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I think its just a provocation to cause a reactionWhy you think S-400 is useless?
Turkey lost about 20 drones total including 5 Anka-S (20 mln) and more than a dozen of TB2 ($5 mln). 3 Anka-s and 3 TB2 confirmed with pics.Turkey lost 4 drones total (including 2 very cheap Bayraktars)
Meanwhile Assad/Putin lost:
* 3 jets
* 2 helicopters
* 45 tanks
* 20 BMP
* 23 self propelled artillery
* 10 MLRS
* 2 Pantsirs
* 33 trucks
* Hundreeds of soldiers
http://spioenkop.blogspot.com/2020/02/the-idlib-turkey-shoot-destruction-and.html
These are only video confirmed loses. Not bad trade for 4 drones.
Everything happened as I predicted:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/erdo...rkish-op-lines-in-idlib.652354/#post-12068759
I also warned against buying S-400 many times.
its very easy to form an opinion from safety and distance.
Turkish made a call given its position in the conflict.
. Turkey is engulfed in this conflict like Pakistan has been since the 80s. now you blame Erdogan for whatever reason but then again he is the same guy who survived a coup orchestrated by Americans. its a tough one. on one hand there are his unreliable Western allies who potentially tried to overthrow him and then there is an ex KGB Russian president who has his own cold and dark plans in the region.
I will let the Turks respond to your oversimplified bulletpoints.
Turkey lost about 20 drones total including 5 Anka-S (20 mln) and more than a dozen of TB2 ($5 mln). 3 Anka-s and 3 TB2 confirmed with pics.
Where did you see 2 Pantsirs? You mean that UAE Pantsir on MAN chassis somehow appeared in Syria in your fantasy world? Oh poor troll
yea sureNo
Erdogan was very lucky with this deal.
Turks were lucky to not lose Sanjak of Alexandretta to Syria.
Right after the syrians intercepted all the turkish missiles...Turkey lost about 20 drones total including 5 Anka-S (20 mln) and more than a dozen of TB2 ($5 mln). 3 Anka-s and 3 TB2 confirmed with pics.
Where did you see 2 Pantsirs? You mean that UAE Pantsir on MAN chassis somehow appeared in Syria in your fantasy world? Oh poor troll
then how come syria advanced and you guys agreed to thisIdlib retaliation will be remembered with first mass coordinated network centric drone strike of Turkish products against a conventional army using Russian tanks, artillery and surface to air missiles under the protection of Russian electronic attacks. Within days, Turkish Army destroyed around %15 of Asad Army while taking down 8 proven latest gen Russian SAM kill (2 of them are just revealed, there are BUK-M2s and S-300 (some source claims) as well) and 150+ tanks, hundreds of howitzers, MLRS. In Idlib offensive, Turkiye lost just 4 drones (2 Anka-S and 2 Bayraktar TB2). These drones were mostly operated on the territory controlled by Asad forces and If they shot down more, They would certainly use the wreckage for propaganda but they have nothing excluding 4 drones wreckage in their hands. Whoever claiming otherwise should prove their claims instead of spreading the gossips with buttpain.
4 are documented. Its virtually impossible to hide such loss.I agree with your stats here, but Turkey lost more than 4 drones for sure
The overwhelming majority of Turkish soldiers were killed in sneak attacks against columns before Turkey started to use its combat drones.and over 60 troops
In fact rebels made very nice advances just in 3 days: captured Nayrab, Sarakib and over dozen villages in Ghab plain and Jabl Zavia. Assadists started to hide in caves. But then suddenly strikes drastically slowed down. Massive Hezbalshaytan reinforcements were sent to frontlines.I wonder how SAA army constantly made advance if they were loosing so bad and why turkey agreed to the new term if they were faring so good.
how come those reinforcement could not be droned ?In fact rebels made very nice advances just in 3 days: captured Nayrab, Sarakib and over dozen villages in Ghab plain and Jabl Zavia. Assadists started to hide in caves. But then suddenly strikes drastically slowed down. Massive Hezbalshaytan reinforcements were sent to frontlines.
then how come syria advanced and you guys agreed to this
You can see the results. Assad had S-300PMU2 stationed in north (its virtually same as S-400), Buks, Pantirs etc etc. Turks had only MANPADS and F-16.Why you think S-400 is useless?
not our problem you guys cant commit to a cause. by the way Iran is not part of Idlib operation.