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* Erdogan bought useless S-400, lost valuable F-35 contract and all this for Sochi agreements with Putin.

* Putin broke Sochi agreements, captured territories and expelled 1.5 million people to tents.

* Capturing territories and expelling 1.5 mln people was not enough for Putin, he murdered over 50 Turkish soldiers just for fun. This finally forced Erdogan to react (he did not react when million people were expelled).

* Despite Turkish drones and F-16s showed total superiority over Russian and Assad junk tech Erdogan ordered to stop the operation and surrendered to Putin.

* Erdogan promised to take back all lands according to Sochi agreements. Instead he surrenders even more lands to Putin/Assad in new agreement (which Putin will break too).
 
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Massive victory for the Syrian Government. Not only did Erdogan not get his Sochi lines, but he has relinquished control over even more territory. Not that it was his to relinquish anyway. Just a matter of time now until all of Idlib is liberated.
 
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* Despite Turkish drones and F-16s showed total superiority over Russian and Assad junk tech Erdogan ordered to stop the operation and surrendered to Putin.

What did you expect. After losing 10% of all Turkish drones in inventory in a matter of 2 days in panic retreat suffering huge casualities they lost any clue what to do next.

BTW you look so butthurt like Jihadi Julian :lol:
 
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The problem is that air power alone was not going to bring victory to Turkey. They couldn't fly F16s deeper into Syria or risk being shot down by S-400. They would have to commit boots on the ground and then take heavy casualties.

They lost quite a few drones, how long could they keep this up for, considering they also have quite a stagnant economy? Not to mention this would eventually risk an actual war with Russia.

They're also up against 3 main players in Iran, Syria and Russia with an endless supply of mindless Shia mercenaries prepared to die for Tehran and Assad.
 
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* Erdogan bought useless S-400, lost valuable F-35 contract and all this for Sochi agreements with Putin.

* Putin broke Sochi agreements, captured territories and expelled 1.5 million people to tents.

* Capturing territories and expelling 1.5 mln people was not enough for Putin, he murdered over 50 Turkish soldiers just for fun. This finally forced Erdogan to react (he did not react when million people were expelled).

* Despite Turkish drones and F-16s showed total superiority over Russian and Assad junk tech Erdogan ordered to stop the operation and surrendered to Putin.

* Erdogan promised to take back all lands according to Sochi agreements. Instead he surrenders even more lands to Putin/Assad in new agreement (which Putin will break too).

Why you think S-400 is useless?
 
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What did you expect. After losing 10% of all Turkish drones in inventory in a matter of 2 days in panic retreat suffering huge casualities they lost any clue what to do next.

BTW you look so butthurt like Jihadi Julian [emoji38]
Losing a few drones compared to hundreds of tanks, air defence, fighters and massive casualties is nothing. We obliterated regime with only drones not even our airforce. We didn't bomb everywhere and kill mass civilians like you freaks.

Our main is to make an agreement so the refugees go back which is causing too much strain on economy.
 
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What did you expect. After losing 10% of all Turkish drones in inventory in a matter of 2 days in panic retreat suffering huge casualities they lost any clue what to do next.

BTW you look so butthurt like Jihadi Julian :lol:

Julian just can’t understand why Turkey would surrender given how “successful” they’ve been. It’s as if he actually believes the numbers that Turkey is reporting.

How can Turkey score thousands of kills and suffer only tens of losses yet lose ground and then surrender? Logically, it’s clear that Turkey has not been truthful.
 
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Why you think S-400 is useless?
Because it was not produced by the US or Israel. Duh! Only super weapons that these countries produce are useful.

Losing a few drones compared to hundreds of tanks, air defence, fighters and massive casualties is nothing. We obliterated regime with only drones not even our airforce. We didn't bomb everywhere and kill mass civilians like you freaks.

Our main is to make an agreement so the refugees go back which is causing too much strain on economy.

Is this video true? They say Turkey has used video game footage in their videos of their revenge attacks on the Syrian Army. The videos are claimed to be from Arma 3.
 
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Losing a few drones compared to hundreds of tanks, air defence, fighters and massive casualties is nothing. We obliterated regime with only drones not even our airforce. We didn't bomb everywhere and kill mass civilians like you freaks.

Our main is to make an agreement so the refugees go back which is causing too much strain on economy.

Losing 20% of all your drones in total for couple of dozens of old soviet tanks and vehicles and 1 air defense system (still theres a doubt whether the video is fake or not) in first 2-3 days before Syria deployed enough air defence. And all the world is laughing about your Bagdad Bob numbers :lol:
 
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The deal doesn't require the SAA to retreat to the pre-conflict positions or relinquishing Saraqeb. The strategic M4 remains usable for SAA under the guise of joint TR-RU patrol. Do your math.
This ceasefire only acts as a face-saving deal for Erdogan's domestic politics.
 
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Losing 20% of all your drones in total for couple of dozens of old soviet tanks and vehicles and 1 air defense system (still theres a doubt whether the video is fake or not) in first 2-3 days before Syria deployed enough air defence. And all the world is laughing about your Bagdad Bob numbers :lol:
No, its actually 120% of our drone fleet. Somebody skipped math at school it seems. :rofl:
 
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