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Europe Divided Over China Arms Sales

Britain is on a collision course with the European Union over the sale of arms to China. Since the Beijing government crackdown on protestors in Tiananmen Square in 1989, EU member states have been banned from selling goods that could be used by the Chinese military.

China’s new J-20 stealth fighter roars along the runway and takes to the skies, the maiden test-flight of a plane designed to rival the United States’ radar-eluding aircraft.

Images of the flight, leaked on the Internet and subsequently confirmed as genuine by the Beijing government, have focused attention on China’s military modernization.

The European Union banned the sale of military technology to China following the crackdown on dissidents in Beijing’s Tiananmen Square in 1989.

But Alexander Neill of analyst group the Royal United Services Institute says China’s growing financial influence in Europe is starting to tell.

"EU member states certainly feel pressured by China given the economic contagion, which seems to be spreading through the EU at the moment,” Neill said. “Many national leaders, I am sure, will think twice about how they engage the Chinese on investment, which is essentially bailing them out of elements of their economic doldrums."

Beijing has just signed a series of multi-billion-dollar deals with European companies. China says it is also prepared to buy up to $7.9 billion of Spanish government debt at a time of heightened fears over the future of the euro currency.

Many EU leaders, including the bloc’s foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton, have suggested it is time the arms export ban to China was revised.

Britain, while welcoming its own slice of Chinese investment, is at odds with EU countries that want to repeal the embargo."The U.K.’s position remains exactly as it has been over the last few years, which is now is not the right time to lift the ban," Neill stated.

Chinese President Hu Jintao visited Washington earlier this month and sought to calm fears over China’s investment in its military. He says China does not engage in arms races or pose a military threat to any country and will never seek hegemony or pursue an expansionist policy.

Despite military spending estimated at $78 billion in 2010, Alexander Neill says China’s armed forces still lag behind. "But there are areas of concern where China has managed to play catch-up with the United States,” he said. “Particularly in its high-tech and asymmetric capabilities."

China’s J-20 stealth fighter is an example of such high-tech advances.
 
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"EU member states certainly feel pressured by China given the economic contagion, which seems to be spreading through the EU at the moment,” Neill said. “Many national leaders, I am sure, will think twice about how they engage the Chinese on investment, which is essentially bailing them out of elements of their economic doldrums."

Beijing has just signed a series of multi-billion-dollar deals with European companies. China says it is also prepared to buy up to $7.9 billion of Spanish government debt at a time of heightened fears over the future of the euro currency.

Well it looks like the fact that China is bailing out Spain and Greece is not going unnoticed in the EU.

However, as seigecrossbow said, please don't lift the arms embargo.

It was one of the best things that has ever happened for our indigenous arms industries. :smitten:
 
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Well it looks like the fact that China is bailing out Spain and Greece is not going unnoticed in the EU.

However, as seigecrossbow said, please don't lift the arms embargo.

It was one of the best things that has ever happened for our indigenous arms industries. :smitten:

Same here.:tup:

We made our Aerospace Industry, Space Industry and the ability to make Nuclear Reactors. All under Sanctions.

See Today. Our Government is spending on buying like Laggards.:disagree:
 
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Please, please, PLEASE, don't end the arms embargo. Our domestic arms industries have done very well under the pressure of embargo and ending it may reverse all that.


Hey. I hope that the European lifting of the ban.
We need to German machine tool and Western autoloading technology and UK Avionics Technology and Rolls-Royce Ltd......
 
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I personally dont think China will buy a lot from Eu if the ban was deleted because China have their own military industry and already been research for many years....so no worry just some technology will be buy from eu.
 
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UK has no independent foreign policy. It is just good to be the dog follower of US. Infact the UK is a US state just like California with the same crippling economy representing nothing in the world stage. UK is best represented by Blair, the biggest liar and war criminal the world has ever known. What best symbolizes the UK: Mad Cow Disease, Lazy English men, drunk alcohol addicted. Now the UK does not even exist within the EU, Germany, France, Italy have already surpassed the UK since the 80's. Indo-Pak immigrants are taking over everywhere.:pakistan::china::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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Actually, I think both Europe & China will benefit GREATLY in large jet transports R&D, if China could work more closely with Airbus. It will help China in gaining critical tech, while Airbus could learn from Chinese management efficiency.
For a nation that just built its 5th generation fighter, China's jet transport indutry is still very much in its infancy, perhaps even lagging slightly behind Brazil.
 
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Actually, I think both Europe & China will benefit GREATLY in large jet transports R&D, if China could work more closely with Airbus. It will help China in gaining critical tech, while Airbus could learn from Chinese management efficiency.
For a nation that just built its 5th generation fighter, China's jet transport indutry is still very much in its infancy, perhaps even lagging slightly behind Brazil.

Can Brazil build its own stealth fighter?
 
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The fall of Europe , Euro is nearing. Their economies are expanding hardly 1 to 1.5% on average. With the passage of time, blame game among EU will intensify, already, in some recently joined smaller EU countries, calls can heard for independence from EU.
Main reason , for their economic decline, that they hide is the very slow growth rate of their population.
 
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The fall of Europe , Euro is nearing. Their economies are expanding hardly 1 to 1.5% on average. With the passage of time, blame game among EU will intensify, already, in some recently joined smaller EU countries, calls can heard for independence from EU.
Main reason , for their economic decline, that they hide is the very slow growth rate of their population.

How about China and India pave all their roads and get electricity and running water to those villages before their nationals start calling for the end of the EU and the Euro.
 
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Looks like Britain is still the US's b itch when it comes to geopolitics

They are acting under there own free will.... we dont control what they say....

What nation wants to agree with China's evil ways anyways.... Im sure there intentions are not friendly...

Don't get me wrong China is awesome in many ways business wise, but with this communist thinking is evil... and these ways do not sit well for many of us
 
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Hey. I hope that the European lifting of the ban.
We need to German machine tool and Western autoloading technology and UK Avionics Technology and Rolls-Royce Ltd......

I am fraid that Rolls-Royce engine could be the only technology that China is interested of for now.

Since China has the goal to build the reliable top class jet engine like Pratt & Whitney and GE.
 
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