teenage girls were hanged from a tree when they went to relieve themselves in a field in Uttar Pradesh.

Inadequate sanitation costs India an estimated $54 billion a year.

Ahmad stressed the need for more than just toilets to achieve universal access to sanitation.

“It’s about well functioning utilities, local governments, efforts on behavior change,” he said. “But the most important is to get citizens involved. When you get them involved this is when you scale up.”

Ahmad noted that India has its own sanitation “success stories” - in Haryana, West Bengal, Kerala and Maharashtra states. In order to scale up those successes, he advises the central government to ensure that money flows to the states and to local governments.
 
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South Asians generally consider it unhygienic to have a toilet at home. That's the problem. We need to change their mindsets before spending millions on building toilets that few would make use of.

South Asia and sanitation

A major responsibility for achieving the Millennium Development Goals in sanitation by
2015 rests with the countries in the South Asia region. The baseline for sanitation coverage
here has been well below the average for the world (20% compared to a global figure of
49% in 1990) and subsequent progress has also been very slow.

A significant proportion of the 2.6 billion people in the world who do not use improved
sanitation live in South Asia. While open defecation has declined worldwide to 17%, in South
Asia it remains as high as 44%. The urban to rural disparities are also high – seven out of
ten people without improved sanitation facilities reportedly live in rural areas in the region.

It is not that countries in South Asia have not been doing anything about the crisis; rather,
it is that what is being done is often inadequate and not always appropriate. Governments
may have been overly policy-centric with relatively little effective action taking place on
the ground.
South Asian people's perspectives on sanitation
 
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South Asians generally consider it unhygienic to have a toilet at home. That's the problem. We need to change their mindsets before spending millions on building toilets that few would make use of.

I think the term South Asia is generalizing a bit.. There are countries in the region that have first world sanitary standards

Btw the OP has a very good perspective on the gist of the issue.. Mere infrastructure will not change attitudes of the masses and attitudes that runs in to millenia.. Civil consciousness is something that needs to be instilled, might take a generation though
 
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I think the term South Asia is generalizing a bit.. There are countries in the region that have first world sanitary standards

I'm against the use of word "South Asian".Countries should be clearly named!
 
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I was under an impression that the main problem is lack of toilets, But few days back one thread in PDF made me realise there is another problem " Usage of Toilets".... I guess this need education and lot of work to be done..... this is where NGO's can play a role.....
 
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I was under an impression that the main problem is lack of toilets, But few days back one thread in PDF made me realise there is another problem " Usage of Toilets".... I guess this need education and lot of work to be done..... this is where NGO's can play a role.....

And strict implementations of rules and regulations/fines.. Sometimes less educated masses need that extra deterrent.. It's human nature
 
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South Asians generally consider it unhygienic to have a toilet at home. That's the problem. We need to change their mindsets before spending millions on building toilets that few would make use of.

no man its the fresh air flow that produces some kind of sensation the enclosed room cannot provide. maybe design a toilet with a fan blowing air on the sunshine
 
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I am amazed with this fig of 50% ...its very difficult to find a home without a toilet here in southern part of our country ..i dont think up bihar can drag equation so drastically ..whats authenticity of this survey ? Or media sensationalising the matter ?
 
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Some time I am surprised that from where these surveys take place.
I am yet to meet a single person who defects in open despite having toilet. Public toilets are not maintained so mostly they are out of service.
 
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Some time I am surprised that from where these surveys take place.
I am yet to meet a single person who defects in open despite having toilet. Public toilets are not maintained so mostly they are out of service.

Well as a tourist that have traveled widely in India i have come across atleast a dozen times people defecating in the open.. Once even at a pit stop between Hyderabad and Bangalore when a whole family that was sitting right next to us just got got down from the coach and relieved themselves on the side of the road to our utter astonishment .. And these were people who could afford to travel in a coach.. Though admittedly it was more than a decade ago but i have witnessed others (Mostly poorer people) on more recent trips.. So it's surprising that as a Indian resident you have not come across this..

Btw this is not a troll attempt.. Just sharing my first hand experience.. On hind sight people might be using the toilets in their homes but there was also a thread on the contrary where it highlighted the general population being reluctant to use them despite the govt efforts to provide the toilets and i guess it's not just about open defection but the lack of general civic sense like littering public spaces etc
 
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Well as a tourist that have traveled widely in India i have come across atleast a dozen times people defecating in the open.. Once even at a pit stop between Hyderabad and Bangalore when a whole family that was sitting right next to us just got got down from the coach and relieved themselves on the side of the road to our utter astonishment .. And these were people who could afford to travel in a coach.. Though admittedly it was more than a decade ago but i have witnessed others (Mostly poorer people) on more recent trips.. So it's surprising that as a Indian resident you have not come across this..

Btw this is not a troll attempt.. Just sharing my first hand experience.. On hind sight people might be using the toilets in their homes but there was also a thread on the contrary where it highlighted the general population being reluctant to use them despite the govt efforts to provide the toilets and i guess it's not just about open defection but the lack of general civic sense like littering public spaces etc
I give you example of my native village where not a single toilet built by government fund despite showing more than 60 on paper.
 
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any rigid solution guys ??
 
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STOCKHOLM (Thomson Reuters Foundation) ...

The percentage of Bangladeshis defecating in the open dropped from 19 percent in 2000 to just 3 percent in 2012, while nearly half the India’s 1.2 billion people still resort to streets and fields as their toilet of choice.

So how did Bangladesh do it, and why India is still struggling?

The key, according to World Bank water expert Junaid Ahmad, is shame.

A similar approach won't work in India. Indians have no shame. We have to come up with a different strategy to help the Indians.
 
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