Erdogan sent Israel envoy to Turkey packing back to Israel

[Armchair]

Proud of Erdogan. Proud of Turkey. Glad to see someone with balls and morals.

I see Israels internet defense force is active on PDF. Their posts are quite laughable.

 

[hussain0216]

palestinians will never be victorious. That's why they have to come up with the only alternative they haven't tried for 70 years. Peace.



I must say, it's really good that you managed to encapsulate the palestinian intransigence that means there will never be peace.

It's good that a Pakistani in the comfort of his home in England no doubt paid for by the welfare state, is happy to play with palestinian lives.

Its taken them 70 years of struggle but they have reached population parity

The jews dont want peace they want subjugation thats why the jews dont deserve peace in return

Whats me being Pakistani have to do with anything any decent human can see the inhumanity of an apartheid jew state

Proud of Erdogan. Proud of Turkey. Glad to see someone with balls and morals.

I see Israels internet defense force is active on PDF. Their posts are quite laughable.

Makes the arab states even more pathetic

 

[T-Rex]

Its taken them 70 years of struggle but they have reached population parity

The jews dont want peace they want subjugation thats why the jews dont deserve peace in return

Whats me being Pakistani have to do with anything any decent human can see the inhumanity of an apartheid jew state



Makes the arab states even more pathetic

We have nothing to do with this conflict, we do not get paid as the zionazi puppets do but still we care enough to take the time and trouble to voice our support for the oppressed Palestinians for the sake of humanity. I know there are billions like us. On the other hand, the traitors are very few in number but they are very loud.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

The israeli occupation revolves around terrorism because there's no other way to continue the robbery.


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The zionazi existence revolve around terrorism!

reminds me of these evil children

 

[Deliorman]

It’s very funny to see how stubborn are both sides of the conflict when it comes their version of what happened two day ago and how they refuse to see the mistakes of the side they root for.

Pro-Israeli voices say that they defended their country and killed only terrorists and organized provocateurs that stormed the border and Israeli Army checkpoints (even though many of the victims were for sure civilian protesters and even small kids and in many cases Israelis used excessive force).

The Pro- Palestinians voices say that all the killed were just some peaceful protestors, kids and women who protest the occupation of their lands (even though some of the killed were part of militant groups which in many cases use molotovs and human shields consisted of women and children and they very well know that storming an Israeli border is not a good idea).

As a result populist politicians from Israel to Turkey and America will use what happened for their own political benefits... like they even care about the death of a bunch of people.

Then some wonder why peace can never be achieved in the Middle East.

 

[GBU-28]

It’s very funny to see how stubborn are both sides of the conflict when it comes their version of what happened two day ago and how they refuse to see the mistakes of the side they root for.

Pro-Israeli voices say that they defended their country and killed only terrorists and organized provocateurs that stormed the border and Israeli Army checkpoints (even though many of the victims were for sure civilian protesters and even small kids and in many cases Israelis used excessive force).

The Pro- Palestinians voices say that all the killed were just some peaceful protestors, kids and women who protest the occupation of their lands (even though some of the killed were part of militant groups which in many cases use molotovs and human shields consisted of women and children and they very well know that storming an Israeli border is not a good idea).

As a result populist politicians from Israel to Turkey and America will use what happened for their own political benefits... like they even care about the death of a bunch of people.

Then some wonder why peace can never be achieved in the Middle East.

I don't think anyone on the Israeli side has argued there were no civilians killed.

The argument is that we must understand the context in which civilians are killed, and that's Hamas and Islamic Jihad using them as cover for attack. It's a cynical use of human shield.

I agree with your general point though.

 

[airmarshal]

For a few days.

Erdogan and Turkey must decide what their future is like with Israel. This playing both sides is called hypocrisy.

 

[T-Rex]

For a few days.

Erdogan and Turkey must decide what their future is like with Israel. This playing both sides is called hypocrisy.

Turkey's association with the zionazi state was orchestrated by the past regimes of Turkey. It was the fruit of the cold war era which preceded the democratic revolution in Turkey. Erdogan is doing everything possible to come out of it without violating international norms. Turkey is not like the US, so it's wrong to expect trump like behaviour from Erdogan.

 

[Deliorman]

I don't think anyone on the Israeli side has argued there were no civilians killed.

The argument is that we must understand the context in which civilians are killed, and that's Hamas and Islamic Jihad using them as cover for attack. It's a cynical use of human shield.

I agree with your general point though.

It’s all hypocrisy and it’s all part of human nature- we are always right...

If the people I don’t like do something bad I will be the biggest moralist in the world and will not hesitate to be critical on them.
If MY people do something bad I will look for ways to make them look innocent and righteous.

Be sure that all of our Pakistani members up here who judge Israel would have been more than happy if Pakistani Security Forces shot 60 Indians in a similar situation. They would have been very happy if Palestinians shot 60 Israelis too.

Just two months ago all Turks in our forum (me included) were in a very similar situation during the operation in Afrin- YPG Kurds were using civilians, women and children as human shield and child soldiers, their terrorists were dressing like civilians and after every Turkish strike were claiming that Evil Turks killed dozens of innocent civilians. They were crying on Twitter about the Turkish Fascists and anti- Turkish and Far left westerners + many Arab leaders were crying 24/7 too.

Those same PKK terrorists were cooperating with Palestianian groups for many years- they even had training grounds in Syria and Palestine. Those same Palestinians/Arabs fought against Turks in WWI and a few decades later Allah sent them the Jews... as a prize I guess, well deserved one. Even the Palestinian flag represents the Great Arab Revolt against the Ottomans where tens of thousands of Turks died.

In the end they will tell me that I have to support them because they are my Muslim brothers... brothers that neither I neither Turks need.