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Well by nuking attacking indian forces on pakistani soil we have defended ourselfs.
So if Indian forces entered city of Lahore, the only option of solving the problem at hand for Pakistan would be to nuke it's inhabitants and Indian Forces, what a logic there genius.


Of course you indians would never take the "sissy option" if it came to china....LOL
We are a nation of revolutionaries and patriots, we prefer fighting for centuries for our land occupied by foreigners. Sissy option is just not an option when it comes to reclaiming your own soil.

But its happening a lot quicker then indian turning into a superpower.
Not until china can throw it's weight around other superpowers unchallenged. maybe in 2 more decades probably.
 
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So if Indian forces entered city of Lahore, the only option of solving the problem at hand for Pakistan would be to nuke it's inhabitants and Indian Forces, what a logic there genius.

They can very well use their tactical nukes on our army on their territory.

They are a small country with a smaller army.

Their mindset is totally different. A successful major Indian thrust into their territory will make them see the writing on the wall, which may force them to resort to tactical nukes.
 
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So pakistan where fortune tellers in the 50s and had a prophecy that china would be a superpower?



Good for you





It puts the indian line on "pakistan proxy" story in the right perspective.

in 50's you were with US and still are now you run after China, well China has still long long way to go.

It is a known fact, Pakistan is a proxy of China to destabalize India, no matter how one denies, it won't change the stand since things are very transparent.
 
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In the face of such bellicose nature, there ought to be a nuclear understanding among China, BD, SL and Pakistan. Not only provision of nuclear shield, the understanding should also include locating nukes in each others territory.
 
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In the face of such bellicose nature, there ought to be a nuclear understanding among China, BD, SL and Pakistan. Not only provision of nuclear shield, the understanding should also include locating nukes in each others territory.

That would be a pointless exercise given that both Chinese and Pakistani missiles can cover all of Indian territory as it is.

Talk about begaani shaadi main abdulaah dewana.
 
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First of all, why would Pakistan need to use a nuke until and unless India feels adventurous.....and even if the situation prevails, would Pakistan just fire off one nuke and then just sit and wait for a reply or would it carry out a decisive blow.
I haven't heard or read to the effect that Pakistan threatened to nuke India hence such statements by India, we will do this and that only proves the fact that it's only trying to convince it'self and under the circumstances put on a brave face.
As the saying goes, barking dog seldom bites, it would benefit India to address the situation on the Chinese border rather than mouthing off to fool it's own public. !!


WJ,

Thank you. Well stated.

This thread is just a comic relief for Indian posters worried sick about things on Chinese border.


The OP is not by a serving Indian general, nor it is by a big name Indian politician.

By the looks of it, OP might be a copy, and Indian version of Hafiz Saeed, the bharak-baaz, the sloganeer.


peace
 
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First of all US cold war policy has everything to do with the USSR, read up on the history before you blurt out random analogies. Also there is no such thing as judea Christian US that it a new concept that started in the 1940s around the time of ww2 that has no mention in the constitution and is only peddled forward today ironically by indian fobs on this forum such as yourself.

The majority of syrians have not asked for US help so I do not see why you bring them up. :offpost:

Maybe you need to learn to comprehend the difference between " When we were in the cold war, we too had ' specific' policies towards other nations that had nothing to with then USSR" and saying cold war was nothing to do with the USSR. You guys make it easy for the rest to shake our heads and laugh at you. i.e. The Us has contingent policies for nations that had nothing to do with the cold war adversaries.

similarly this article is addressing specific threats that Pakistan has made or assumes i.e. tactical nukes would deter because of the limited scope over larger ones.


Our constitution is steeped in Judea christian derived rights, been stated, debated and educated to you guys several times here. Go read up about a country if you bother to ask to be a citizen of it.

The majority of Syrians being not alawities ( however it is spelled) have asked the US for help. It is absolutely appalling to have such unknowledgeable citizens spout utter ignorance on the subject matter.
 
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Maybe you need to learn to comprehend the difference between " When we were in the cold war, we too had ' specific' policies towards other nations that had nothing to with then USSR" and saying cold war was nothing to do with the USSR. You guys make it easy for the rest to shake our heads and laugh at you. i.e. The Us has contingent policies for nations that had nothing to do with the cold war adversaries.

Our constitution is steeped in Judea christian derived rights, been stated, debated and educated to you guys several times here. Go read up about a country if you bother to ask to be a citizen of it.

The majority of Syrians being not alawities ( however it is spelled) have asked the US for help. It is absolutely appalling to have such unknowledgeable citizens spout utter ignorance on the subject matter.

No in the cold war US foreign policy was centered only around containment of communism. From the middle east to asia to europe and even here in the North America everything was designed to stop the spread. Every foreign relation was balanced out with the Soviets in mind. Today things are different but I don't expect you to know that as you are a fan boy who just recently got his citizenship.

BS the constitution divides rights based on civil liberties and civil rights not judea christian rights. I thought they tested you fobs on these things. :rolleyes: There is no such thing as judeo christian anyway, show me one christian or jewish scholar that mentioned them in the same breath as one unit like you indians on here always like to peddle. It has never been debated it has only been peddled here by a few indians like yourself, ks, and a couple others for obvious reasons. You should take up your own advice though as obviously you do not know the building blocks of your adopted country. Go ask Syrian sunnis what they think, there are a few here in the states. Ignorant freshie. :lol:
 
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Look at indian idiocy and innocence they think this way Pakistan will stop building its state of the art smart bombs and yes ofcourse there shouldnt be any doubt that these will be used against advancing indian troops in border and LOC areas once the final kashmir liberation war starts which will be sooner than any body in the world would have expected. Infact indians should be thankful to us that we are sparing them huge life losses by not using our big bad boys as for as indian retaliation is concerned well that will be taken care of by 4000 km range ballistic missiles and 700 km range air to surface cruise missiles loaded with both smart and standard nukes to respond any indian misadventure appropriately during liberation war. These smart bombs are actually designed to wipe out indian forces in border regions and also if required to take out 62 short listed indian defence installation which when dealt with will cripple indian defence paving the way for kashmirs independence and also will ensure lasting peace in this region.

And a little news for those who have forgotten this..[thread=202604]clickme![/thread]
 
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That would be a pointless exercise given that both Chinese and Pakistani missiles can cover all of Indian territory as it is.

Talk about begaani shaadi main abdulaah dewana.

There is no Abdullah here. Dispersal will provide flexibility and confuse the targeted nation regarding the direction of attack. The host nation will feel more comfortable and included in the pact - which by the way exists in principle if not paper.
 
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That would be a pointless exercise given that both Chinese and Pakistani missiles can cover all of Indian territory as it is.

Talk about begaani shaadi main abdulaah dewana.


Well, I would have mentioned the mendaki and Teerandaaz idiom, but I have already been warned once by the Moderators that some folks may consider that as a personal attack :D
 
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No in the cold war US foreign policy was centered only around containment of communism. From the middle east to asia to europe and even here in the North America everything was designed to stop the spread. Every foreign relation was balanced out with the Soviets in mind. Today things are different but I don't expect you to know that as you are a fan boy who just recently got his citizenship.

BS the constitution divides rights based on civil liberties and civil rights not judea christian rights. I thought they tested you fobs on these things. :rolleyes: There is no such thing as judeo christian anyway, show me one christian or jewish scholar that mentioned them in the same breath as one unit like you indians on here always like to peddle. It has never been debated it has only been peddled here by a few indians like yourself, ks, and a couple others for obvious reasons. You should take up your own advice though as obviously you do not know the building blocks of your adopted country. Go ask Syrian sunnis what they think, there are a few here in the states. Ignorant freshie. :lol:

Yes I see now why you guys are held as the knowledgeable ones of all things US constitution and history. Your ilks reputation precedes all in this regard in our country, among other things obvious. Clearly you don't understand this article nor the concept that countries have specific policies depending on threat perceptions and can be independent of other countries! and
Clearly asking for your ilk to believe that our declaration of independence and constitution is based off Judea Christian principles would be blasphemous of us .
 
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NEW DELHI: India will retaliate massively even if Pakistan uses tactical nuclear weapons against it. With Pakistan developing "tactical" nuclear warheads, that is, miniaturizing its weapons to be carried on short-range missiles, India will protect its security interests by retaliating to a "smaller" tactical attack in exactly the same manner as it would respond to a "big" strategic attack.

Articulating Indian nuclear policy in this regard for the first time, Shyam Saran, convener of the National Security Advisory Board, said, "India will not be the first to use nuclear weapons, but if it is attacked with such weapons, it would engage in nuclear retaliation which will be massive and designed to inflict unacceptable damage on its adversary. The label on a nuclear weapon used for attacking India, strategic or tactical, is irrelevant from the Indian perspective." This is significant, because Saran was placing on record India's official nuclear posture with the full concurrence of the highest levels of nuclear policymakers in New Delhi.

Giving a speech on India's nuclear deterrent recently, Saran placed India's nuclear posture in perspective in the context of recent developments, notably the "jihadist edge" that Pakistan's nuclear weapons capability have acquired.

Saran argued that as a result of its tactical weapons, Pakistan believes it has brought down the threshold of nuclear use. "Pakistani motivation is to dissuade India from contemplating conventional punitive retaliation to sub-conventional but highly destructive and disruptive cross-border terrorist strikes such as the horrific 26/11 attack on Mumbai. What Pakistan is signalling to India and to the world is that India should not contemplate retaliation even if there is another Mumbai because Pakistan has lowered the threshold of nuclear use to the theatre level. This is nothing short of nuclear blackmail, no different from the irresponsible behaviour one witnesses in North Korea," he said.

One of the main reasons for Pakistan miniaturizing its nukes is actually to keep its weapons from being confiscated or neutralized by the US, a fear that has grown in the Pakistani establishment in the wake of the operation against Osama bin Laden. "Pakistan has, nevertheless, projected its nuclear deterrent as solely targeted at India and its strategic doctrine mimics the binary nuclear equation between the US and the Soviet Union which prevailed during the Cold War," Saran said.

However, warning Pakistan, he added, "A limited nuclear war is a contradiction in terms. Any nuclear exchange, once initiated, would swiftly and inexorably escalate to the strategic level. Pakistan would be prudent not to assume otherwise as it sometimes appears to do, most recently by developing and perhaps deploying theatre nuclear weapons."

There have been significant shifts in Pakistan's nuclear posture recently. First is the movement from uranium to a newer generation of plutonium weapons, which has enabled Pakistan to increase the number of weapons, outstripping India in weapons and fissile material production. Although they are still to be verified, Pakistan has claimed it has miniaturized nuclear weapons to be used on cruise missiles and other short-range missiles. The newer generation of Pakistan's weapons are also solid-fuelled rather than liquid, making them easier to transport and launch.

Even a midget nuke strike will lead to massive retaliation, India warns Pak - The Times of India

dear imagine a scenario

Indian troops are advancing in Pakistan territory from two sectors

1-Lahore-Sialkot sector
2-Rahim yar Khan- Bahawalpur sector

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Pakistan army have lost almost 70 of it assets, Navy and PAF has neutralized by Indian and Indian troops have captured most of the area between Lahore and Sialkot and now concentrating at Chenab river to capture Gujarat city situated just 163 Km away or 2 and half hour drive from Rawalpindi and 172 Km from Islamabad.

Or they are advancing in Rahim yar Khan Sector and trying to capture it so that Pakistan could be cut into two......

In my humble opinion In this case Pakistan will used it tactical nuclear arsenal as it will be the breach of its nuclear threshold......but there is a problem in this scenario

How could India neutralize Pakistani Arm forces to that extant......???
Cold Start Doctrine is not about capturing big chunk of land inside the International Borders...???

http://casi.sas.upenn.edu/system/files/Security+Challenges+-+2006.pdf
http://www.issi.org.pk/publication-files/1340000409_86108059.pdf
Pakistan’s Nuclear Doctrine
http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/files/IS3203_pp158-190.pdf

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lalay lassi pio or thand rakoo.......:cheers:

NA NAO MAAN TAAL HO GA OR NA AAP KI RADAH NAHCHE GI
 
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